Has this forum changed your views on anything? [Archive]

gustavo

16/11/2007, 9:43 AM

I was just wondering today if this forum has had the effect of changing anyones views perceptions and outlook on any aspect of life?
The one thing I can say is that I am more orientated to supporting Sligo Rovers now than I was 6 years ago and less orientated to supporting any other team that I did when I joined up and I am fully sure it's this forums influence.
I probably am also more aware of the fact that it's just a game really when I see so many get worked up over things on here ,Maybe that's just because I am a mod so a certain level of detachment from the matter is required , And yes I am bored and yes I probably should be doing some work now but its Friday so I'm just counting down the clock.

Dodge

16/11/2007, 9:47 AM

I used to hate Corkies. Now I despise them. I also hate Kevin Nolan.

His great great grandad had to have been from Cork

dahamsta

16/11/2007, 10:04 AM

Running Foot.ie has had a major effect on how I view communities, although I don't know whether that's for better or worse. I also learned that football isn't all that bad really. :)

osarusan

16/11/2007, 10:05 AM

On a psychological level, it is interesting that people tend to reply to the negative threads more than the positive ones. Must say something about society in some way.

On a more basic level, people can't bloody write any more. I don't mean random spelling errers(sic) which everybody makes sometimes, I mean constant confusion over things like "their", "there", "they're" and so on.

The people don't wear leprechaun suits or sing "ole" consider themselves better fans than those who do, for some unknown reason.

Finally, the average eL fan has an inflated opinion of the quality of the eL, in terms of playing standard.

Lionel Ritchie

16/11/2007, 10:20 AM

I'd agree with a lot of what Osasuran said.

I'd also opine there is a certain element within the Ireland support who's narrowmindedness I find a bit disappointing really. Not massively surprising mind.

Dodge

16/11/2007, 10:32 AM

Not too many of those on here though.
LOI haters? Loads of them here ;)

If I was to answer the first question honestly I'd say it hasn't changed my views on anything but it has shown me that far more people than I thought just don't understand sarcasm. And far too many people take things too seriously.

Closed Account

16/11/2007, 11:05 AM

I used to think people who posted on message boards had nothing better to do.

No. Foot.ie hasn't changed my views on anything.

passinginterest

16/11/2007, 11:09 AM

posters on here made you stop wanting to go?

If you don't mind me asking, why?

Clearly his real name is Danny Drew...

I think this forum has definitely increased my interest in our own league. I've been to 10 games this season and, while most of them have been fairly poor (the best quality probably Pat's beating Sligo 4-1, the best for enjoyment Wexford Youths beating Shelbourne 3-1), I've really enjoyed them and will attend more games next season. If Rovers ever get their move to Tallaght I'll more than likely buy a season ticket there as it's about a five minute walk from my front door.

cheifo

16/11/2007, 11:12 AM

Well here is a compliment.:)On a positive note posters seem to be more interested(and sometimes more informed) in a broader range of topics be it social,political, entertainment etc than most people you meet.
I am very middle of the road in my views so yes my opinion and attitudes have been influenced to a degree on certain topics.I have found not all posters are open minded and will stick to their view despite being presented with overwhelming evidence to the contrary.Also a minority of posters on the Darron Gibson/eligibility issue in particular seemed very eager to tar all NI supporters with the one brush and it just came across like they have no time for Unionists on any level.
More importantly reccomendations for films have proved to be spot on.

Sheridan

16/11/2007, 11:34 AM

It hasn't taught me anything I didn't know (which would be difficult, admittedly) except that the standard of literacy in this country is plummeting through the basement, particularly in the West.

Closed Account

16/11/2007, 11:42 AM

It hasn't taught me anything I didn't know (which would be difficult, admittedly) except that the standard of literacy in this country is plummeting through the basement, particularly in the West.

tar all with the one brush
Now now Sheridan, some of us Westerners are not that bad. In fact, whilst I'm arguing the point, I haven't noticed much discrepancies in many Westerners posts, except for one guy........ (http://foot.ie/search.php?do=finduser&u=6182)

"much discrepancies in many Westerners posts" that doesn't sound right, but I'm too hungover to give a Brad Pitt

Risteard

16/11/2007, 11:48 AM

I was just wondering today if this forum has had the effect of changing anyones views perceptions and outlook on any aspect of life?

Absolutely, but just football.

It doesn't take long to figure out who's worth listening/reading to and they obviously know more about their players than opposition fans.
That's useful seen as the media coverage of the league is so limited.

For example . . I've seen Drogs on el weekly every week, the odd game on telly and in the flesh twice this season but I've no idea whether Shelley is even decent enough to be considered for eL player of the season only for positive comments from people on here.

Schumi

16/11/2007, 12:26 PM

Sam_Heggy

16/11/2007, 1:17 PM

Id say im more involved with Harps (through foot.ie and our main forum).
Away games are better too, usually meet up with other foot members. My general view on football hasn't changed much though. Still hate the muckers, love the Harps and dispise play-offs. Hope to change my view on the latter over the next 10 days though. :cool:

sligoman

16/11/2007, 1:31 PM

This forum made me more aware of how many barstoolers there is and taught me to dislike them:).
I've become more detached from supporting the national team as a result of here[although some of it is due to Stan and the FAI].
Learned to dislike Stephen Ireland more.
Rovers away games are more fun and I've actually made more friends from this forum.

lofty9

16/11/2007, 1:31 PM

1. I've learned to be more tolerant of people's views

by using the ignore list :)

cheifo

16/11/2007, 1:45 PM

Oh yeh and I didnt know Tom Symmonds existed before foot.ie.The shame of it.:o

Sam_Heggy

16/11/2007, 1:56 PM

Oh yeh and I didnt know Tom Symmonds existed before foot.ie.The shame of it.:o

Knew he existed but didnt know how much of an EL legend he was :p

Jerry The Saint

16/11/2007, 2:06 PM

Knew he existed but didnt know how much of an EL legend he was :p

T*m was in Belfield for the U-21 final last night, exclusively announcing that Pats have signed Jason Byrne for next season (Johnny McDonnell clarified that he'd actually signed Mick Byrne to play up front :))

He was also in Richmond for the last game of the season - was a bit worried actually, hadn't seen him since the T*mwatch thread was banned.

kingdom hoop

16/11/2007, 7:18 PM

After almost a year this is probably the right time to do an audit, thanks Gustavo. Off the top of my head though it's hard to think of any particular topic that really made me revise my opinion, eyes were opened to new things of course but I can't remember a debate where I had to cower and weep after my perspective was blown out of the water. :p

So it's been less volte-face more personal affirmation; including, my love for language and writing, I like people, that my open-minded Weltanschauung is almost perfectly configured, jokes are in the top five best things in the world, and that my penchant, sometimes delectable usually embarrassing, for nonchalantly opening up and blabbering on to strangers about anything and everything is well and truly intact. :)

The main thing I've noticed is how differently people seem to act online compared to real life.

I think a forum is a valuable prism for seeing what kind of characteristics people have. Like, when someone challenges your view do you do a hedgehog or do you explain and try find a more mutually beneficial understanding of the issue, or similarly, say if someone says something stupid do you just make a joke and laugh or do you try help them, and of course still laugh as well. Actually come to think of it I don't really know anyone here in 'real life' so I suppose I'm not qualified to comment on any differences in behaviour, but maybe the personality of someone on a forum is more the real them as they've got free reign and that the only reason they're not so, say for example, argumentative in real life is because they're more conscious of social norms. Hmmm, so is this the real me now? Yes, I think it is actually, the more bull****ty and random the comments the more likely it's really me. :D

John83

16/11/2007, 7:21 PM

T*m was in Belfield for the U-21 final last night, exclusively announcing that Pats have signed Jason Byrne for next season (Johnny McDonnell clarified that he'd actually signed Mick Byrne to play up front :))

He was also in Richmond for the last game of the season - was a bit worried actually, hadn't seen him since the T*mwatch thread was banned.
Maybe he only exists in our heads.

Bluebeard

16/11/2007, 11:32 PM

Maybe he only exists in our heads.

Like any God, he only exists as long as people continue to believe in, and fail to avoid, him.

superfrank

17/11/2007, 12:01 PM

My opinions on football have changed a bit from exposure to foot.ie.

My views on supporting football teams have changed:

I never really believed it but since I joined the forum I've developed a fierce dislike for the "support your local side and noone else" view. I'd like the el to be more popular but I don't like the whole snobish attitude that a lot of el fans on here have and I hate the idea that we should all jump on the bandwagon (a la Irish national team fans) when an el side does well in Europe.

Also, I happen to support two other teams (Chelsea and Marseille) and only once have I been asked why I support Marseille yet there's countless times I've been attacked for stating my support of Chelsea. I find this confusing as they are both clubs I have no real attachment to, I just like them yet one always gets more questioning then the other because they're English.

My views on the Irish football fan have changed too:

I have no feelings about the English team but when I see all the crap that's brought up anytime the English national team is mentioned, it disgusts me that these posters are all Irish. A lot of people have a chip on there shoulder (quite often subconsciously) with the English team over political matters past (which have nothing to do with football), others dislike them because of the English media (again it is nothing to do with the players).

My views on the Irish (solely) national fan have changed too:

The majority of them are moaners and will never graduate to any higher level. Plain and simple.

Also, I was never aware of how full of one's team some fans can be, how unrealistic some fans (mainly Bray) expectations can be and how unbelievably biased some fans are about there own club.

The rest of my opinions on the world have remained unaltered.

jebus

17/11/2007, 3:34 PM

I'm sure it has but I'm trying to think in what way.....

Well I started having a further look at the Socialist Party after a whooping I recieved in a thread by BohsPartisan about a year or so ago, and I have to say they aren't half as bad as I thought then, and actually got my number two choice in this year's general election down in Cork.

My dislike of Galway United supporters grows with each passing discussion that ends in them claiming that people are just obsessed with their club (try winning a few points lads, it might shut us up quicker)

In my time here I've actually gone off world football a bit, I don't think it has anything to do with a new found LoI til I die attitude, and maybe it just happened that I've been here during a bad patch in the quality of world football as I see it, I don't know.

I've starting reading back over my posts for spelling mistakes or typos in threads where people bemoan the literacy skills of Irish people.

I've come to find that some of the Cobh support isn't actually as bad as I once though, but that a few of them are a lot worse then I once thought

micls

17/11/2007, 4:18 PM

it has shown me that far more people than I thought just don't understand sarcasm. And far too many people take things too seriously.

Definitely and not just on here, I've noticed in on a few footie forums(the only type I go on). It seems that if you don't use a smilie you must be 100% serious.

GavinZac

17/11/2007, 4:21 PM

Definitely and not just on here, I've noticed in on a few footie forums(the only type I go on). It seems that if you don't use a smilie you must be 100% serious.
Thats what emoticons are for though! Its the only way of implying tone.

Dodge

17/11/2007, 4:42 PM

Thats what emoticons are for though! Its the only way of implying tone.

Common sense dicatates tone usually

micls

17/11/2007, 4:44 PM

Common sense dicatates tone usually

To me it seems it's too difficult for some people to read the post, put it in context of the thread and previous posts in it so they take the short cut of if it has a smilie it's not serious, if it doesn't it is.

CollegeTillIDie

18/11/2007, 8:59 AM

There is a lot of information about totally random things including football posted on here for free. And not all of it is spurious, or hype or idle speculation although all of that can alos be found here. There's a lot of hideous bile, spleen, venom and downright bovine manure posted here too. However it's a mixed bag.

I've learned stuff about music in the Off Topic thread I wouldn't have learned elsewhere.
I am not sure which opinions have been altered by this website. Although I would say perhaps this website may have influenced the way my opinions on some issues have been shaped since I first started posting here. I have noticed that there is a lack of tolerance particularly among younger posters to divergent opinions.
That sort of tunnel view led to the problems we had in Europe in the 1920's and 1930's when a more extreme form of intolerance lead to most of Europe voting Fascist. And thankfully young people cannot be arsed to vote or we could all be in trouble in Ireland in the medium to longer term :D

As regards spelling problems well spellcheck cannot help you sort out their, they're and there and we are becoming more and more reliant on it.

paul_oshea

19/11/2007, 1:08 PM

ya, that people who speak very sensibly and logically on a forum are generally extremely weird and scary looking.

Ubers, also, make me more disinterested in things generally too.

Finally, agree with the "that them there" stuff. Most annoying.

literacy

In the common context, this would generally be taken as the "reading" rather than the writing aspect. In the case of this I think you mean the writing case more than the reading - at the end of the day, you cant see what people read and how they interpret/understand it, but yet we can all see how poor peoples written skills are on this forum particularly in the Junior League and the Eircom league. I think I understand the reason behind this too and yes how this forum generally mirrors everday Irish society, its characteristics and traits.

I've just read a few more posts and thought about so much more, and summing up I would say that most of what I thought of people and my perceptions have been reinforced by what people say on here. I also hate the fact that people on here who are very vocal and loud, are the quietest type people when met in person. Grow a set of liathriodi.

pineapple stu

19/11/2007, 5:42 PM

The main thing I've noticed is how differently people seem to act online compared to real life. People who are normally perfectly reasonable get into the most ridiculous, over the top arguments about completely trivial things with people they've never met.
Never noticed that myself, to be honest.

It's interesting to note that most people are utterly incapable of taking any sort of criticism about their club. Really is the most remarkable blind spot*.

But no, hasn't really changed my views on anything. I don't take the internet that seriously (though some may doubt that...)

* - doesn't apply to UCD obviously as we're perfectly run.

BohsPartisan

19/11/2007, 6:05 PM

Posting on foot.ie has convinced me of how right I am about everything! :cool:
;)

strangeirish

19/11/2007, 7:10 PM

Posting on foot.ie has convinced me of how right I am about everything!
;)
Are you from Cork?:D

DIFChick

19/11/2007, 7:55 PM

Can't say my views on anything football related has changed since becoming a member on foot.ie. People here are just as passionate about the game and their respective teams as they are back home in Sweden.

I suppose my view on my own work ethics has changed. Since moving to Dublin, I spend more time on foot.ie than I used to. I also spend more time on my regular Swedish football forum.

Just in case my boss is on here: ...And I do LOADS of work too. :D

kingdom hoop

20/11/2007, 9:17 AM

Running Foot.ie has had a major effect on how I view communities

Could you elaborate a little on that please? I know, I know, if I was a cat I'd be killed.

people who speak very sensibly and logically on a forum are generally extremely weird and scary looking.

Aha yes. You see us logicians must almost necessarily be weird, for to make sense of the ways of the world you need to be able to appreciate the extremities of whatever the topic, putting yourself in all manner of bizarre circumstances takes a certain degree of weirdity alright. You're spot on about the scary looking thing, still though, makes a change from being called horrifying.

I also hate the fact that people on here who are very vocal and loud, are the quietest type people when met in person.

:confused: Ah is there an audio section that I'm being restricted access to?

cheifo

20/11/2007, 10:28 AM

ya, that people who speak very sensibly and logically on a forum are generally extremely weird and scary looking.

Ubers, also, make me more disinterested in things generally too.

. I also hate the fact that people on here who are very vocal and loud, are the quietest type people when met in person. Grow a set of liathriodi.

Paul I hope in person you are a little bit less judgemental of people.;)