Kenny Dalglish

[Den Perry]

Typical irish attutide, sickens me. Are you an FAI employee by any chance....Sure why dont we pull out of international football, sure whats the point embarrassing ourselves!

What prestige is there managing FC Red Bull Salzburg see Trapattoni.
What prestige is there managing Australia/Russia see Guus Hiddink
...need i go on?

hear hear

[Noelys Guitar]

From todays Examiner
http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=sport-qqqm=sport-qqqa=sport-qqqid=51758-qqqx=1.asp

[mypost]

Dalglish is revered at Anfield, and is always welcome back. 3 League titles in 5 seasons, 2 FA Cups, a double in his first season as a boss. In just 4 years at Blackburn, he won promotion, the league, and finished runner-up. At Newcastle, he finished runner-up in the league and cup in 18 months, got them into the CL and UEFA Cup too in that time. The man is a proven winner, and would be a great choice.

But no, the masses don't want him, they'd rather have wasters such as Jewell/Sanchez/Hodgson and co instead. People with "rent-a-club boss", "golddiggers", and/or "relegation candidates" written all over their faces.

But this is Ireland. We don't want to have too high expectations. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Noelys Guitar]

I expect Daglish to be odds on favourite early this morning as punters read their newspapers. Yet according to the Indo Daglish has not been interviewed. What the papers are not reporting is the steady flow of money being wagered on Steve Coppell the candidate we need.

[mypost]

Let them wager it.

There is zero chance of appointing a current club manager. If the English couldn't, we certainly couldn't.

[irishfan86]

Let them wager it.

There is zero chance of appointing a current club manager. If the English couldn't, we certainly couldn't.

If you honestly think the English couldn't, I don't know what to say to you.

It was a case of why hire a club manager when you can hire a better manager who's out of work?

Cappello wasn't sacked from Real Madrid because he was ****, he was sacked because he won the league using an ugly style of play.

[geysir]

I expect Daglish to be odds on favourite early this morning as punters read their newspapers. Yet according to the Indo Daglish has not been interviewed.
It would be foolish to gamble at these odds.
The Indo report though that it is believed contact has been made with Houghton, I could easily believe he is the source of any leaks.

Dalglish is the candidate with the most successfull cv at club level. It is actually outstanding apart from the Celtic stint. If he wanted the job and believed he could do it, then it would be an interesting interview.

[drummerboy]

I would rather Venables than Dagleish. At least Venners has has recent experience, it must be 10 years since King Kenny done anything in football. Another reason I don't want him is his close association with Pat Devlin.

[reder]

It all just bookies nonsense. I reckon Kenny should hold his horses. Might be a vacancy in L4 pretty soon with the knee-jerk reaction thats going on this morning. At least he would get the respect he deserves from all the footballing folk there.

[reder]

I would rather Venables than Dagleish. At least Venners has has recent experience, it must be 10 years since King Kenny done anything in football. Another reason I don't want him is his close association with Pat Devlin.

Your point would be that little bit more convincing if you could spell his name!

[drummerboy]

The return of the spelling police.

[Deckydee]

Yes, I got the spelling wrong as well at the beginning, but its difficult!! :o

Anyhoe, great to see that some of you like King Kenny.

Whether you like it or not, he is the best of a bad bunch!!

His awards alone are fantastic!

Managerial honours

Liverpool

Winners
1985/86 League Championship (Level 1)
1985/86 FA Cup
1986/87 Charity Shield Shared
1987/88 League Championship (Level 1)
1988/89 Charity Shield
1988/89 FA Cup
1989/90 Charity Shield
1989/90 League Championship (Level 1)
1990/91 Charity Shield Shared

Runner up
1986/87 League Cup
1986/87 League Championship (Level 1)
1987/88 FA Cup
1988/89 League Championship (Level 1)
1990/91 League Championship (Level 1)

Blackburn Rovers

Winners
1991/92 Second Division Play Off (Level 2)
1994/95 FA Premier League (Level 1)

Runner Up
1993/94 FA Premier League (Level 1)
1994/95 Charity Shield

Newcastle United
Runner Up
1996/97 FA Premier League (Level 1)
1997/98 FA Cup

Celtic

Winners
1999/00 Scottish League Cup
Runner Up
1999/00 Scottish Premier League (Level 1)

Awards
1985/86 Manager of the year award
1987/88 Manager of the year award
1989/90 Manager of the year award
1996/97 Manager of the year award

[Jerry The Saint]

Newcastle United
Runner Up
1996/97 FA Premier League (Level 1)
1997/98 FA Cup


Often overlooked but still 10 years since Dalglish won anything and seven and a half since he even had any involvement in football.

[Réiteoir]

Finishing second in a two horse league as one half of the worst management duo in Old Firm History (along with Johnny "Autocue" Barnes) seen as "fantastic"?

Quick - sign me up!

[Over the post]

Now Brady's odds have been slashed too; they're as short as 4s in some places. Yesterday's banker Hoddle now looks like a rank outsider. Obviously a lot of rumours doing the rounds. Either that or, not content with the Stan/Bobby paring, the FAI have decided to go for a triumvirate of Dalglish, Venables and Brady with Hoddle acting as a spiritual consultant.

[Deckydee]

Brady?

What is wrong with people?

What is wrong with this country?

[Drumcondra 69er]

1996/97 Manager of the year award

Surely not? He only took over Newcastle that year in January, even finishing runner up in the league had as much to do with Keegan as Dalglish that year...

Too long out of the game for me.....

[amaccann]

Brady?

What is wrong with people?

What is wrong with this country?
Years of hyping yourself as the underdog, coupled with a national sense of subservience.

[eekers]

if dalglish is so great why dont the scots appoint him?

he should stick to watching liverpool, playing golf and being involved with gangsters and football agents

[mypost]

if dalglish is so great why dont the scots appoint him?

He might win something for them.

[Dr. Ogba]

I can't believe that we've sunk so low....Dalglish should be filed firmly under "has-been" and we should look for someone that has actually managed in the last 10 years....

[mypost]

we should look for someone that has actually managed in the last 10 years....

Dalglish fits the bill.

[eekers]

he fit the bill if you want someone even dodgier than venables

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,1329327,00.html


With Rooney all the parties involved knew they had such a player. The court case heard that at an earlier meeting in November 2002, the former Liverpool and Scotland footballer, Kenny Dalglish, invited Tommy Adams - described in court as a 'notorious gangster' - to a rendezvous at a Heathrow hotel.


It was alleged that Dalglish, a major shareholder in Proactive which represented Rooney and a long-standing friend of Stretford, wanted Adams, head of London's top criminal family who had served seven years for importing cannabis, to provide protection for Stretford at the meeting with Hyland and McIntosh.


Stretford claimed in evidence that he felt intimidated at seeing a 'London villain' present and the meeting became heated when Hyland and the others could not get Stretford to sign a deal on their terms. Dalglish and Adams apparently said little but Dalglish, a former Footballer of the Year, then refused to give police a statement.


In court, Stretford said he felt let down by Dalglish. 'I have a had a great and long relationship with Kenny Dalglish and yes, I felt let down by him.'
Stretford himself was accused of wanting Adams present. 'You knew full well that Kenny Dalglish had engineered for one of his unsavoury friends to come and facilitate this meeting,' Lord Carlile, Hylands' barrister said in court. 'It was you who brought the heavy mob, wasn't it?' Stretford denied this and said it was 'fear and confusion' that prevented him from leaving the meeting.


Dalglish was also accused of influencing Rooney's switch from McIntosh to Stretford, visiting Rooney's home to convince his parents, Wayne snr and Jeanette, that their son should change representatives.


this is why no club team in england would consider him for manager

[Dr. Ogba]

Dalglish fits the bill.


barely!

anyway from doing a quick wikipedia search this sentence stood out for me:


In May 2007, he was linked with the managerial vacancy at Sheffield United following Neil Warnock's resignation, but the job went to Bryan Robson instead.

that really says it all about his current standing in the game....stop living in the past man!

[eekers]

it was widely reported during the summer
why does everyone on here question everything pointlessly?
you could of just googled it in 5 seconds

http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&q=%22Sheffield+United%22+dalglish+warnock+robson&btnG=Search&meta=

[mypost]

The story was reported on the odd forum, and a couple of newspapers. In any case, Robbo was always going to get that job. He'll be out of it soon enough. Maybe JD is waiting for him again...

Dalglish has a proven track record, while bringing stability to the post and potential progression, the kind of thing we need right now.

None of the "modern" candidates are very good, or very interested.

[eekers]

he's out of date and out of touch, coaching and management have moved on in the last 9 years.

he doesn't have a uefa pro licence. and has made no effort to get one in the last 4 years (since they have become compulsory for management in the premiership).
what does that say about the man?
he sees the Ireland job as an earner now that the salary has been raised (where was he when stan got it?) and one that wont interfere with his business interests

[tetsujin1979]

According to the nightly Irish manager update on Off The Ball (with suitably funky intro music) the 3 headhunters have not spoken to Kenny Dalglish and won't speak to him unless he contacts them first. Also, the new manager might be announced before the FAI AGM on January 21st or he might not - that might not be the correct date, I was half asleep listening to it

[Noelys Guitar]

It looks like Daglish wants to be offered the job. No interviews for Kenny and on that point I agree with him. The 3-man thing has been a shambles.
http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=sport-qqqm=sport-qqqa=sport-qqqid=51817-qqqx=1.asp

[Bondvillain]

The shambolic "interview process" has put off many, I'd wager.

Football people are an egotistical bunch, and want to be told they're the man, not asked 'probing questions' to ascertain whether they are or not..

This process is responsible for attracting the "i'll have a go's" who were sniffing around the job (Atkinson, Venables, Kendall etc etc) . We shouldn't want them, and a properly structured process would have ensured we were not embarrassed by association.

[geysir]

It looks like Daglish wants to be offered the job. No interviews for Kenny and on that point I agree with him. The 3-man thing has been a shambles.
http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer...817-qqqx=1.asp


'KENNY DALGLISH has indicated to close friends that he is ready to accept the Ireland manager’s job, subject to an official approach from the FAI'. ....
'is believed to have been nominated as a potential candidate by Ray Houghton'. Houghton .....'is likely to be charged with the task of sounding out the 56-year-old in the coming days.'
I suppose it does read that he is ready to accept the job and that the only contact will be through Houghton and Houghton reports back to the the other 2. Then the 3 of them will mull over it.

He is royalty after all, you can't expect him to apply for a job.

[Maroon 7]

According to the nightly Irish manager update on Off The Ball (with suitably funky intro music) the 3 headhunters have not spoken to Kenny Dalglish and won't speak to him unless he contacts them first.

Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of them being headhunters?

If they just expect people to contact them could we not just give them an office, a phone line and call them glorified secretaries?

[geysir]

Read the other posts, the Newstalk report sounds like shíte
It's widely rumoured that Houghton has already contacted Dalglish.

[eekers]

hodgson was met and was interviewed by the entire panel. and said that other interviews were taking place around the same time.

dalglish talked to his mate houghton on the phone.

newstalk report rings through

[shakermaker1982]

does anybody here seriously want Kenny? Other than deluded Liverpool fans I cannot see his appointment being popular amongst us fans - the 3 man panel nor the FAI wouldn't try and ram this third rate appointment down our throats after the WORLD CLASS Staunton fiasco? Surely not? Maybe it's just a ploy to make El Tel look fantastic.

[beautifulrock]

does anybody here seriously want Kenny? Other than deluded Liverpool fans I cannot see his appointment being popular amongst us fans - the 3 man panel nor the FAI wouldn't try and ram this third rate appointment down our throats after the WORLD CLASS Staunton fiasco? Surely not? Maybe it's just a ploy to make El Tel look fantastic.

or deluded Blackburn fans!! remmeber the last time we were supposed to get an ex liverpool manager, we got Big Jack instead.

[Poor Student]

I would rather Venables than Dagleish. At least Venners has has recent experience, it must be 10 years since King Kenny done anything in football. Another reason I don't want him is his close association with Pat Devlin.

His last proper involvement in football was as Director of Football at Celtic and caretaker manager for a third of the season once Barnes resigned. The whole episode was a total fiasco.

[Block G Raptor]

or deluded Blackburn fans!! remmeber the last time we were supposed to get an ex liverpool manager, we got Big Jack instead.

Word has it Rafa Benitez might be in the frame in a few weeks ;)

[DotTV]

What are the other options right now?

El Tel-just had a disaster with England.
Brady-failure at Celtic.
O Leary- didn't want it last time, has serious attitude problem
Kendall- !!!????

Is their anyone else?

Dalgleish has been out of the game for quite a while but he had a brilliant record with Liverpool, won the league with Blackburn and wasn't so bad with Newcastle.
He's achieved practically everything you can as a club player and was one of the greatest players in Europe when he played.
Surely he could improve players like McGeady, Keane, Duff etc.

He's definetly not the perfect answer but right now he's the best of a bad bunch. And he's a massive improvement on the last two managers(which wouldn't be hard really!)

[Stuttgart88]

Houllier? Jol?

[NeilMcD]

I would take either Houllier or Jol, and I would not mind them as Irish manager either boom boom

[Stuttgart88]

DotTV, you say Brady was a failure at Celtic and you say Dalglish has achieved practically everything you can as a club player and was one of the greatest players in Europe when he played, and could improve players like McGeady, Keane, Duff etc.

You could interchange Brady for Dalglish and vice versa and it' d hold true!.

I know Brady's record at Celtic was poor and his transfer record was pretty dodgy, but there were clear signs they were a well-coached team. There were few such signs there under Dalglish's tenure, either as Barnes' mentor or as caretaker.

Dalglish strikes me as a nasty character, a chancer who's always looking for an easy way of making money and whose work ethic is highly questionable, as is his man-management. Stan was slated for his media skills. All he was trying to do was mimic Dalglish. If we appoint Dalglish we won't have heard the last of the phrase "you tell me".

[paul_oshea]

i bet you would "take" them neil, i always had my suspicions about you....

[Maroon 7]

In fairness Brady was always on to a loser when he was at Celtic.Celtic were skint while Rangers were spending money like it was going out of fashion. Granted Brady made some mistakes in the transfer market but the Celtic job was a poisoned chalice at the time.

[NeilMcD]

i bet you would "take" them neil, i always had my suspicions about you....

Eh Paul, that was the joke I was hinting it glad you picked up on it.

[DotTV]

Sure, Brady and Dalglish would be comparable on playing skills but it's different re management. Dalglish achieved a lot with Liverpool.
Agreed his a dodgu character,I have a few stories about him.

I definetly would prefer Jol or Houllier but are they realistic targets? Will they come here?

[paul_oshea]

Eh Paul, that was the joke I was hinting it glad you picked up on it.

I thought you meant in the North DUblin nacker/west of Ireland bogger of "id take him anyday " i.e. fighting talk.

So I just wanted to highlight to the others my suspicions ( assuming you meant it in the other way ) about you ;)

[Noelys Guitar]

DotTV, you say Brady was a failure at Celtic and you say Dalglish has achieved practically everything you can as a club player and was one of the greatest players in Europe when he played, and could improve players like McGeady, Keane, Duff etc.

You could interchange Brady for Dalglish and vice versa and it' d hold true!.

I know Brady's record at Celtic was poor and his transfer record was pretty dodgy, but there were clear signs they were a well-coached team. There were few such signs there under Dalglish's tenure, either as Barnes' mentor or as caretaker.

Dalglish strikes me as a nasty character, a chancer who's always looking for an easy way of making money and whose work ethic is highly questionable, as is his man-management. Stan was slated for his media skills. All he was trying to do was mimic Dalglish. If we appoint Dalglish we won't have heard the last of the phrase "you tell me".

George Best many moons ago described Daglish as a complete ****. Daglish was taking the **** out of either fans or ballboys in a bad way when warming up for a game in which Best was playing in.

[DotTV]

Dalglish could get his daughter Kelly to give the players a rub down as a win bonus!
Performances might starting improving with that incentive.

[eekers]

more likely to find some way of qualifying paul dalglish for ireland , and making him a first teamer.