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KK07
15/12/2007, 3:47 PM
Im sure everybody knows at this stage but its what most people on here have wanted for a while now, so what do people think? Is it the right decision and who do you think will be the new manager? After losing Kevin Waters are more players likely to follow McGee and Waters out fo Limerick37 FC and if so who do you think will leave. In my opinion its been a bad week for Limerick37 on a PR side of things. Is the future bright or are things downhill from now on? We all need to make a big effort for next season in order to encourage and attract more fans down to Jackman Park. For a city of Limericks size and the amount of interest in soccer Limerick37 has the potential to be a big success but only if crowds + finances improve for next season. :ball:

joeSoap
16/12/2007, 6:33 PM
Mike Kerleys back in the saddle.

Tis-smeee
16/12/2007, 7:07 PM
God help yee , i heard rennie was in the running up there

Unreal Madrid
16/12/2007, 10:59 PM
Mike Kerleys back in the saddle.

Is this all that we have? Anyone with a heartbeat could see the McGee saga was going to end sooner rather than later and all we get is good old Mike. Sound bloke, did'nt work last time and dont mention Waterford :eek: The club made a good decision to pick someone from outside (ya, I know he was a muppet)to try to change the fortunes so why now go back. Noel had success the first time and look how his 2nd stint ended. Do you really think it will be different this time. I hope he brings TREV with him :o

gael353
16/12/2007, 11:14 PM
Is this all that we have? Anyone with a heartbeat could see the McGee saga was going to end sooner rather than later and all we get is good old Mike. Sound bloke, did'nt work last time and dont mention Waterford :eek: The club made a good decision to pick someone from outside (ya, I know he was a muppet)to try to change the fortunes so why now go back. Noel had success the first time and look how his 2nd stint ended. Do you really think it will be different this time. I hope he brings TREV with him :o


no dont think trev is going with him but come here noel...success the first time? last, third last? Kerley 4th and last with a junior team.

redron
17/12/2007, 12:12 AM
Is this all that we have? Anyone with a heartbeat could see the McGee saga was going to end sooner rather than later and all we get is good old Mike. Sound bloke, did'nt work last time and dont mention Waterford :eek: The club made a good decision to pick someone from outside (ya, I know he was a muppet)to try to change the fortunes so why now go back. Noel had success the first time and look how his 2nd stint ended. Do you really think it will be different this time. I hope he brings TREV with him :o

Personally, I'm happy enough with Kerley in charge for the time being. He got us to the play-offs in 2003. I know we finished bottom in 2004, but that was hardly his fault. He had no money to build a squad, so most of the better players were snapped up by other clubs with more money to spend. For those who were actually at a few games that season, think of the number of times Kerley had to play himself, or play Fyffe outfield! The squad was the smallest in the league -- only 14 or 15 or something like that.
Given the budgetary constraints that the club is working under (i.e. income is not huge), it's not surprising that the net fell so close to home when fishing for a new manager.
So I have no problem with giving Kerley a chance.

As for Ski? I think someone said something about him not being fit to manage adults. Given his regular use of insults and bullying as methods to try to motivate his players, I'd keep him well away from any underage team. Some junior players may tolerate that sort of abuse, but senior players shouldn't be expected to and it would probably be damaging to kids.

sligoman
17/12/2007, 12:13 AM
Paul McGee likes applying for jobs...wouldn't surprise me if he applied again under his disguise name of 'Ski' McGee:D

Ash
17/12/2007, 6:41 AM
Paul McGee likes applying for jobs...wouldn't surprise me if he applied again under his disguise name of 'Ski' McGee:D

Athlone hotseat still apparently vacant, although like the FAI theres rumours
it's been offereded already, but with the mid season rumours of a Ski and Paugie
management combo I wonder are they now back in the frame?

gspain
17/12/2007, 9:06 AM
I'd gladly finish last for a couple of seaosns if we were putting proper infrastructure in place. Proper facilities are needed and then spend money on the team.

The crowds wil lcome and the potential is there for a successful football team in the city. There is no competition as in we won't lose fans to cork and Galway. there is no point spending big money to come 4th.

Ash
17/12/2007, 9:41 AM
...there is no point spending big money to come 4th.

Better than spending big money and finishing 6th :o

L37Ultra
17/12/2007, 10:40 AM
Paul McGee likes applying for jobs...wouldn't surprise me if he applied again under his disguise name of 'Ski' McGee:D


I thought he was a living legend round your part of the woods :D
http://archives.tcm.ie/westernpeople/2004/04/21/story19313.asp

gspain
17/12/2007, 11:06 AM
Better than spending big money and finishing 6th :o


At least you have a decent stadium. Well a quarter of one anyway.

Ash
17/12/2007, 12:02 PM
At least you have a decent stadium. Well a quarter of one anyway.

;)

If Roddy gets the job we can get him to help finish off the other stands :p

sligoman
17/12/2007, 4:01 PM
it's been offereded already, but with the mid season rumours of a Ski and Paugie management combo I wonder are they now back in the frame?That'd be Padraig Moran is it?:confused:

the dazzler
17/12/2007, 4:07 PM
Mike Kerleys back in the saddle.

kerley was 2nd choice heard up at the pike game yesterday that the limerick oscar traynor manager cant think of hes name was offered the job

the hoops
17/12/2007, 4:10 PM
might well be true mike is a mate of mine hes back on 450e a week mate or no mate how can lim37 afford this well ger how come and this is a fact:mad:

L37Ultra
17/12/2007, 4:47 PM
might well be true mike is a mate of mine hes back on 450e a week mate or no mate how can lim37 afford this well ger how come and this is a fact:mad:


You said it might be true, then you say its a fact.. :rolleyes: I cant see him getting that much to be honest. The managers job has not been filled yet.

L37Ultra
17/12/2007, 4:50 PM
the limerick oscar traynor manager cant think of hes name was offered the job


Aidan Ryan isnt it? He played with Limerick before and was a coach under Noel O Connor. We need a local manager, not sure if he would be the right choice though!! Can SLK set up a poll, on who people think should be the next manager. :D

Lim till i die
17/12/2007, 5:21 PM
the limerick oscar traynor manager cant think of hes name was offered the job

Aidan Ryan.

And I doubt it very much.


might well be true

and this is a fact

Sweet Jesus above in heaven :D

"Hey, you guys" :D


hes back on 450e a week

how can lim37 afford this

It's significantly less banannas then we were giving the chimp McGee............

Besides if all comes to all we just wont pay him every week :p

rambler14
17/12/2007, 10:53 PM
Rumour is that Ski is on his way to Cobh to help us get rid of our long ball game:D
So we can play like Lim 37 in the PREMIER DIVISION next year.:rolleyes:

Unreal Madrid
18/12/2007, 12:04 AM
[QUOTE=redron;839886]Personally, I'm happy enough with Kerley in charge for the time being. He got us to the play-offs in 2003. I know we finished bottom in 2004, but that was hardly his fault. He had no money to build a squad, so most of the better players were snapped up by other clubs with more money to spend. For those who were actually at a few games that season, think of the number of times Kerley had to play himself, or play Fyffe outfield! The squad was the smallest in the league -- only 14 or 15 or something like that.
Given the budgetary constraints that the club is working under (i.e. income is not huge), it's not surprising that the net fell so close to home when fishing for a new manager.
So I have no problem with giving Kerley a chance.

Kerley came last with no money. Then he went to Waterford (again very small budget) and had a nightmare few months (no wins in many games). Limerick by all accounts will have, again, a very small budget. Why would you want Kerley when he has twice shown he cant do the job with no money. If the club were in a position to get a few quality players (like they had in his play off year) fair enough. Sound bloke who you would want to see do well but this is a case of wrong club at the wrong time.

lfc at heart
18/12/2007, 12:33 PM
Aiden Ryan would be a great choice as a manager, his history with Junior/local soccer is excellent, well respected, but it doesnt matter who gets the job as ye will be sick of him by this time next year, going on pass experiences

jebus
18/12/2007, 12:58 PM
Aiden Ryan would be a great choice as a manager, his history with Junior/local soccer is excellent, well respected, but it doesnt matter who gets the job as ye will be sick of him by this time next year, going on pass experiences

What past experiences? Us not wanting NOC back in the first place, and then giving hi deserved criticism when he failed miserably? Or us having a problem with McGee's sideline antics and his lack of interest in anything other than himself?

waylanderj
18/12/2007, 5:34 PM
i thought Ryan was poor at ST micheals
as for his assistant there were is he now?:D

bellavistaman
18/12/2007, 6:28 PM
congatulations on gettin rid of him lads, time for ye to move forward now, never despized a manager so much, possibly the most productive thing that happened since l37 was formed.

the hoops
18/12/2007, 6:49 PM
mike kerley has the job 450e a week no wonder lim37 are broke and yes aidan turned down the job

the hoops
18/12/2007, 6:50 PM
You said it might be true, then you say its a fact.. :rolleyes: I cant see him getting that much to be honest. The managers job has not been filled yet.

said it might be true kerley was 2nd choice

Lim till i die
18/12/2007, 8:16 PM
Kerley came last with no money. Then he went to Waterford (again very small budget) and had a nightmare few months (no wins in many games). Limerick by all accounts will have, again, a very small budget. Why would you want Kerley when he has twice shown he cant do the job with no money. If the club were in a position to get a few quality players (like they had in his play off year) fair enough. Sound bloke who you would want to see do well but this is a case of wrong club at the wrong time.

That's a fair enough assesment but:

I genuinely don't think we will be quite as chronic squad wise this year as we were the 2nd season in Pike.

No one is expecting a challenge for the league this season. It'll be Waterford, Shels and Dundalk duking it out.


mike kerley has the job 450e a week no wonder lim37

As I said above if that figure is true it's significantly less than that goon was on.

Or what NOC was on under Drew for that matter.

How much do you think a LoI manager should be paid :rolleyes:


yes aidan turned down the job

I heard different.

And since dazzler was the original source of the Aidan Ryan thing we're just going to have to assume it's a lie.


it doesnt matter who gets the job as ye will be sick of him by this time next year, going on pass experiences

Jesus, can you read or is the sand in your vagina too itchy?? :rolleyes:

the dazzler
18/12/2007, 9:39 PM
That's a fair enough assesment but:

I genuinely don't think we will be quite as chronic squad wise this year as we were the 2nd season in Pike.

No one is expecting a challenge for the league this season. It'll be Waterford, Shels and Dundalk duking it out.



As I said above if that figure is true it's significantly less than that goon was on.

Or what NOC was on under Drew for that matter.

How much do you think a LoI manager should be paid :rolleyes:



I heard different.

And since dazzler was the original source of the Aidan Ryan thing we're just going to have to assume it's a lie.



Jesus, can you read or is the sand in your vagina too itchy?? :rolleyes:

believe what you want the man will tell you himself if you ask him

the hoops
18/12/2007, 9:41 PM
hate backing up the dazzler but its true aidan ryan was asked before mike turned it down as ski was still in the job mike told me himself bad form out of the ceo:mad:

Fairkop
18/12/2007, 10:40 PM
shouldn,t surprise anyone if a candidate turned the job down.....who would pay him.i wasn a fan of skee but his treatment has been disgraceful,finished in 4th,not paid in months,then gets sacked.our CEO conduct needs to be seriously scrutinised and bar LTID i dont see too many questioning that...you are very quiet gael on this,kerley was appointed last week a full week b4 skee was shafted,at least one other person was approached about the job also...this is shocking carry on and very unprofessional.the job will suit kerley as he cant get a job anywhere else,small and all as the budget wll be he will make sure he,s in for his share and with whats left pay the U21s which is all the rest will pay.yes he did well his 1st year with the team he inherited from noc,after that its 4 wins in 51 el games....oh and he,s a nice guy which pleases the cartel of gael and co.btw noc won the LC in his 1st season with a ...junior team...how that can be dismissed given there are only 4 trophies to win is beyond me and i,m not his greatest fan either.

gael353
18/12/2007, 11:13 PM
shouldn,t surprise anyone if a candidate turned the job down.....who would pay him.i wasn a fan of skee but his treatment has been disgraceful,finished in 4th,not paid in months,then gets sacked.our CEO conduct needs to be seriously scrutinised and bar LTID i dont see too many questioning that...you are very quiet gael on this,kerley was appointed last week a full week b4 skee was shafted,at least one other person was approached about the job also...this is shocking carry on and very unprofessional.the job will suit kerley as he cant get a job anywhere else,small and all as the budget wll be he will make sure he,s in for his share and with whats left pay the U21s which is all the rest will pay.yes he did well his 1st year with the team he inherited from noc,after that its 4 wins in 51 el games....oh and he,s a nice guy which pleases the cartel of gael and co.btw noc won the LC in his 1st season with a ...junior team...how that can be dismissed given there are only 4 trophies to win is beyond me and i,m not his greatest fan either.


ehhh am i missing something here? is my name the only one you can remember or you just singelling me out? "im very quite" about the way ski was treated???? am i the spoksman for limerick 37 or something? i know some people value my imput but really im flattered :o a 51 game league season seems a bit long too in my opinion and maybe his team was tired :D as for the league cup winning "junior side", fyffe, Poll, Browne, Purcell, Finucane, O'Donaghue, White, Molan, Donnallan, McCarthy, Stokes...O'Sullivan and one or two others....ok ill correct myself, Kerleys second year side was a side lesser in quality then a junior side. Oh and as for the cost of Kerley or whatever new manager is appointed, i havent a clue how much hes paid but he is the holder of an "A" coaching badge which is whats required to manage in the LOI with some "A" coaches demanding upto €1200 per week as there are so few of them. Kinda a cartel of them floating around for the last few years thats why the same names pop up all the time for the LOI club jobs.

sean
19/12/2007, 12:33 AM
how much does kerley have to spend anyway??

redron
19/12/2007, 12:57 AM
mike kerley has the job 450e a week no wonder lim37 are broke

E450 is not a lot of money!

How many hours a week do you think a League of Ireland First Division manager works?
What skills or qualifications are you paying for when you hire one? (whether that be directly employed or contracted as a consultant)For those who have never had a job in their lives, just to let you know, the average industrial wage in june 2007 (the latest figure I'm aware of) was over E625 per week. Given that a League of Ireland manager is a skilled job requiring several qualifications, I'd say anything much less than that represents very good value for money.
And in terms of the cost of living in Ireland, E625 per week is not a lot of money either!

Lim till i die
19/12/2007, 2:48 PM
i wasn a fan of skee but his treatment has been disgraceful,finished in 4th,not paid in months,then gets sacked..

In fairness I think any sympathy anyone would feel for Ski should be tempered by his disgraceful carry on all year.

But:


kerley was appointed last week a full week b4 skee was shafted,at least one other person was approached about the job also...this is shocking carry on and very unprofessional.

Although shafted is ridiculously strong this is a valid point.

The clubs handling of this has been pathetic IMO.

The time to sack Ski was after the Kildare away game and the €2000 fine which was incrued as a result.

The club could have sacked him for gross misconduct and released a statement stating the need for professionalism within the club moving forward etc etc.

Dare I say it the club could have came out of it looking well.

Instead you have this pathetic small time cloak and dagger nonsense which looks awful, reeks of the past and above all should have been utterly, utterly unnecessary if the CEO was doing his job properly.

Also, hawking the job around to other managers while we still had one is ridiculous carry on.


our CEO conduct needs to be seriously scrutinised and bar LTID i dont see too many questioning that

Just to clarify I'm by no means the sole dissenting voice within the support.

I just don't want it to look like I've some sort of personal vendetta against Finnin because this is not the case.

I just always try to call things like I see them.


oh and he,s a nice guy which pleases the cartel of gael and co.btw noc won the LC in his 1st season with a ...junior team...how that can be dismissed given there are only 4 trophies to win is beyond me

Just on this, my own view anyway and AFAIK the view of the lads I go to matches with is that Kerley is preferable to O'Connor for the style of football he at least has the team attempting to play.

On a personal level I wouldn't have had much dealings with either and when I have I've found them both to be grand so Mikes "niceness" definitely wouldn't swing it as far as I'm concerned.

greenandwhite
19/12/2007, 4:54 PM
hate backing up the dazzler but its true aidan ryan was asked before mike turned it down as ski was still in the job mike told me himself bad form out of the ceo:mad:


god your some "friend" of kerleys if he confides in you and you splatter it all over the web well unlike you i am not friendly with kerley but i am friendly with a board member and he wouldnt confirm that kerley was the manager but did confirm that ryan was NOT approached so why not direct questions to the club or the board and you will get answers i was told there was a meeting tonight so we might know after that and it would have been stupid to have got rid of a manager without having a possible replacement in mind easy know some of ye have never been involved in buisness or football management

Lim till i die
19/12/2007, 5:04 PM
but i am friendly with a board member

Who's on the board out of curiosity??

greenandwhite
19/12/2007, 5:19 PM
Who's on the board out of curiosity??

sure arent you the oricle

from what i know its christy odwyer gerry mc cormack noel malone p cusack joe sweeney ann mullins a woman called moore darrin hehir and finnan i could be wrong but i think the only one without a vote is finnan or so iv been told and i think one of them is from the supporters

Lim till i die
19/12/2007, 5:22 PM
from what i know its christy odwyer gerry mc cormack noel malone p cusack joe sweeney ann mullins a woman called moore darrin hehir and finnan i could be wrong but i think the only one without a vote is finnan or so iv been told and i think one of them is from the supporters

Severe lack of investment there :o

FYI the two in bold are SC (non voting AFAIK) and small shareholders reps respectively.

Finnin only has casting vot in event of a tie isn't it??

greenandwhite
19/12/2007, 5:25 PM
Severe lack of investment there :o

FYI the two in bold are SC (non voting AFAIK) and small shareholders reps respectively.

Finnin only has casting vot in event of a tie isn't it??

he has no vote at all tie or no tie the chairman has a casting vote in a tie and thats odwyer

Lim till i die
19/12/2007, 5:26 PM
he has no vote at all tie or no tie the chairman has a casting vote in a tie and thats odwyer

Much Obliged.

Didn't know that. :ball:

greenandwhite
19/12/2007, 5:27 PM
Severe lack of investment there :o

FYI the two in bold are SC (non voting AFAIK) and small shareholders reps respectively.

Finnin only has casting vot in event of a tie isn't it??

just looked at the stuff sent to the clubs at the start the ceo has no vote on the board and the sc rep has no vote but everyone else has

gael353
19/12/2007, 10:39 PM
just looked at the stuff sent to the clubs at the start the ceo has no vote on the board and the sc rep has no vote but everyone else has

and the SC recently bought shares so they now rep small shareholders and have now two seats on the board with one having a vote!