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gustavo
19/10/2007, 2:52 PM
its the same with Mark Rossiter at Bohs , he isnt allowed play professional football again due to terms of a compensation package with Sunderland so now he's a "coach" with Bohemians

paul_oshea
19/10/2007, 2:57 PM
agree. its pathetic beyond words


sorry im lost?!

Drumcondra 69er
19/10/2007, 3:00 PM
sorry im lost?!

Last year before the Czech game (I think it was) the 'Irish' Sun sent a number of people dressed up in Muppet costumes to a training session in Malahide to try and get photos with the players also in shot.

Embarrassing and shameful, cannot understand who anyone would buy that rag.

Newryrep
19/10/2007, 3:06 PM
Paddy Power betting on next Irish manager. What do you all think:

Ruud Gullit 40/1
Ronald Koeman 40/1
Didier Deschamps 40/1



Any of the above 3 but not a chance in hell unfortunately

I would go the European route,Roy Hodgson as somebody mentioned earlier, speaks english and knows the players are not going to be that gifted technically unlike a Troussioer/Milahovic ??? who may expect a higher techncal level

Dr. Ogba
19/10/2007, 3:16 PM
What exactly has Troussier done to warrant being linked with the job? Genuinely don't know who he's coached before and has he coached any team of note recently?

Sligo Hornet
19/10/2007, 3:19 PM
Isn't it sad, that after 216 posts...........he's still there!:(

OwlsFan
19/10/2007, 3:20 PM
Why not Roy Hodgson


Always thought the guy was a waffler (reminded me of David Pleat) but I agree that's not a reason to go against him. He certainly has had a varied coaching career and did a Big Jack with Switzerland between 1992-95 but he doesn't stay any place very long which isn't a good sign. Presumably also he'd have to be bought out of his Finnish contract. They're doing ok under him in their group (20 pts from 12 games and in 4th place ahead of Belgium).


[edit] Coaching career
1976-80 Halmstads BK
1980-82 Bristol City
1982-84 Örebro SK
1984-89 Malmö FF
1989-92 Neuchâtel Xamax
1992-95 Switzerland
1995-97 Internazionale
1997-98 Blackburn Rovers
1999 Internazionale
1999-2000 Grasshoppers
2000-01 F.C. Copenhagen
2001 Udinese
2001-03 United Arab Emirates
2004-06 Viking FK
2006- Finland

DaveyCakes
19/10/2007, 3:22 PM
Troussier and his wife Dominique converted to Islam on March 17, 2006 in the Moroccan capital Rabat where they live.

He has taken the name Omar and his wife is no longer Dominique but Amina.

John83
19/10/2007, 3:23 PM
What exactly has Troussier done to warrant being linked with the job? Genuinely don't know who he's coached before and has he coached any team of note recently?
He's had a number of successful stints with international sides. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Troussier

OwlsFan
19/10/2007, 3:23 PM
What exactly has Troussier done to warrant being linked with the job? Genuinely don't know who he's coached before and has he coached any team of note recently?

Teams coached

INF Vichy (1983-1984)
CS Alencon (1984-1987)
Red Star 93 (1987-1989)
ASEC Abidjan (1989-92)
Côte d'Ivoire national football team (1993)
Kaizer Chiefs (1994)
CA Rabat (1994-1995)
FUS Rabat (1995-1997)
Nigeria national football team (1997)
Burkina Faso national football team (1997-1998)
South Africa national football team (1998)
Japan national football team (1998-2002)
Qatar national football team (2003-2004)
Olympique de Marseille (2004-2005)
Morocco national football team (2005)

Burkina Faso: should be good experience for taking over Stan's Ireland ;)

Dr. Ogba
19/10/2007, 3:29 PM
He's had a number of successful stints with international sides. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Troussier


not exactly a top-class list of national sides though...

Thanks but no thanks Omar!

Armando
19/10/2007, 4:20 PM
Always thought the guy was a waffler (reminded me of David Pleat) but I agree that's not a reason to go against him. He certainly has had a varied coaching career and did a Big Jack with Switzerland between 1992-95 but he doesn't stay any place very long which isn't a good sign. Presumably also he'd have to be bought out of his Finnish contract. They're doing ok under him in their group (20 pts from 12 games and in 4th place ahead of Belgium).


[edit] Coaching career
1976-80 Halmstads BK
1980-82 Bristol City
1982-84 Örebro SK
1984-89 Malmö FF
1989-92 Neuchâtel Xamax
1992-95 Switzerland
1995-97 Internazionale
1997-98 Blackburn Rovers
1999 Internazionale
1999-2000 Grasshoppers
2000-01 F.C. Copenhagen
2001 Udinese
2001-03 United Arab Emirates
2004-06 Viking FK
2006- Finland

He is contracted with the Finns for the Euro 2008 campaign, so could be available as early as Nov21st. I'd imagine we could approach him before that and try get it done and dusted. That's what England were going to do with Scolari.

geysir
19/10/2007, 4:34 PM
Troussier's time for the Ireland job was when Mick resigned/forced out.
He was fresh from some success and some adulation with Japan. He had no baggage with our civil war and spoke (maybe too) openly about the priority of getting Keane back. At that time he looked to be a dose of fresh air.
That time is gone, in the meantime his eccentricities are more to the fore.

mattie
19/10/2007, 4:58 PM
Please not Roy Hodgson - reason Blackburn got relegated from the premiership

finnpark
19/10/2007, 5:03 PM
I think it is between:

Mr Delaney's cousin
Mr Delaney's son in law
Mr Delaney's wife (Favourite)
Mr Delaney's other friend (Mr Merson)

Armando
19/10/2007, 5:16 PM
Please not Roy Hodgson - reason Blackburn got relegated from the premiership


That's such a myopic view.
Blackburn qualified for the UEFA cup in his first season and after a bad start to his second he quit when the fans turned against him. It's a slight blip on his CV and not exactly reason enough to disregard him. Do you even know about his abundant achievemants as a coach in various countries?

conlonn
19/10/2007, 7:25 PM
New Ireland manager has to be an outsider not Irish and not a previous player. They need someone with an outside, holistic view to clear out the baggage there now and play players in positions they play for their clubs every week and also to drop out of team and squad the players who are not performing (example Robbie keane)
Troussier or Hodgson or Beenhakker or Klinsmann or Van Gaal or any outsider would be an excellent choice. all have long periods of experience at international or big big clubs unlike that clown gimp we have now. all these afore mentioned would command the respect of the players which at this stage after Kerr and Stan (Ginger gimp) is badly needed.

However the root cause of the current problem is that slimey spin doctor of bull %hit John Delaney who should be tied to chair and made watch hour after to hour of good quality international football p[layed by Brazil, Argentina, Brazil et al, then forced to watch Ireland over the last 18 months over and over.

Paddy Garcia
19/10/2007, 9:48 PM
If Stan takes severance pay he is robbing the Irish supporters. And his place in our history will be seriously dented.

In fact he should pay back all his earnings and maybe some compensation for the damage he has done.

Superhoops
19/10/2007, 9:53 PM
I deleted the above message because I don;t want to get anyone in trouble, let's just say Superhoops don't be so naive.

Can you elaborate on this?

All the hype on here and other places about banners, protests outside Merrion Square, black tee shirts/pink jumpers etc. etc is totally immaterial. John Delaney, as CEO of the FAI is not answerable to a 'mob'. However, under the consititution of the FAI he is answerable to the National Council, a body constituted of nominees from the football community in Ireland.

I read on another thread here a response from Gerry McDermott to another foot.ie member which more of less says the same thing. While McDermott may be putting an FAI spin on this, I have no such agenda and was simply pointing out that Delaney does not run the FAI single handedly and without reference to anyone else.

Previous CEO's, Rooney, Menton and O'Byrne all were ousted and although Delaney in his role of Honorary Treasurer may have had a hand in these being ousted, he did not do it on his own, he needed the support of those on the FAI National Council, that council being made up of nominees from the clubs, the leagues, schoolboy, university and armed forces football. If the CEO does not have the support of the council then he has to go.

I don't think this is naivety, the is just they way it is. In other words 'dems are the rules'.

Why don't you ask Colm Mahony to comment????

brine3
19/10/2007, 10:17 PM
We need Brian Clough to sort this shower out.

Failing that, Co Adriaanse.

noby
19/10/2007, 10:59 PM
Sneak preview of Sunday's papers:

The Majority of the committee want him out, and believe he will resign with a golden handshake of €400-500K. Sacking him may cost €750K.

Drumcondra 69er
20/10/2007, 10:18 AM
Please not Roy Hodgson - reason Blackburn got relegated from the premiership

Think you'll find that was Brian Kidd.

EastTerracer
20/10/2007, 10:35 AM
Sneak preview of Sunday's papers:

The Majority of the committee want him out, and believe he will resign with a golden handshake of €400-500K. Sacking him may cost €750K.


Stan or Delaney? ...... or both hopefully!

DeLorean
16/08/2017, 1:04 PM
This appeared to be the most substantial Steve Staunton thread, so maybe you can change the title if you wish, Tets. I considered putting it in the former players thread but a 100+ cap player and former manager surely merits his own.

Anyway, I enjoyed this piece from The Opel Jersey website - http://opeljersey.com/new-blog/2017/8/6/staunton-how-incompetent-decision-making-tarnished-one-of-our-greats

seanfhear
16/08/2017, 1:14 PM
I remember Stan the player and his great left foot . I remember how he played in a number of positions for us and alway gave his best .
A great Player for us and we should always remember that .

Have we ever had a better passer of the ball in our defence .

seanfhear
16/08/2017, 1:30 PM
Just came across this while looking at something else .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrNVCPuXIGo

not too shabby.......

geysir
16/08/2017, 1:43 PM
So, he's not gone yet, as in dead and gone?

Just a resurrection of an old thread.

DeLorean
16/08/2017, 1:52 PM
Just came across this while looking at something else .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrNVCPuXIGo

not too shabby.......

That was some goal alright, in what was a massive game at the time. Mark Hughes equalised within minutes I remember and probably changed the course of history.

DeLorean
16/08/2017, 1:53 PM
So, he's not gone yet, as in dead and gone?

Thankfully not... although maybe Tets should treat the title change as urgent. :)

Kingdom
16/08/2017, 1:53 PM
I'm going to say it....I thought he was toxic at centre-half for us, and if Keane was in central midfield he wouldn't have started in the world cup, with Cunningham playing instead. His reward for the leadership and support he showed to Mick Mac was the captaincy and a central defence position.

Fixer82
16/08/2017, 2:11 PM
I remember Stan the player and his great left foot .

Have we ever had a better passer of the ball in our defence .

Possibly Ian Harte?

seanfhear
16/08/2017, 2:47 PM
Possibly Ian Harte?Not a bad shout . Staunton overall a better player and Harte was very one footed . A very good left foot mind .

ArFella
16/08/2017, 2:56 PM
Possibly Ian Harte?

Or Denis Irwin?

Kingdom
16/08/2017, 3:03 PM
Paul McGrath

DeLorean
16/08/2017, 3:05 PM
None of them could pass the ball as far as Big Mick.

seanfhear
16/08/2017, 3:08 PM
I would say that Staunton as a passer was better than all of the above....Its all a matter of opinion .

Jack Charlton was not exactly in favour of passing from the back.....which was when Staunton was at his best so we did not see the best of him in that respect at that time.

At his peak for liverpool he was an outstanding passer of the ball .

Stuttgart88
16/08/2017, 5:54 PM
None of them could trap a ball as far as big Mick

DeLorean
17/08/2017, 8:59 AM
None of them could trap a ball as far as big Mick

Like I heard someone say about Dirk Kuyt once, his second touch is a sliding tackle.

tetsujin1979
17/08/2017, 3:26 PM
Or the big Ron classic "he can trap a ball farther than i can kick it"

KK77
18/08/2017, 11:31 AM
I would say that Staunton as a passer was better than all of the above....Its all a matter of opinion .

Jack Charlton was not exactly in favour of passing from the back.....which was when Staunton was at his best so we did not see the best of him in that respect at that time.

At his peak for liverpool he was an outstanding passer of the ball .

Yes a quality player. Could take a free kick as well.

Paddy Garcia
18/08/2017, 11:55 AM
Mark Lawrenson

geysir
18/08/2017, 12:29 PM
I'm going to say it....I thought he was toxic at centre-half for us, and if Keane was in central midfield he wouldn't have started in the world cup, with Cunningham playing instead. His reward for the leadership and support he showed to Mick Mac was the captaincy and a central defence position.
Blame Keane then:)
You have too many ifs there.
Afair, Cunningham was injured for most of that 2002 wc qual campaign and still wasn't 100% for the Finals. Staunton was in there, not as first choice.
How about another "if" thrown in for good measure, if Staunton had been able to continue playing in that last 16 game and had taken one of the penalties, would Mendieta matter?

seanfhear
18/08/2017, 1:13 PM
We have had some very good player when we can mention Staunton , Irwin , Lawrenson , McGrath and thats only those mentioned in the last page or two.....

OwlsFan
18/08/2017, 4:58 PM
How about another "if" thrown in for good measure, if Staunton had been able to continue playing in that last 16 game and had taken one of the penalties, would Mendieta matter?

Don't mention the war !!