Breakfast in the Shelbourne

[Drumcondra 69er]

You behave yourself, you won't find it via google or on wikipedia. :D

Tell us then, I'm stumpted here!

[Serb]

According the the FAI site (http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2591), there were no 2-0 losses of official games in 1979. The nearest 2-0 losses in official games were either a World Cup Qualifier in 1976 v France or in a European Championship Qualifier in 1980 v England. I doubt it's either of those.

Unless it was some postponed game or something like that, there doesn't seem to be a record of it anywhere. Do you have a source to back this up?

[soccerc]

According the the FAI site (http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2591), there were no 2-0 losses of official games in 1979. The nearest 2-0 losses in official games were either a World Cup Qualifier in 1976 v France or in a European Championship Qualifier in 1980 v England. I doubt it's either of those.

Unless it was some postponed game or something like that, there doesn't seem to be a record of it anywhere. Do you have a source to back this up?

It was an official game.

Source? I have the programme and a cap

[Noelys Guitar]

Wasn't it a B type international at Dalymount?

[soccerc]

Was'nt it a B type international at Dalymount?

Game was not played in Dalymount nor was it a B international.


I'll sit back now until someone comes up with the answer. :p

[Serb]

It was an official game.

Source? I have the programme and a cap


I guess my other question then is was it the full Irish team (not a B / underage team etc)?

[soccerc]

I guess my other question then is was it the full Irish team (not a B / underage team etc)?

Read all the posts!

[Serb]

Read all the posts!

Yeah, I did, but something's not adding up :P Sounds like it was a testimonial game or something.

[dcfc_1928]

He thought you were "too old" to be at the game.

A schoolboy international?

[Noelys Guitar]

No Hockey as FAI ok. Was it Ireland amateurs v England amateurs?

[RogerMilla]

i like the fact that soccerc has an actual cap to back it up ! surely someone else must have been at the game he mentions ?? or did no one turn up in protest of Dunphy being appointed manager !!

[Drumcondra 69er]

Was it an amatuer/LOI international side? You know those league selections they used to do?

[soccerc]

Was it a Hockey match? The Ireland Hockey team?

Again,Read the posts, surprised at you NG, don't think the FAI award caps fpr hockey though they were awarded when we werehockeyed in Cyprus :D

[Serb]

Well, I'm not going to guess it anyway, I wasn't even born when the game was played!

[jmurphyc]

I've been scrawling through the Irish Times archives and can't seem to come up with anything. Put us out of our misery.

[Desyf]

Soccerc, I'm sure I've just read a book with the answer to your little teaser in one of the chapters, the book that Dodgykeeper lent me.

I won't spoil it though....

[fergalr]

Soccerc - is there a Paddy Mulligan connection to this?

[gspain]

Another guess from the depths of somewhere.

We played a New Zealand XI back in 1979 I think. no idea of the result. I am still looking for the programme too soccerc if this is right.

[EalingGreen]

Oct 12, Dublin, Richmond Road
League of Ireland 2-1 New Zealand
(Hillary Carlisle, Eamon Greig - Brian Turner)
League of Ireland:
n/a
New Zealand:
Richard Wilson, Tony Sibley [c], Sam Malcolmson, Robert Almond, Adrian Elrick,
Brian Turner, Steve Sumner, Glen Adam, Clive Campbell, Keith Nelson, Johan Verweij.
Coach: John Adshead.
Referee:
J Carpenter (Ireland).

The above was part of a European Tour being undertaken by "The All Whites" in 1979, and followed a previous match up in Belfast, which I attended:

Oct 10, Belfast, The Oval
Irish FA XI 2-0 New Zealand
(C McCurdy, B Quinn)
Irish FA XI:
R McDonald, R McCreery, R Cromie, R Walsh, P Rafferty, M Donaghy, J Sloan,
B Quinn, C McCurdy, T Armstrong (P McCusker), W Feeney.
Coach: n/a
New Zealand:
Richard Wilson, Tony Sibley [c], Glen Adam, Robert Almond, Adrian Elrick,
Chris Turner (John McDermid), Steve Sumner, David Bright, Keith Nelson,
Brian Turner (Sam Malcolmson), Johan Verweij (Shane Rufer).
Coach: John Adshead.
Referee:
O'Donnelly (Nth Ireland).

That NZ team was unquestionably the worst Senior International team I've ever seen. The IFA XI - all Irish League - actually had some good players and how they didn't tonk them by several goals I don't know.

(I also got to see the NZ Rugby team play in Ireland the same year iirc. They were rather better at their code!)

[Not Brazil]

Irish FA XI:
R McDonald, R McCreery, R Cromie, R Walsh, P Rafferty, M Donaghy, J Sloan,
B Quinn, C McCurdy, T Armstrong (P McCusker), W Feeney.


Jesus EG - there were some hallions in that lineout!:eek::eek::eek:

They'd have given the NZ Rugby team a good - erm - "workout".

[lopez]

Argentina away under the guise of the League of Ireland? That was 1979 or 1980. However it was Argentina that thought it was official.

[gspain]

Argentina away under the guise of the League of Ireland? That was 1979 or 1980. However it was Argentina that thought it was official.

that was 1980 in Argentina - we lost 3-1.

Thanks for the New Zealand details EG. Obviously another wrong answer then.

[Noelys Guitar]

Soccerc was Dunphy non-playing manager or player-manager?

[soccerc]

Soccerc was Dunphy non-playing manager or player-manager?

non playing

[gspain]

Was it a universities team?

[soccerc]

Was it a universities team?

NO, think of it

[lopez]

that was 1980 in Argentina - we lost 3-1.
The same result that the senior team lost at home?

Soccerc, time for more clues or put us out of our misery?

[Drumcondra 69er]

So it wasn't:

Seniors
Olympic
LOI selection/ Amatuer
Underage
Universities
Schoolboy

Someone put me out of my misery and tell me!!

[geysir]

You're taking it very serious Drums.

Why would Dunphy try to claim Soccerc was too young to be at the game if it was 1979.
Are you that young Soccerc?

[soccerc]

You're taking it very serious Drums.

Why would Dunphy try to claim Soccerc was too young to be at the game if it was 1979.
Are you that young Soccerc?

No, I am that old. I was 17 at the time. Someone has jumped the gun by saying I said it wasn't one of these:


Seniors
Olympic
LOI selection/ Amatuer
Underage
Universities
Schoolboy

I didn't , but it is close to but no quite one of the above :D

[a.a.d]

Right then Soccerc

Seniors = Can't be this as you have said you havea cap from it
Olympic = Don't think football was an olympic sport at the time so that rules this out
LOI selection/ Amatuer = I'm ruling this out as well/don't think we could have got you to stop telling us about this day
Underage = Could be this
Universities = Don't think it would be this one unless you went to Uni at a young age and went straight into one of the teams
Schoolboy = You would have had one year left at schoolboy age so I would recon this is the one

So by my logic (which is and never has been all that great) I recon it was a schollboys match. - you wern't part of the DDSL team that won the Kennedy cup in 1979 were you?

[gspain]

Was it a women's match? Sorry if that was mentioned already.

BTW just to correct the previous post we did play Olympic qualifiers then and lost to Norway but soccerc has ruled them out.

[eekers]

soccerc when u say you have a cap, does that mean you actually won the cap or that you just happen to have the actual 'cap' from it in your possession?

[Kingdom]

soccerc when u say you have a cap, does that mean you actually won the cap or that you just happen to have the actual 'cap' from it in your possession?

Thats what I thought. And I thought that he said that it was a senior match, and that while caps were awarded for the match, it wasn't recognised as such.
Ps I haven't a clue.

[soccerc]

Thats what I thought. And I thought that he said that it was a senior match, and that while caps were awarded for the match, it wasn't recognised as such.
Ps I haven't a clue.


WTF?, I have said nothing of the sort. :D

[fergalr]

Didn't see a reply to my earlier question so I'll come right out with it. Was it the Paddy Mulligan testimonial when an Ireland 11 played Forest at Dalier? The score fits (0-2) but it was 1980 I think not 79.

[soccerc]

Didn't see a reply to my earlier question so I'll come right out with it. Was it the Paddy Mulligan testimonial when an Ireland 11 played Forest at Dalier? The score fits (0-2) but it was 1980 I think not 79.

LOL, didn't answer it as the game was in 1979 and not at Dalymount

[Kingdom]

So Dunphy managed a Republic of Ireland International Irish team in 1979, that was beaten 2-0, which was a Senior Mens match, played in Dublin, but not in Dalymount, which the FAI awarded Caps for, which soccerc has in his possession and also the programme for the corresponding game.
Was it a testimonial game?

[soccerc]

So Dunphy managed a Republic of Ireland International Irish team in 1979, that was beaten 2-0, which was a Senior Mens match, played in Dublin, but not in Dalymount, which the FAI awarded Caps for, which soccerc has in his possession and also the programme for the corresponding game.
Was it a testimonial game?

Where did I say it was a senior game? No it was not a testimonial.

[Kingdom]

Where did I say it was a senior game? No it was not a testimonial.

Ok. You said its not a Full International, a Ladies team or an Underage game. Which only leaves an Amateur team, B team, Intermediate or Junior team.
You said it was an Official ROI team, which rules out representatives, and you've discounted testimonials.

Is all this correct ? :D

[soccerc]

Ok. You said its not a Full International, a Ladies team or an Underage game. Which only leaves an Amateur team, B team, Intermediate or Junior team.
You said it was an Official ROI team, which rules out representatives, and you've discounted testimonials.

Is all this correct ? :D

Finally, someone has factually read my replies. You are now on the right track

Hint: The Intermediate and Amateur sides are only a recent phenomena. :D

[Drumcondra 69er]

Finally, someone has factually read my replies. You are now on the right track

Hint: The Intermediate and Amateur sides are only a recent phenomena. :D

No B internationals between 1960 and 1990 as far as I'm aware bar one unofficial one against England in 1971 so it has to be Juniors.

[Noelys Guitar]

No B internationals between 1960 and 1990 as far as I'm aware bar one unofficial one against England in 1971 so it has to be Juniors.

Not sure if this counts but I was at a game between Ireland(senior team) v Germany B in Dalymount. We won 1-0. Not 1979 though. So it must have been a LOI selection that Dunphy was managing. And the FAI did give out caps for LOI games.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Not sure if this counts but I was at a game between Ireland(senior team) v Germany B in Dalymount. We won 1-0. Not 1979 though. So it must have been a LOI selection that Dunphy was managing. And the FAI did give out caps for LOI games.


I said LOI selection on page 4, will be well narked if that's what it is! :D

[gspain]

Junior Team probably v Scotland then. We definitely played Scotland at home in 1979. If I had to guess at a venue then Iveagh Grounds in Crumlin but maybe Richmond Park.

[gspain]

OK I've cheated - checked the programme.

20th October 1979 Ireland v Scotland Junior Intl Iveagh Grounds Crumlin.

Manager E. Dunphy.

[soccerc]

OK I've cheated - checked the programme.

20th October 1979 Ireland v Scotland Junior Intl Iveagh Grounds Crumlin.

Manager E. Dunphy.


LOL, about bloody time Gary

So Dunphy has international management experience but not one player, apart from the 'keeper was played in their normal position that day.

[Scram]

OK I've cheated - checked the programme.

20th October 1979 Ireland v Scotland Junior Intl Iveagh Grounds Crumlin.

Manager E. Dunphy.



Quote from Dunphy in 1979:

journalist "we're not winning the vital matches"

Dunphy: "we've never been playing in the vital matches before"