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geysir
06/01/2008, 9:59 PM
Not much fuss?
He walked away from the u21 team in a Qualifier thinking he was too good to sit on the bench as a sub. Looking at that game today IŽd think how on earth did he inflate his head with the idea that that he was too good for just sitting on the bench. So IŽd say also what was the fuss about?
eirebhoy
06/01/2008, 11:36 PM
Not much fuss?
He walked away from the u21 team in a Qualifier thinking he was too good to sit on the bench as a sub.
If you look at the post I was replying to you'll see that that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. ;) Other than Owen Coyle I haven't seen anyone sign McCann's praises.
Stuttgart88
07/01/2008, 7:37 AM
What about Youngirish?
paul_oshea
07/01/2008, 7:48 AM
If you look at the post I was replying to you'll see that that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Other than Owen Coyle I haven't seen anyone sign McCann's praises.

ah but it has EB, thats exactly ( geysirs point ) what I was pointing to.
Dr. Ogba
07/01/2008, 8:44 AM
watched the game last night, was my first time seeing McCann in a full match and wasn't too impressed by him...O'Connor looked the more lively and dynamic of the two imho.

Having said that, its not really fair to judge on the basis of one performance against one of the best sides in the prem and there must be something about him if he's been playing first team in the championship since the age of nineteen and 2 separate managers rated him so highly...
OwlsFan
07/01/2008, 8:58 AM
I thought while O'Connor was involved in the game a lot and played some nice passes, he misplaced too many other passes for my liking.
Stuttgart88
07/01/2008, 9:24 AM
I've always thought James O'Connor is a tidy midfielder who does all of the things you want from a player in that position, but he's a midget and is a Championship level player. Fair play to him for carving out a good career for himself in a very competitive league. I can't see him ever being an option for the international team though.
nijboyle
07/01/2008, 9:55 AM
Anyone hear anything about Sligo Rovers defender Seamie Coleman who was on loan at Burnley?
youngirish
07/01/2008, 11:01 AM
What about Youngirish?

Funnily enough Stutts I still think McCann can be a very good player , yes even though he had an average game yesterday against the best team in Britain I'm still unwilling to drive that final nail into the coffin of his career just yet.

Too many people on here sing the praises of players or hang them out to dry based on one performance. How is Darren Potter doing this year again btw?

When you consider the other players Givens has started in the U21s, many of whom will never make the breakthrough at their respective clubs then I still believe McCann was good enough to be in those squads long before he actually receievd the call up. Remember this is Don Givens we are talking about , a plank of the highest order, and not Arsene Wenger. He consistently failed to include Garvan also, one of our only other U21 players that was getting regular club football at a decent level (surely something that should be taken into consideration).
geysir
07/01/2008, 11:26 AM
Besides the point but Burnley's manager Owen Coyle looks very fit, he takes care of himself and looks like he could still do a reasonable goalpoaching job.
Pity he only received a token cap. He is doing well as a championship manager.
NeilMcD
07/01/2008, 11:36 AM
I think Burnley are struggling to be honest, they have not won at home since he joined. But sure, he is looking well and thats the main thing.
eirebhoy
07/01/2008, 11:46 AM
ah but it has EB, thats exactly ( geysirs point ) what I was pointing to.
That just makes it very confusing so. :) Are you talking about how McCann rates himself? The fuss he's making over himself? :)


Besides the point but Burnley's manager Owen Coyle looks very fit, he takes care of himself and looks like he could still do a reasonable goalpoaching job.
Pity he only received a token cap. He is doing well as a championship manager.
He's probably the best player in the Sky Sports legends tournament that's on regularly.
cheifo
07/01/2008, 11:47 AM
Thought McCann did ok yesterday apart from his shooting.He has got a few goals this year and Burnley fans rate him a better prospect than Lafferty.He may not be a wonder boy but if he keeps getting games he should develop.
Still very young and cm is a tough position to master.
Stuttgart88
07/01/2008, 12:16 PM
Besides the point but Burnley's manager Owen Coyle looks very fit, he takes care of himself and looks like he could still do a reasonable goalpoaching job.
Pity he only received a token cap. He is doing well as a championship manager.Could be our next manager! He's certainly the highest placed ex-Irish international currently in management.
NeilMcD
07/01/2008, 12:22 PM
Roy Keane?
Stuttgart88
07/01/2008, 12:23 PM
In the back of my mind I knew there was someone else! Might not be for long though.
paul_oshea
07/01/2008, 2:49 PM
The fuss he's making over himself?

Yes.

And how some people on here were going on about him also.
shaneker
08/01/2008, 12:07 AM
Could be our next manager! He's certainly the highest placed ex-Irish international currently in management.

Mick McCarthy?
Stuttgart88
08/01/2008, 8:08 AM
God, I'm going mad. For some sub-concious reason I blocked Keane & McCarthy from my mind. I'm starting to have my own senior moments now.

I probably disgarded Mick because he could never manage us again, and Keane because, well, he may never manage us! If Coyle does well he could be in the frame to replace the new one.
Serb
08/01/2008, 3:45 PM
God, I'm going mad. For some sub-concious reason I blocked Keane & McCarthy from my mind. I'm starting to have my own senior moments now.

I probably disgarded Mick because he could never manage us again, and Keane because, well, he may never manage us! If Coyle does well he could be in the frame to replace the new one.

Would you want Keane on his current form? I'm sure you have all seen the press he has gotten from Clive Clarke.
inexile
08/01/2008, 3:51 PM
no didnt see that, what did clarke say??
Stuttgart88
08/01/2008, 3:52 PM
Yep, the Clarke article was interesting.

Would I want Keane if he was available tomorrow? Probably not: great player, unproven manager.
Stuttgart88
08/01/2008, 3:53 PM
no didnt see that, what did clarke say??

I can't find the interview with Sadlier in the Sindo, but SKY and The Telegraph have picked up on it today. Here's a summary:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=EBAI5Z13CDDB3QFIQMGSFFWAVCBQ WIV0?xml=/sport/2008/01/08/sfnfro208.xml
tetsujin1979
08/01/2008, 4:08 PM
I can't find the interview with Sadlier in the Sindo, but SKY and The Telegraph have picked up on it today. Here's a summary:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml;jsessionid=EBAI5Z13CDDB3QFIQMGSFFWAVCBQ WIV0?xml=/sport/2008/01/08/sfnfro208.xml


Here's the original article from the independent: http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/they-thought-i-was-dead-1258747.html