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Jerry The Saint
29/11/2007, 12:58 PM
rvDWiEi5LsM
I'm not sure if this is offensive because it's usually difficult to tell. As they said on the show, I defy anyone to be able to identify one of them from behind:confused:
Mate of mine went to see him in Ennis. He was having a cheapshot at Disabled People as part of the show,something about how come Disabled People get the parking spaces nearest the door of buildings, A girl in a wheelchair was in the audience and he had a pop of her, she left in a huff. As she was leaving he thanked her for her 30 Euro Entry fee.
Thats not funny imo, just Bad ****.
That is shocking. He crossed the line.
I heard he actually PUNCHED the disabled girl in the FACE :eek: That is too far, Tiernan should be banned from TV :mad:
NeilMcD
04/12/2007, 9:42 AM
What has Terry Venables got to do with it.
mypost
04/12/2007, 2:41 PM
I have to admit I've only seen him live once and seen his dvd and I think he's quite funny but nowhere near the standard of Dylan Moran, Dara O'Brian or even David O'Doherty.
My mother was complaining about him but as I explained to her The thing about TT is he says at the begining of the show "This is not the real world, we're hear for a bit of craic and a laugh" if you don't accept that then it's not for you, go watch someone more pc.
Streets ahead of any Irish comic atm, imo. The only downside, is too much of his act is spent on religion. It's hilarious, but I would like him to vary his act more. Still, he's well ahead of drab O'Doherty, Moran, and both Byrnes.
Look lads, if you get offended by a comic, the only advice I can give is go to Brendan Grace's funny but PC gigs.
BaZmO*
05/12/2007, 3:30 PM
Most annoying fella ever, thats why he never made it big outside of Ireland either.
Yeah you're damn right, he has a Perrier Award, an appearance on the Letterman Show and numerous appearances at the Just For Laughs Festival to prove your point too.
When TT started off he was hilarious but I think he has steadily gone downhill since then. He seems to to be relying too much on shock tactics and rehashing old ideas. I think he just needs to take a break from touring for a few years and live a little and come up with a few more fresh ideas.
On the topic of Tiernan as a comedian, I do think he's lost it to a point, as he relies on his energy to draw the crowd in rather than his stories these days. That said he is still streets ahead of any Irish comedian bar Dylan Moran, who is the second best comedian in the world at the moment, only behind Jerry Seinfeld, for my money.
Russell Brand's live show is actually funny, as you can see that the man is actually naturally witty and can interact with the crowd as well as the best of them. The girls having orgasms everytime he talks on the other hand.....
As for getting offended at the Holocaust, Down Syndrome etc., basically if you don't like it don't go to these shows. Scout ahead, find out what the comedian is like (Seinfeld and Peter Kay for example don't offend people with disabilities, go to him) and base it on that. Everyone in this country knows what Tiernan is about, so shouldn't go if they don't like sections of society being insulted. Personally I don't think there are any taboo subjects, so long as the comedian doesn't single out one audience member, drag them up on stage and proceed to embarass them for cheap laughs
smellyfeet
05/12/2007, 3:47 PM
As for getting offended at the Holocaust, Down Syndrome etc., basically if you don't like it don't go to these shows. Scout ahead, find out what the comedian is like (Seinfeld and Peter Kay for example don't offend people with disabilities, go to him) and base it on that. Everyone in this country knows what Tiernan is about, so shouldn't go if they don't like sections of society being insulted. Personally I don't think there are any taboo subjects, so long as the comedian doesn't single out one audience member, drag them up on stage and proceed to embarass them for cheap laughs[/QUOTE]
But as in my earlier post he did do this, to a girl in a wheel chair.
anto1208
05/12/2007, 4:08 PM
But as in my earlier post he did do this, to a girl in a wheel chair.
Well that is going on what your mate told you and then you told us so i cant have any opinion on that. could your mate have taken it up wrong ?
Maybe she said something when he was slagging off people in wheelchairs and then he had a go back.
FarmHoop
05/12/2007, 9:09 PM
Either everything is ok to slag or nothing is, as soon as you start protecting people from jokes you are saying there is something worng with them.
Exactly
rvDWiEi5LsM
I'm not sure if this is offensive because it's usually difficult to tell. As they said on the show, I defy anyone to be able to identify one of them from behind:confused:
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The point of that segment is not to poke fun at the disabled. it's Ricky Gervais charcter who is the butt of the joke. It's the old "comedy of embarrassment" rountine. Just like the Germans episode of Fawlty Towers is having a go at Basils attitude, not at the Germans.
As for the general point. I do think it's possible for a comic to go too far. For example, I haven't had the same respect for Billy Connolly since the Ken Bigley remarks incident. (Mind you, that's taking the reports of what he said as being accurate, so I am open to correction there) Not to say that anything is off limits, it all depends on how the topic is treated. If Tommy Tiernan did make fun of a disabled girl in the audience then that was wrong, and I wouldn't defend it. However I've never seen any material he's done that I thought was offensive. And I still think he's one of the top 3 Irish stand ups.
paul_oshea
06/12/2007, 8:42 AM
Yeah you're damn right, he has a Perrier Award, an appearance on the Letterman Show and numerous appearances at the Just For Laughs Festival to prove your point too.
Ya, thats why if you go to england or the states and ask anyone do htey know tommy tiernan, everyone will reply with "tommy who?!"
gustavo
06/12/2007, 8:47 AM
Ya, thats why if you go to england or the states and ask anyone do htey know tommy tiernan, everyone will reply with "tommy who?!"
Is it not enough to be successful in ones own country ? Why do we feel the need for outside success as some kind of validation
BaZmO*
06/12/2007, 9:03 AM
Ya, thats why if you go to england or the states and ask anyone do htey know tommy tiernan, everyone will reply with "tommy who?!"
Anyone? America and England have populations of 300 and 50 million respectively. I'm sure a few people have heard of him.
smellyfeet
06/12/2007, 9:21 AM
Well that is going on what your mate told you and then you told us so i cant have any opinion on that. could your mate have taken it up wrong ?
Maybe she said something when he was slagging off people in wheelchairs and then he had a go back.
No, read my first post, thats what happened, how could he have taken it up wrong if he was there.
Anyway its done now
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