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DRDoc
30/10/2007, 4:58 AM
Ok "DrDoc" and "The Lilywhites" have put together an Under 23 squad - its not neccessarily what we think Fenlon and Matthews will go for but we reckon it will come close(ish) :D


Barry Murphy Shamrock
Darren Quigley UCD


Seamus Coleman Sligo
Connor Kenna UCD
Ian Bermingham UCD
Conor Powell Bohemians
Gavin Peers Sligo
Dean Lawrence Shamrock
Sean Kelly Cork
Shane Guthrie Cobh

Shane McFaul UCD
Gary Deegan Longford
Stephen McDonnell Bohemians
JP Kelly Bohemians
Jay OShea Bray
Conan Byrne UCD
Ronan Finn UCD
Shaun Williams Dundalk(on loan from Drogheda)
Kevin Deery? Derry
Stephen Bradley Drogheda


Matthew Judge Sligo
Mark Quigley St Pats
Tadgh Purcell Shamrock
Conor Sammon UCD
Dave Mooney? Longford

Mooney and Deery have question marks as we are not sure if they are eligible

Two First Division Players have been included - sure to be debatable - Lilywhites insisted on Williams and well we thought Guthrie has had a good season

Its a 25 man squad - we couldnt decide on another keeper so we didnt pick any :eek:

Barry Molloy?, Ger Rowe?, Paddy Kavanagh? Killian Brennan? were midfielders obviously considered but we thought they may be ineligible. Molloy if eligible would get our vote for sure - Kavanagh probably also, and perhaps Rowe and or Brennan. We also considered Gary McCabe but he didnt make the final cut

Upfront we have serious doubts over Behans eligibility so we have left him out to be on the safe side - otherwise he would be a cert - no anti cork bias here. Karl Bermigham and Paul Dunphy were also mentioned but their names didnt come out of the hat
Schumi
30/10/2007, 10:11 AM
Its a 25 man squad - we couldnt decide on another keeper so we didnt pick any :eek:

Is Bohs' Murphy under 23? If so, he should be there.
gufct
30/10/2007, 10:16 AM
Alan Keane & John Fitzgerald will surely get a look in.
BrayUnknowns
30/10/2007, 10:30 AM
If Bray get any players in then i reckon it will be McCabe and Kavangh, 2 of the best young wingers in the league. Mark Duggan and Jay O'Shea also have a shout.

Just looking through the list, it's great to see so much young talent in the league who can only get better. Depending on what the cut off date is for players the likes of Zayed and Beehan could also be included...
DRDoc
30/10/2007, 11:36 AM
We werent sure about Keane and Fitzgerald age wise, we did consider them though - Fitzgerald in particular

We didnt think Bates was irish

The bray guys will have a better idea but I had been very impressed by OShea anytime I saw him. Duggan was also mentioned but for his position there were better options we thought. Kavanagh we think might be too old - not sure

We thought Zayed was 24 but we may have got that wrong
DRDoc
30/10/2007, 11:37 AM
Seeing as Price has been injured pratically all season he wasnt considered - he still is injured also
Réiteoir
30/10/2007, 11:40 AM
Bates was born in Newcastle, and is well and truly English
DmanDmythDledge
30/10/2007, 11:40 AM
We werent sure about Keane and Fitzgerald age wise, we did consider them though - Fitzgerald in particular

We didnt think Bates was irish

The bray guys will have a better idea but I had been very impressed by OShea anytime I saw him. Duggan was also mentioned but for his position there were better options we thought. Kavanagh we think might be too old - not sure

We thought Zayed was 24 but we may have got that wrong
Both the Galway lads are 23.

You're right on everything else, apart from Kavanagh who is 21.
pete
30/10/2007, 12:11 PM
Cannot think of any City player worthy of this. Sean Kelly is not good enough.

Would be interesting to see how many of this squad would get near an eL best squad (i.e. no age restrictions). Can't see much point in the tournament anyway.
DmanDmythDledge
30/10/2007, 12:27 PM
Republic of Ireland Under-23 squad
Barry Murphy - Shamrock Rovers
Darren Quigley - UCD
Gavin Peers - Sligo Rovers
Conor Kenna - UCD
Conor Powell - Bohemians
Seamus Coleman - Sligo Rovers
Ger O’Brien - Shamrock Rovers
Darren Murphy - Cork City
Sean Kelly - Cork City
Kevin Deery - Derry City
Cillian Brennan - Derry City
Paul Keegan - Drogheda United
John Paul Kelly - Bohemians
Stephen O’Donnell - Bohemians
Stephen Bradley - Drogheda United
Stephen Rice - Bohemians
Patrick Kavanagh - Bray Wanderers
Conor Sammon - UCD
Denis Behan - Cork City
David Mooney - Longford Town
Mark Quigley - St. Patrick’s Athletic
Ger Rowe - Shamrock Rovers

Absolute joke that Ronan Finn wasn't included.
Sam_Heggy
30/10/2007, 12:40 PM
Republic of Ireland Under-23 squad
Barry Murphy - Shamrock Rovers
Darren Quigley - UCD
Gavin Peers - Sligo Rovers
Conor Kenna - UCD
Conor Powell - Bohemians
Seamus Coleman - Sligo Rovers
Ger O’Brien - Shamrock Rovers
Darren Murphy - Cork City
Sean Kelly - Cork City
Kevin Deery - Derry City
Cillian Brennan - Derry City
Paul Keegan - Drogheda United
John Paul Kelly - Bohemians
Stephen O’Donnell - Bohemians
Stephen Bradley - Drogheda United
Stephen Rice - Bohemians
Patrick Kavanagh - Bray Wanderers
Conor Sammon - UCD
Denis Behan - Cork City
David Mooney - Longford Town
Mark Quigley - St. Patrick’s Athletic
Ger Rowe - Shamrock Rovers

Absolute joke that Ronan Finn wasn't included.

No room for any 1st Div players either. :(
Dodge
30/10/2007, 12:44 PM
Absolute joke that ... wasn't included.
Don't think I've ever seen a national team squad selected without someone claiming this about some player
DmanDmythDledge
30/10/2007, 12:50 PM
Don't think I've ever seen a national team squad selected without someone claiming this about some player
In fairness if Kevin Deery can make the squad...
MariborKev
30/10/2007, 12:50 PM
http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/mhmheymhgbkf/
TheBoss
30/10/2007, 1:04 PM
Bates was born in Newcastle, and is well and truly English

He was born in a Newcastle, but that was in Australia.
pete
30/10/2007, 1:22 PM
I think I make 6 players not first choice at their clubs.

Was unsure if Behan was young enough but Darren Murphy (not started a game since June) & Sean Kelly (not good enough yet) are strange choices.

Cannot comment on omissions as don't know the age of players from other clubs.

All bar 2 players from the top & clubs in the league.
Dodge
30/10/2007, 1:25 PM
Keegan's not first choice at Drogheda but would be for practically any other team.

Looks a bit short at centre half to me
pete
30/10/2007, 1:26 PM
Looks a bit short at centre half to me

True. Kelly & Murphy picked for that position. See comments above...
sligoman
30/10/2007, 1:29 PM
Backroom Staff:

Pat Fenlon Manager
Alan Matthews Assistant Manager
Pete Mahon Pro Licence Coach
Dave Henderson Goalkeeper Coach
Malcolm Slattery Kitman
Tony McCarthy Physio
Larry Byrne Physio
Eddie Corcoran Logistics Officer
Ronan O'Callaghan Doctor
eamo1
30/10/2007, 1:41 PM
What a joke that Alan Keane isnt in the squad.Im hoping drogs or someone doesnt try get him from us during the off season.he reminds me of jamie carragher,so consistent,a great reader of the game,and he plays for the shirt.
this is the squad to play against the non league english and welsh sides yes?id love to see an eircom league squad picked of irish players of any age group,they'd beat a league 1 english equivalent i reckon.
joema
30/10/2007, 1:43 PM
He was born in a Newcastle, but that was in Australia.

AFAIK he was born in Newcastle in England, he played for Newcastle United and then for Newcastle Jets in Australia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Bates
sligoman
30/10/2007, 1:46 PM
this is the squad to play against the non league english and welsh sides yes?No, Slovakia, Northern Ireland and Belgium. England & Wales are in a seperate group. Winners of both groups play each other in the final then.
eamo1
30/10/2007, 2:06 PM
thanks for that info.its a bit of a pointless tournament i reckon,theres no media coverage for it either but then does it deserve any??like the fool that i am ill still be curious to know how they do.
pateen
30/10/2007, 2:08 PM
Is the Conna Maradonna under age still. AKA Liam Kearney.

Thought he played U-21 with Dennis Behan :confused:
Schumi
30/10/2007, 2:14 PM
Is the Conna Maradonna under age still. AKA Liam Kearney.Wouldn't think so, he must be 4 or 5 years in the league now and I think he was about 20 when he signed for Cork.
Jerry The Saint
30/10/2007, 2:16 PM
Backroom Staff:

Pat Fenlon Manager
Alan Matthews Assistant Manager
Pete Mahon Pro Licence Coach
Dave Henderson Goalkeeper Coach
Malcolm Slattery Kitman
Tony McCarthy Physio
Larry Byrne Physio
Eddie Corcoran Logistics Officer
Ronan O'Callaghan Doctor

Is that for the Ireland U-23 team or Pats for next season? :) :eek:
Cymro
30/10/2007, 2:17 PM
Anoyone know where the tournament's being held? I can understand the English, Welsh and Irish leagues being involved, but it's a bit random to have Italy, Belgium, Finland and Slovakia. And no Scotland, apparently.

Based on what I know, this is who's taking part:

Group A:
England
Wales
Finland
Italy

Group B:
Rep of Ireland
Northern Ireland
Belgium
Slovakia

Wouldn't it be much better logistically speaking to have Scotland involved instead of Slovakia? Bet it's costing their FA a fortune to enter them.
Dodge
30/10/2007, 2:30 PM
Anoyone know where the tournament's being held? I can understand the English, Welsh and Irish leagues being involved, but it's a bit random to have Italy, Belgium, Finland and Slovakia. And no Scotland, apparently.

Why is it random for them and not for us? Its just a makey up thing anyway with different eligibility rules for different countries
jmurphyc
30/10/2007, 2:40 PM
When and from where are the tickets being released?
Cymro
30/10/2007, 2:42 PM
Why is it random for them and not for us? Its just a makey up thing anyway with different eligibility rules for different countries

Well I guess you could say it's random for them because the European teams are from all over the place whereas the British and Irish teams are located rather close to each other. That's what I meant rather than eligibility rules.
Schumi
30/10/2007, 2:50 PM
When and from where are the tickets being released?Get them at the gate I'd say. Wouldn't expect a big crowd for this.
Dodge
30/10/2007, 2:51 PM
When and from where are the tickets being released?

LOL. If there's more than 3,000 at the game I'd be amazed
pete
30/10/2007, 3:03 PM
When and from where are the tickets being released?

The FAI have only selling as block booking due to demand. You can apply on the web site.
De Town
30/10/2007, 3:13 PM
Bit disappointed to see Gary Deegan not get into the squad, been our best player this season IMO.

Out of that lot, my team would be:

Murphy
Coleman Kenna Peers Powell
Kavanagh Keegan Joxer Brennan
Mooney Quigley
Raheny Red
30/10/2007, 9:29 PM
Is that for the Ireland U-23 team or Pats for next season? :) :eek:

Just all Shels rejects :p
doucha
30/10/2007, 9:42 PM
pete friend are you saying it will be hard to get tickets for the cup final?:eek:
bellavistaman
30/10/2007, 9:50 PM
****in joke about guthrie. Darren Murphy inclusion is very dodgy i have to say, he hasnt played much, our two midfeilders would have more of a case than him.
eirebhoy
30/10/2007, 10:21 PM
What have attendances for these games been like previously? I know the standard of player wasn't anywhere near as good though (mostly reserves and youths from the EL clubs).
DmanDmythDledge
30/10/2007, 10:52 PM
our two midfeilders would have more of a case than him.
As would almost any midfielder in the Premier.
Rovers fan
30/10/2007, 11:24 PM
gavin peers was down as a goalie on eircom league weekly! All the strikers were down as defenders. Typical.
DmanDmythDledge
31/10/2007, 11:05 AM
All bar 2 players from the top & clubs in the league.
Presume you mean 7, which would leave 5 players.
soccerc
31/10/2007, 11:24 AM
What have attendances for these games been like previously? I know the standard of player wasn't anywhere near as good though (mostly reserves and youths from the EL clubs).

Dreadful.

In 2002 the largest attendance that year was the game between England and Ireland in Boston Lincs 400, Ireland V Scotland in Kettering was 220 and Ireland V Wales in Boston 300

They appear to be similar in years 2002/04/05 and 06.
Ceirtlis
31/10/2007, 12:01 PM
What have attendances for these games been like previously? I know the standard of player wasn't anywhere near as good though (mostly reserves and youths from the EL clubs).

There were about 200 for an interleague game in terryland 7 or 8 years ago against the Irish leagues finest. It was close enough to a full strength eircom league side as well.
pete
31/10/2007, 4:01 PM
pete friend are you saying it will be hard to get tickets for the cup final?:eek:

Tickets all sold. Huge demand to sit in uncovered temporary seats in the RDS in December. ;)
bellavistaman
31/10/2007, 4:05 PM
As would almost any midfielder in the Premier.

correct but obviously under the age
dcfcsteve
03/11/2007, 4:13 AM
http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/mhmheymhgbkf/

Is this what ther Nordies have been banging on about re Gibson et al ?

Seems ridiculous that someone born on the island of Ireland, constitutionally and legally entitled to an Irish passport by birth, should be ruled ineligible to play for Ireland by a bunch of soccercrats in Switzerland...... :eek:

Good Friday agreement anyone....?
DmanDmythDledge
03/11/2007, 11:47 AM
Is this what ther Nordies have been banging on about re Gibson et al ?

Seems ridiculous that someone born on the island of Ireland, constitutionally and legally entitled to an Irish passport by birth, should be ruled ineligible to play for Ireland by a bunch of soccercrats in Switzerland...... :eek:

Good Friday agreement anyone....?
That's a different situation. Higgins played for Northern Ireland U-21s but didn't declare that he was switching allegiance to the Republic before he turned 21.
Martinho II
04/11/2007, 1:11 PM
does anyone know what weekend that under 23 match is on? disappointed that gary deegan didnt make it as he has being a different class for us since he joined us from shels. very surprised that higgins couldnt make it due to this new rule...
sligoman
04/11/2007, 1:18 PM
does anyone know what weekend that under 23 match is on?Tuesday the 13th of November. 19:45 k/o in Dalymount Park.
dcfcsteve
04/11/2007, 5:45 PM
That's a different situation. Higgins played for Northern Ireland U-21s but didn't declare that he was switching allegiance to the Republic before he turned 21.

What about the below line frOm that article though. Is it just RTE getting the story wrong ? :


However, UEFA refused to sanction the move as the Derry City midfielder has no connections with the Republic.