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zenokelly
22/12/2007, 12:41 PM
He has just started for Spurs in their derby and he looks an outstanding prospect. I have not seen such a confident kid looking to get on the ball not afraid to take on long balls in a long time WHO CAN PLAY FOR IRELAND. The FAI need to act now to secure his services.

It tells you something if Ramos sees that he is so good that he can play in a massive derby against Arsenal. He is playing in midfield but can apparently play on the wing as well.

I say we need to pick him in the squad against Brazil. This guy looks the real deal - touch wood, hopefully not another Willo Flood. Plays a bit like Andy Reid, hopefully not as injury prone though.

come on FAI

NeilMcD
22/12/2007, 12:59 PM
How do you know he can play for Ireland.

eirebhoy
22/12/2007, 1:01 PM
How do you know he can play for Ireland.
First post here:

http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=67375&page=22

Since he has already played for England I'd rather he stuck with them tbh.

NeilMcD
22/12/2007, 1:05 PM
Could not find anywhere there where there is proof that he can play for ireland though.

olegunnar
22/12/2007, 2:04 PM
I have heard that he has an irish grandparent, and as he is u21, would be likely called up for our next u21 game, ironically V England! He hasn't played for England for 3 years, and never competitively, so can be in our next squad. Seeing as we have lost Douglas, A. Reid already, midfield options are slimming for us. If he plays weekly over next 2 months, he'd be worth calling up!!

James McCarthy should also be in Brazil squad!!

stiofain
22/12/2007, 2:41 PM
Since he has already played for England I'd rather he stuck with them tbh.

I agree. Nobody should have to be presuaded to play for Ireland.

Having said that, he was the highlight for Spurs today. Especially in the 1st half.

Casei11
22/12/2007, 2:56 PM
his granny is from wicklow,read it during the week

Bondvillain
22/12/2007, 3:21 PM
Looks great, but if he wants to play for England, he wants to play for England. All the eligibility in the world counts for nowt if he doesn't want to wear green. His prerogative.

dfx-
22/12/2007, 3:30 PM
He has just started for Spurs in their derby and he looks an outstanding prospect. I have not seen such a confident kid looking to get on the ball not afraid to take on long balls in a long time WHO CAN PLAY FOR IRELAND. The FAI need to act now to secure his services.


One game.

Rovers fan
22/12/2007, 5:44 PM
One game.

He clearly has potential as he started for spurs in their big derby and played well.

Soper
22/12/2007, 6:15 PM
Never mind about O'Hara, if we're going to start calling Scottish First Division players up, then we might as well call up I P Freely who plays for Ballynabog in the Craggy Island Senior Citizens league.

Mayo_Bhoy
22/12/2007, 6:27 PM
Looks great, but if he wants to play for England, he wants to play for England. All the eligibility in the world counts for nowt if he doesn't want to wear green. His prerogative.


Who said he wants to play for England rather than us?? Unless he is approached, we will never know.

olegunnar
22/12/2007, 7:30 PM
Never mind about O'Hara, if we're going to start calling Scottish First Division players up, then we might as well call up I P Freely who plays for Ballynabog in the Craggy Island Senior Citizens league.

I'd rather see James McC called up for a Friendly, instead of seeing a Kilbane/Carsley player in there instead. Use Friendlies to look to the future, and for that reason, we could look at James McC

Bondvillain
22/12/2007, 8:11 PM
Who said he wants to play for England rather than us?? Unless he is approached, we will never know.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_O'Hara


Jamie Darryl O'Hara (born September 25, 1986 in Dartford, England) is an English footballer who is contracted as a central midfielder for Tottenham Hotspur. He regularly features in the reserve team as well as the Under-18's.

Has played for England at Under 16, Under 17 and Under 18 levels..

Just seems like he's pretty comfortable where he is, that's all.

GavinZac
22/12/2007, 11:52 PM
I'd rather see James McC called up for a Friendly, instead of seeing a Kilbane/Carsley player in there instead. Use Friendlies to look to the future, and for that reason, we could look at James McC

An Eircom League team beat a Scottish first division team 5-1 last year in the UEFA cup. surely we should be looking a promising EL young players first?

NeilMcD
22/12/2007, 11:59 PM
I would agree with you if Barcelona, Liverpool etc were looking to sign him. Anyway I think its a bit too early for Mc Carthy to be called up to the senior squad, Let him progress through the ranks and not put too much pressure on him by calling him up to the squad.

geezer
23/12/2007, 9:15 AM
but his passing was atrocious and where was he for the 2nd arsenal goal. 1 Game and he is an international? give me joe gamble anyday

livehead1
23/12/2007, 10:41 AM
A lad who i went to uni with was doing a sports course and used to help with the youth/reserve training at spurs (probably carrying the cones abit like stan) but nevertheless i asked him what he thought of them lads( O'Hara, Dixon, Yeates)

He said 1) Yeates wouldn't make it there
2) Dixon could be the next rooney and was massively thought of
3) O'Hara ain't irish!

also i would have thought Keane would have persuaded him by now if it could be done.

zenokelly
23/12/2007, 10:45 AM
but his passing was atrocious and where was he for the 2nd arsenal goal. 1 Game and he is an international? give me joe gamble anyday

How was his passing atrocious???:confused: His passing was magnificent in the first half. Joe Gamble wouldn't make the Spurs reserves, don't mind start in their most hyped game of the season. Don't know where your getting this from.

zenokelly
23/12/2007, 10:47 AM
A lad who i went to uni with was doing a sports course and used to help with the youth/reserve training at spurs (probably carrying the cones abit like stan) but nevertheless i asked him what he thought of them lads( O'Hara, Dixon, Yeates)

He said 1) Yeates wouldn't make it there
2) Dixon could be the next rooney and was massively thought of
3) O'Hara ain't irish!

also i would have thought Keane would have persuaded him by now if it could be done.

He mightn't be Irish but according to the papers he is eligible and wants to play for us

GavinZac
23/12/2007, 10:50 AM
Joe Gamble wouldn't make the Spurs reserves, don't mind start in their most hyped game of the season.you're basing this on...

zenokelly
23/12/2007, 10:57 AM
you're basing this on...

I'm basing that on the fact that he was a Reading reject a few years ago and everybody knows that Spurs won't be signing him. How many premiership clubs have come in for him recently, certainly none the calibre of Spurs.

Go on slate me and try to prove me wrong:rolleyes:

GavinZac
23/12/2007, 11:12 AM
I'm basing that on the fact that he was a Reading reject a few years ago and everybody knows that Spurs won't be signing him. How many premiership clubs have come in for him recently, certainly none the calibre of Spurs.Well they aren't spurs, but we turned down an offer from Charlton and Reading for him this year. His status as a "reading reject" is hardly relevant, i'd imagine his performances in the champions league and for Ireland B and the seniors is probably more relevant than being yet-another-irish-lad let go during the ITV bust.

the truth is, you've never seen him play, have you? or perhaps you saw him play for 45 minutes while staunton played him as a winger and bloody second striker because he had to stick him in somewhere. you're making the old chestnut mistake of "he's only as good as his current level". not very wise, given, for example, the stories of kevin doyle and neale fenn - a player who never played at the top grade before cork city, and a player who was a spurs "starlet". Sound familiar? where are they now?


Go on slate me and try to prove me wrong:rolleyes:
cheer up guv'nor, its christmas.

eekers
23/12/2007, 11:51 AM
i watched the full game yesterday, and he looked good.

he has a decent shot on him, can take good set pieces with his left, can spray passes around (can play it short and can play a killer ball).
holds possession well and unlike the rest of spurs midfield can dictate tempo and that's why he'll become a regular under ramos.

i'm sure the new manager will be interested in him

NeilMcD
23/12/2007, 11:55 AM
Sorry how does one become a regular when that is his first start ever for Spurs in a league match.

eekers
23/12/2007, 11:58 AM
Sorry how does one become a regular when that is his first start ever for Spurs in a league match.

sorry typo i meant "he'll"

geysir
23/12/2007, 12:24 PM
He has reached his 21st birthday and he has been capped at underage level for England.
File under Kevin Nolan.

zenokelly
23/12/2007, 3:25 PM
Well they aren't spurs, but we turned down an offer from Charlton and Reading for him this year. His status as a "reading reject" is hardly relevant, i'd imagine his performances in the champions league and for Ireland B and the seniors is probably more relevant than being yet-another-irish-lad let go during the ITV bust.

the truth is, you've never seen him play, have you? or perhaps you saw him play for 45 minutes while staunton played him as a winger and bloody second striker because he had to stick him in somewhere. you're making the old chestnut mistake of "he's only as good as his current level". not very wise, given, for example, the stories of kevin doyle and neale fenn - a player who never played at the top grade before cork city, and a player who was a spurs "starlet". Sound familiar? where are they now?


cheer up guv'nor, its christmas.

Well I actually have seen him play numerous times, not in the flesh but via RTE and SETANTA. He is one of the best midfielders in the league, however, I don't think, in my opinion he would get anywhere near Ramos's side full stop.
Doyle probably wouldn't get in the side either. That's all I'm saying.

By the way Happy Christmas to you!:D

Soper
23/12/2007, 9:12 PM
Steven Reid, Andy Reid, Darren Potter to name a few wouldn't get near the Spurs team either

Lionel Ritchie
23/12/2007, 9:29 PM
worth a look if he's eligible. Who he'd prefer to play for really doesn't concern me once he gives 100%. I think there's some very wooly, romanticised thinking on that issue when it comes to our 2gens. Please don't make me picture Killer in his Irish dancing costume. The stitches won't hold.

joema
23/12/2007, 10:21 PM
Well they aren't spurs, but we turned down an offer from Charlton and Reading for him this year.

AFAIK there was no formal bid made by those two clubs, just rumours. Gamble is a quality player and should be in the Ireland squad IMO, obviously not good enough for Spurs though :ball:

GavinZac
24/12/2007, 1:48 AM
AFAIK there was no formal bid made by those two clubs, just rumours. Gamble is a quality player and should be in the Ireland squad IMO, obviously not good enough for Spurs though :ball:

Well, they were "enquiries" whereby CCFC told them to get lost.

4tothefloor
24/12/2007, 3:35 PM
O'Hara has only played 1 game.......anyone remember Dean Marney (if thats his correct name) for Spurs a couple of seasons back? People were raving about him as well and I haven't heard of him since......

tetsujin1979
24/12/2007, 4:12 PM
O'Hara has only played 1 game.......anyone remember Dean Marney (if thats his correct name) for Spurs a couple of seasons back? People were raving about him as well and I haven't heard of him since......
yeah, he was linked with Ireland by the Star, and was later shown to have Irish great-grandparents and was ineligible for the Republic. There was a discussion about it on the forum here: http://foot.ie/showthread.php?p=207159

Qwerty
24/12/2007, 5:56 PM
Which reminds me of a Spurs kid who was fought over by Charlton and Taylor, a kid called Andy Turner who plumetted through the divisions like a stone. And people raved about Stephen Kelly and all the others.

We look at a young player and assume an upward spiral until they meet they true potential. But it rarely happens. Despite the money in the game in England there is a real lack of top class coaching so clubs pay disgusting salaries to players but don't invest in coaching. Insane. There is talent and potential there that all can see and it just goes to waste.

olegunnar
26/12/2007, 2:05 PM
O'Hara got 90mins V Fulham again today

eekers
26/12/2007, 2:15 PM
interesting to see what happens when zokora and jenas come back

irishfan86
27/12/2007, 2:14 PM
interesting to see what happens when zokora and jenas come back

I think the fact that he's a total midfielder will make a difference, whereas Zokora is more defensive, and Jenas more defensive.

The fact that he's a left footer may also give him an advantage if Ramos is the kind of manager who likes to have a certain number of left footers in his side for balance.

Didn't have a nightmare against Fulham obviously, but did not look as bright as last match.

Stuttgart88
28/12/2007, 9:03 AM
He has reached his 21st birthday and he has been capped at underage level for England.
File under Kevin Nolan.That's the key isn't it?

Pity, as he's a good p[layer in a position we are desperate for someone with his attributes.

This was in the Sunday Telegraph's write up on the Arsenal v Spurs game:

Under Ramos, Spurs have started to flow and while everyone goes on about Arsenal's youngsters, they have found a little Irish gem themselves in Jamie O'Hara, 19, who has already played for England Under-18s but is now having his grandfathers checked out by the Football Association of Ireland. The FAI are not known as Find Another Irishman for nothing.

O'Hara made his debut as a substitute at Portsmouth last week and played as though he had been in the side for years. After another sub's role against Manchester City in midweek, he was given his first start here, a sign of how much faith Ramos has in him, and he promptly upstaged senior midfield men like Steed Malbranque and Kevin-Prince Boateng. Mind you, a lad who has spent most of this season on loan at Millwall was never going to be frightened of a north London derby.

geysir
28/12/2007, 12:28 PM
The Sunday Telegraph got his age wrong, he was 21 last Sept.

Stuttgart88
28/12/2007, 1:05 PM
It prompts the question of how well the likes of Garvan, McCann, Gibson, O'Toole or even Jamie McCarthy would fare in similar circumstances.

Was O'Hara even getting good reviews at Millwall?

geysir
28/12/2007, 1:24 PM
Tets has already pointed out that O'Hara wasn't even eligible in the first place so any questions are purely hypothetical.

tetsujin1979
28/12/2007, 1:32 PM
Tets has already pointed out that O'Hara wasn't even eligible in the first place so any questions are purely hypothetical.
I didn't say he wasn't eligible, I said he's already played for England at under-16, under-17 and under-19 levels so any desire he does have to play for Ireland has manifested itself recently. AFAIK there's been no solid proof that he does qualify, only newspaper reports that the FAI are investigating if he is eligible for Ireland.

geysir
28/12/2007, 1:48 PM
Tets, I did read this from your post, I thought it was coming from you rather than the Star.
"he was linked with Ireland by the Star, and was later shown to have Irish great-grandparents and was ineligible for the Republic."

tetsujin1979
28/12/2007, 3:58 PM
Tets, I did read this from your post, I thought it was coming from you rather than the Star.
"he was linked with Ireland by the Star, and was later shown to have Irish great-grandparents and was ineligible for the Republic."
That was Dean Marney

EalingGreen
28/12/2007, 6:40 PM
O'Hara was 21 in September - DOB 25/09/86.

geezer
01/01/2008, 6:38 PM
he was like a rabbit caught in the headlights again at a set piece agiainst villa this evening. Dont know much about the lad other than he has cousins in mayo but still has a lot to learn in the game

NeilMcD
01/01/2008, 6:40 PM
You could hardly blame him for that it was a mismatch of the highest order. Blame Ramos or the experienced players for that.

geezer
01/01/2008, 6:45 PM
he was left standing the exact same way stuck to the ground when bendtner scored for arsenal. It was a carbon copy of his error against arsenal.

Maroon 7
01/01/2008, 7:07 PM
Crazy for him to be picking up Laursen anyway who towers over him.