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DmanDmythDledge
23/01/2008, 1:26 PM
Can't understand why everyone keeps going on about how England appointed Capello so fast. He came out and said he wanted the job, then they appointed him. No 3 man committee, no short list, just one of the most successful managers in the game saying he wants the job. Nobody could screw it up.
The only part of the process that was speeded up were the negotiations with Capello. The FA made out a three man shortlist, approached the first name on the list, he refused, so on to the second.

tetsujin1979
23/01/2008, 2:01 PM
According to this - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/7109777.stm - Mourinho ruled himself out of the job, then Capello said he would be interested in it.

OwlsFan
25/01/2008, 10:31 AM
I see Givens is quoted as stating there is a fair chance the new candidate will be in the stands for the game against Brazil even though in the same breath he said that "three more" candidates to interview :confused:

Money is definitely what is delaying the process imho. The candidate has been chosen but the salary is a sticking point.

ifk101
29/01/2008, 9:30 AM
Unless Coppell can be convinced (highly unlikely) we should just give it to Brady and hope he puts a good set up together, the players keep fit and actually take some responsibility.

No, accepting second best is not on.

The FAI needs to take the brave step of admitting mistake in its selection procedures and start again from square 1.

Stuttgart88
29/01/2008, 9:32 AM
That's rational Scandinavian thinking for you. I'm feeling more impulsive!

geysir
29/01/2008, 9:42 AM
Rational could mean appointing Venables.
Though behind the veneer of the interview process the panel have made offers as they went along.
With hindsight the panel should control the interview process. Not take applications for the job and be obliged to interview every suit who applies.

cavan_fan
29/01/2008, 9:46 AM
No, accepting second best is not on.

The FAI needs to take the brave step of admitting mistake in its selection procedures and start again from square 1.

I dont get this. They have spoken to most of the people we would like to see as manager. There was some interest but in the en not that many attractive candidates want the job. I sense they dont want to appoint Venables and are now just going to go on until the find someone else. What would going back to square 1 mean, speaking to Houllier again?

Stuttgart88
29/01/2008, 9:48 AM
Maybe Pat Walker will get a call after all.

ifk101
29/01/2008, 10:06 AM
What would going back to square 1 mean, speaking to Houllier again?

I was thinking along the lines of disbanding the panel.

Paddy Garcia
29/01/2008, 10:25 AM
Houllier is supposed to have recommended Tigana.

Houllier is out, Venables may not be ratified or even recommended.

Unless Coppell can be convinced (highly unlikely) we should just give it to Brady and hope he puts a good set up together, the players keep fit and actually take some responsibility.

But Brady would be a huge risk. At least Stan was an unknown quantity (sort of) - whereas Brady's record in management is known and was a disaster.

Stuttgart88
29/01/2008, 10:29 AM
I had pints with a Brighton fan on Friday. He said Brady was good there but his biggest attribute was attracting good players to a lowly club. He used Dickov as an example.

On the other hand he said Coppell was a superb manager.

ifk101
29/01/2008, 11:10 AM
Whatever credentials Brady has for the job, there are not sufficient enough to command a seven digit wage.

Unfortunately the FAI jumped the gun here in announcing its willing to offer a seven-digit wage to the prospective manager. Silly, silly, silly.

This announcement has attracted every "has been" to the position and has resulted in the panel considering each of these "has beens" for the job. This is a waste of time and resources, especially in consideration that the panel is struggling to agree times and places that all three can meet. And nobody is going to accept the job now for less than seven-digits.

What needs to be done is to immediately disband the panel and headhunt who the FAI think is good enough for the job. Yes I know the FAI has stated that it doesn't have the knowledge to appoint the manager but they are dictating and shaping the selection process as it stands so the panel is not needed. They're already made a dog's dinner out of things so it's time to take a step backwards so we can move two forward.

The new manager should be appointed for the World Cup campaign only. Once this is done, the FAI should set out to appoint an international football consultant. This consultant should be used to appoint a new U21 manager with the understanding that this appointment can potentially be a credible candidate for the senior position. (This idea should be replicated all the way down to U15 level ie the U15 manager could, if needed, be promoted to U18 levels etc etc). In doing so, the FAI puts itself in the position where it can promote from within and thus strenghten its bargaining position and protect itself when it comes around to the next senior position appointment.

OwlsFan
08/02/2008, 12:28 PM
I have been impressed though by the silence of the 3 Panelists on the subject. There haven't been any leaks from them and it's the press (and foot.ie ;)) which has been driving the speculation. The FAI used to be a sieve but most of the holes now seemed to have been blocked.

Was a bit strange that the temporary manager should have been involved in the interviewing process. I am sure he had a slight conflict there as he probably had half an eye on the job himself as well as being distracted by preparing the team for the game against Brazil.

Still, it will be worth the wait I am sure as John Sheridan is unveiled as the new manager :D

JimmyP
08/02/2008, 5:57 PM
'Houghton defends appointment process'

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/0205/houghtonr.html?rss (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/0205/houghtonr.html?rss)


According to the FAI, a new manager will be in place within the next eight days and in an interview on Sky television tonight Houghton said that he understood the general frustration with the drawn-out process.