Newcastle

[Stuttgart88]

I can't believe Wise is being considered for a top position at Newcastle.

I'm equally bewildered that they'd just hand out a job, any job he wants, to Shearer just because he was a good player there.

[DmanDmythDledge]

I'm equally bewildered that they'd just hand out a job, any job he wants, to Shearer just because he was a good player there.
Even more so considering how much of a baffoon he makes of himself on MOTD. When analysing Yakubu a few weeks back all he could muster was,

"He's a goalscorer, who eh, eh... will em... get you goals". Muppet of the highest order.

Also wasn't him who said at half time of England vs Croatia that the only difference between the sides was passion (or something like that)?

[Stuttgart88]

Also wasn't him who said at half time of England vs Croatia that the only difference between the sides was passion (or something like that)?He said "we've got to...eh...eh...eh...get in amongst 'em", like that was all that was missing.

[Ozymandias]

keegan is claiming that the appointment has bothing to do with him and that the press need to ask the owner about the structure of the club as wise was Ashleys appointment...Director Of Football........Newcastle is a circus at the moment

[NeilMcD]

Keegan himself would not be drawn on the subject of Wise at a Newcastle media briefing on Monday.

"Obviously, there are going to be some moves at this club, but I think the chairman (Chris Mort) has really got to come out and say what that's all about later this week."

[Lionel Ritchie]

I can't believe Wise is being considered for a top position at Newcastle.

I'm equally bewildered that they'd just hand out a job, any job he wants, to Shearer just because he was a good player there.

It's true ...he's gone. Leeds loss is Newcastles gain I suppose. Oh well life goes on.:D

[Risteard]

I don't think all Leeds fans will be crying in to their Yorkshire puddings exactly.

[Stuttgart88]

I hope John Sheridan gets the Leeds gig.

[shakermaker1982]

Wise will now be paid £1.5m a year........crazy world.

[Lionel Ritchie]

I hope John Sheridan gets the Leeds gig.

Gary McAllister to be announced as new Leeds boss later today.
:cool:

[Angus]

3 Games, no goals, 1 point.

Admittedly 2 of those games were away to the Gooners but hardly the stuff of saviours

Well done Ashley, you visionary, Wise and Keegan - the dream team - Champions League beckons

[shakermaker1982]

sack him!!!!!!!!!

[Sligo Hornet]

sack him!!!!!!!!!

a bit harsh, Dennis only joined Yesterday!;)

[Ozymandias]

is it true they are bringing in all five footers to make the players feel big

http://homepage.mac.com/philmor/general/keeganwise.jpg

[OwlsFan]

Keegan is after Thierry Henry now.

"It would be nice to break a world record. Why rule it out."

What a comment about paying a world record fee for a player whose best days are undoubtedly behind him :confused:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/02/08/sfnkeg108.xml&CMP=ILC-mostviewedbox

[OwlsFan]

I'd say the "euphoria" has well and truly died now. There's an old saying "managers should never go back" and it is true. It has seldom worked.

[gustavo]

Keegan is after Thierry Henry now.

"It would be nice to break a world record. Why rule it out."

What a comment about paying a world record fee for a player whose best days are undoubtedly behind him :confused:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/02/08/sfnkeg108.xml&CMP=ILC-mostviewedbox

Comments were taken totally out of context

[OwlsFan]

Comments were taken totally out of context

In what way?

===========================
"I would like to fetch Thierry Henry back to England," Keegan said. "He's the best player I've seen in the Premiership. When you're pitch-side, what I've seen him do to good players has been incredible.

"Sometimes you can take advantage of a situation and get what I call lucky."

Newcastle broke the world transfer record in 1996 under Keegan when Alan Shearer joined from Blackburn for £15 million and is refusing to rule out another ground-breaking deal under the auspices of the club's billionaire owner Mike Ashley.

"I'd like to do what we did last time and surprise people," Keegan added. "It would be nice to break a world record. Why rule it out. I'd like to bring players here that amaze people and we stop just talking about being a big club - but, with our actions, we show that we are.
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[gustavo]

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2008/02/08/theirry-henry-for-the-geordies/5274.html




Actually this Sky Sports quote of Kevin Keegan hoping (against hope) to lure Thierry Henry to St. James’s Park has been pulled out of context. The Newcastle United manager did indeed say this during a two-hour programme on Radio Newcastle:

I would like to fetch Thierry Henry back to England. He’s the best player I’ve seen in the Premiership When you’re pitch-side, what I’ve seen him do to good players has been incredible. Sometimes you can take advantage of a situation and get what I call lucky.
Actually the question was something like this: if you were in a fantasy world and could have any one player you fancied, who would it be?

[OwlsFan]

Keegan now says United might get relegated:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/03/03/sfnfro103.xml

That's a great morale booster for all at St. James' Park :confused:

[oldyouth]

Apart from the fact that there doesn't seem to be financial suicide at Newcastle (apart from buying a few turkeys), this is the closest comparison I've seen to how Leeds went from Champions League semi-final to playing the likes of Bournmouth. It has something to do with basic 'rot' in the club and players who couldn't be ar*sed to try and fix it.
Like at Leeds, I bet there are many players at the club who believe that, if Newcastle get relegated, their agent will get them a cushy deal elsewhere. Trust me, it's not nice when it happens

[shanman2]

Apart from the fact that there doesn't seem to be financial suicide at Newcastle (apart from buying a few turkeys), this is the closest comparison I've seen to how Leeds went from Champions League semi-final to playing the likes of Bournmouth It has something to do with basic 'rot' in the club and players who couldn't be ar*sed to try and fix it.Like at Leeds, I bet there are many players at the club who believe that, if Newcastle get relegated, their agent will get them a cushy deal elsewhere. Trust me, it's not nice when it happens



Sorry but to compare Newcastle to Leeds just cant be done. Leeds good players were all shipped off to try rid the club of death. Newcastle have enough players to be mid table if they put the right man in place to help the players do that. Selling a international center half and not replacing him in what you might call a suicide attempt when you have a back four like newcastles. The only rot at Newcastle is a clueless manager and unbelievably naive fans...
Do you honestly think professional footballers think like that?. I would think that most of them being the good pros they are would take pride in their profession.... At the end of the day having having relagation on your CV cant be good.

[oldyouth]

Shanman, 5 years ago, I would have posted the same reply as you. Do I think top flight pros care about the club they play for? In a word, no! They care about money first and, when that is secure, they think about personal glory in the form of medals, champions league etc. and not a care in the world where they get it. They even abandon playing for their country by 30 years of age!

Anelka, Kewell, Alan Smith, Ashley Cole, Sol Campbell, Rio Ferdinand, Wes Brown (hah!) the list goes on. What managers do they get it from? Redknapp, Graham, O'Leary, Erickson etc.

Sorry for the wake up call but gone are the days of the 1 club player and what it might bring him and the managers like Shankly.

Greed is not only good but it is the only game in town

[OwlsFan]

Shanman, 5 years ago, I would have posted the same reply as you. Do I think top flight pros care about the club they play for? In a word, no! They care about money first and, when that is secure, they think about personal glory in the form of medals, champions league etc. and not a care in the world where they get it. They even abandon playing for their country by 30 years of age!

Anelka, Kewell, Alan Smith, Ashley Cole, Sol Campbell, Rio Ferdinand, Wes Brown (hah!) the list goes on. What managers do they get it from? Redknapp, Graham, O'Leary, Erickson etc.

Sorry for the wake up call but gone are the days of the 1 club player and what it might bring him and the managers like Shankly.

Greed is not only good but it is the only game in town

By and large I agree with you. Players are like ordinary workers employed by a company. They like to see the company do well because it means more money for them and they'll do their best. If it starts to slide, they won't work extra hard to stop the rot but will look for a job elsewhere. I don't believe in any of this badge kissing stuff some of them do. Obviously, like in every walk of life, there are exceptions (e/g/ see Keane's reaction when Spurs won the Carling Cup) and players like to win things but most wouldn't be that bothered with whom they win them.

Fortune, fame and trophies in that order. Same for most people really.

[beautifulrock]

Shanman, 5 years ago, I would have posted the same reply as you. Do I think top flight pros care about the club they play for? In a word, no! They care about money first and, when that is secure, they think about personal glory in the form of medals, champions league etc. and not a care in the world where they get it. They even abandon playing for their country by 30 years of age!

Anelka, Kewell, Alan Smith, Ashley Cole, Sol Campbell, Rio Ferdinand, Wes Brown (hah!) the list goes on. What managers do they get it from? Redknapp, Graham, O'Leary, Erickson etc.

Sorry for the wake up call but gone are the days of the 1 club player and what it might bring him and the managers like Shankly.

Greed is not only good but it is the only game in town

"Nail on the head post" and as has been said there are, as you would, expect a few genuine exceptions.

[Angus]

None of us should deploy such hubris as to say "I told you so...." but.......

[NeilMcD]

keegan is gone.

[Pauro 76]

http://football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_4085465,00.html

Ashley is a grade A plonker though. He sits with the fans, slams down pints in an effort to be one of the 'Toon Army', pretends to be one of them....

[superfrank]

What an idiot.

Keegan was doing a good job there. They had four points from three games: Two were away to Man U and Arsenal, not a bad start to the season. Also, just look at the run they went on towards the end of the season to lift them up the table.

I wouldn't be surprised if the "Director of Football" is appointed manager now.

[bennocelt]

I feel a bit sorry for King Kev, i reckon he was conned into taking that position.
I mean having to work with D Wise must have been a kick in the balls

[Macy]

slams down pints in an effort to be one of the 'Toon Army'
Saw that on MOTD2 - has the UK law changed, because it used to be illegal to consume alcohol in view of the pitch.

[jebus]

Huge bust up regarding transfer targets yesterday by all accounts. Keegan normally threatens to walk when he's not getting his way so I'd say Ashley took him up on the offer, sad but what can you do. Expect Wise to take over as interim manager to see how they he can do while they pretend to look for a manager. If Wise makes a good job of it they'll give it to him, otherwise they'll hire someone else, keep Wise in his current position and say he was only the interim manager anyway

[DmanDmythDledge]

What an idiot.

Keegan was doing a good job there. They had four points from three games: Two were away to Man U and Arsenal, not a bad start to the season. Also, just look at the run they went on towards the end of the season to lift them up the table.
Agree that he is an idiot but Keegan's departure wasn't related to on the pitch performances.

[superfrank]

Agree that he is an idiot but Keegan's departure wasn't related to on the pitch performances.
Ashley appointed Wise. That's where the problem was (re:transfers). The blame lies with Ashley for backing and Wise for not consulting Keegan on transfers.

[gspain]

Keegan not sacked according to SSN. Statement on club website to that effect.

Just a normal day on Tyneside really. :confused:

[bennocelt]

Well i dont know but my bet on Alan Curbs been the first manager to go looks dodgy at the moment:eek:

[shakermaker1982]

do SSN ever get it right?

[Noelys Guitar]

It looks like Ashley won't pay off Keegan and so issues a statement saying Keegan is not sacked.

[Pauro 76]

Saw that on MOTD2 - has the UK law changed, because it used to be illegal to consume alcohol in view of the pitch.

Bad example to set to the fans. (And I know I can talk!) Man of the people my @rse. I know the club got a few complaints about it and why not. If that was a fan, he'd be chucked out by a steward.

[bennocelt]

Bad example to set to the fans. (And I know I can talk!) Man of the people my @rse. I know the club got a few complaints about it and why not. If that was a fan, he'd be chucked out by a steward.

there were some reports in todays papers that is was non alcoholic!!

[gspain]

there were some reports in todays papers that is was non alcoholic!!

Nobody drinks non alcoholic beer like that. This is a copout to avoid the backlash.

[drinkfeckarse]

Nobody drinks non alcoholic beer like that. This is a copout to avoid the backlash.

It goes without saying doesn't it. It's the easiest excuse to come up with. It's not like they'll be able to prove anything!

[davey]

Well i dont know but my bet on Alan Curbs been the first manager to go looks dodgy at the moment:eek:


You're in the money Benno Celt :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/7596106.stm

[Pauro 76]

You're in the money Benno Celt :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/7596106.stm

Well done Benno Celt!

[bennocelt]

Nobody drinks non alcoholic beer like that. This is a copout to avoid the backlash.


Well I didnt see the incident myself, just read about it in the press.

I was lucky with the bet, as I got it at 5/1 but it was for the first to be sacked, so to be fair to PP they paid out quick enough and i withdrew it fast enough too, just in case!!!:)

[superfrank]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7846147.stm

Big Sam did very nicely out of his stay at Newcastle. Also, it kinda shows that Ashley ahs been bothered with the club if he's been pumping in about £110m. Or he's just stupid.

[brianw82]

"It's a massive club."

[Angus]

As a West Ham and UCD fan I have experienced relegation more than once and it is not pretty.

Last season UCD deserved to go and the most recent flirtation with relegation West Ham had, we stayed up a la Tevez but probably didn't deserve it.

Newcastle deserve this and it would have been a tragedy if they have stayed up. I can empathise with the fans pain but it is somewhat reassuring and validating that a club that has been so badly managed, awful recruitment, consistently bad player management, bad signings, bad sales, bad treatment of managers, bad and bizarre hiring of managers, extremely poor performances on the pitch, consistently bad performances by players who simply didn't fancy it.

Michael Owen and Mark Viduka and Joey Barton will walk away from this but they are culpable.

Jokers. Charlatans. And the only side who deserve more to be in the championship next year is Sheffield United

[YNWA]

Newcastle got exactly what they deserved today, they've been extremely bad all season. Massive clearout needed, Collocini, Edgar, Owen, Viduka, Barton to name a few of the wasters in their squad

[MikeBassett]

David Blaine is apparently gutted at the minute. He has discovered that his 44 day record of doing f**k all in a box has been smashed by Michael Owen