Just so disappointed

[irishbaz]

Hi lads I have as we all have followed this campaign hoping and praying we would qualify for Euro 2008, watching our performances we have just not been good enough. I live in England and the slagging I have had over the past 3-4 weeks has been awful to take as I have no come back. What is the state of Irish sport at the moment our football team, rugby team and to cap it off our under 21s who we destroyed by England last night has left me speechless. The problem is it’s the truth we are not the team we once were, the team who are up and coming are not as good as they once were. Are we living on past glories and performances? I am an Irish fan and not to have my team in another major tournament next year is honestly devastating as I get to hear all the English lads scream there team on year after year where I have another empty summer with some more qualifiers to look forward to (or dread). It’s a bitter pill to swallow and I’m not dealing with it well. GUTTED watching a meaningless game against Cypress

[an_ceannaire]

We have the players, but not the coach.
Give a half decent manager this squad and pick a team, something along these lines
Given
Finnan
Dunne
McShane
O'Brien
Hunt/McGeady
Reid
Reid
Duff
Keane/Long
Doyle/Long

Give that team a right go at the WC with a good manager and we have a shot. But not with Stan "The Gaffa" Staunton

[citizenerased]

yeah very depressing alright..gutting..knowing that ginger clown is in charge for another campaign makes it all the more galling!!

[tetsujin1979]

We have the players, but not the coach.
Give a half decent manager this squad and pick a team, something along these lines
Given
Finnan
Dunne
McShane
O'Brien
Hunt/McGeady
Reid
Reid
Duff
Keane/Long
Doyle/Long

Give that team a right go at the WC with a good manager and we have a shot. But not with Stan "The Gaffa" Staunton
So O'Brien at left full? Andy? Alan? Joey? None of them have ever played there.
Stephen Hunt stands on his right foot, and you'd play him out of position on the right?
Long isn't ahead of Doyle at club level, why should he be ahead of him at international level?

[irishbaz]

an ceannaire I really do want to be childish about this "I WANT US IN THE EURO 2008 FINALS NOW" (thats me shouting) it works for my 2 year old son. I dont want to wait another two and a half years thats the problem always next time.

[irishbaz]

As an addition I am getting totally ****ing slated at work which isn’t helping my mental health just feel like ****ing off home

[awaythelads]

I'm trying to explain to my daughter why we haven't qualified for Euro 08.

[irishbaz]

I have a better one my wifes English my children are born in England and im trying to Explain why she cant buy them English football tops when we havnt qualified and all there friends have them

[paul_oshea]

I have a better one my wifes English my children are born in England and im trying to Explain why she cant buy them English football tops when we havnt qualified and all there friends have them


Now thats a juxtaposition I never thought about.

[irishbaz]

Tell me about it my daughter who is 6 asked me why we don’t qualify for anything it just gets awkward so I have put her in an orphanage (that’s a joke if any of you are social workers)

[Stuttgart88]

I have a better one my wifes English my children are born in England and im trying to Explain why she cant buy them English football tops when we havnt qualified and all there friends have themme too. and even my daughter's irish rugby shirt attracts ridicule over here now too. I can't even use the line "the future's bright" after Turners Cross last night.

Miserable, London.

[Green Tribe]

I have a better one my wifes English my children are born in England and im trying to Explain why she cant buy them English football tops when we havnt qualified and all there friends have them

England haven't qualified yet... ;)

[Morbo]

I have a better one my wifes English my children are born in England and im trying to Explain why she cant buy them English football tops when we havnt qualified and all there friends have them
Damn thats a tough one, explain to her that England are hated all over Europe and your kids would be safer wearing an Irish top if they were in a foreign country than an English top, make it sound like she is putting her kids lives in danger by buying them an English top

[Noelys Guitar]

The real depression will kick in when the tournament starts. Watching sides we know we could and would beat with a proper manager. Duff would have been back. Friendlies to look forward to before the tourney. Mad travel plans. New players would have emerged proving themselves when it really mattered. Instead we have Stan!

[back of the net]

Hi lads I have as we all have followed this campaign hoping and praying we would qualify for Euro 2008, watching our performances we have just not been good enough. I live in England and the slagging I have had over the past 3-4 weeks has been awful to take as I have no come back. What is the state of Irish sport at the moment our football team, rugby team and to cap it off our under 21s who we destroyed by England last night has left me speechless. The problem is it’s the truth we are not the team we once were, the team who are up and coming are not as good as they once were. Are we living on past glories and performances? I am an Irish fan and not to have my team in another major tournament next year is honestly devastating as I get to hear all the English lads scream there team on year after year where I have another empty summer with some more qualifiers to look forward to (or dread). It’s a bitter pill to swallow and I’m not dealing with it well. GUTTED watching a meaningless game against Cypress

i agree to some extent with what ur saying in that it has been guttin to watch - but i do believe we have the players - players that under the right management and administration(delaney take note) we could be paving the way for future qualification and success

[back of the net]

I have a better one my wifes English my children are born in England and im trying to Explain why she cant buy them English football tops when we havnt qualified and all there friends have them

damn man - sorry for you mate - our time will come - keep believing - dont give up the dream

[Delbertt]

The real depression will kick in when the tournament starts. Watching sides we know we could and would beat with a proper manager. Duff would have been back. Friendlies to look forward to before the tourney. Mad travel plans. New players would have emerged proving themselves when it really mattered. Instead we have Stan!

Agree and know wat makes it even worse is that you think that the world cup is another two years away, and we'l not be goin there either as long as stans in charge.

[irishbaz]

The debate is still raging in the house I have used the hated all over the world line and getting an English kit will put them in danger she hasnt gone for that! I still believe we can do something however I aint getting any younger lets hope for the world cup finals.

[Sligo Hornet]

The debate is still raging in the house I have used the hated all over the world line and getting an English kit will put them in danger she hasnt gone for that! I still believe we can do something however I aint getting any younger lets hope for the world cup finals.

Don't worry too much, my two children used to wear England jersies, but without any pressure or persuasion from me, they now only wear the Green (or White Away Shirt )...............taking them on a weekend trip to Paris in 2004 may have helped!;)

[tetsujin1979]

At the end of the day, I wake up every morning and thank God for two things. I'm alive and I'm Irish.
Where do you live that the morning happens at the end of the day ;)

[OwlsFan]

We have the players, but not the coach.
Give a half decent manager this squad and pick a team, something along these lines

Given <--- good player who plays for mid ranking PL team
Finnan <--- good player who plays for Top 4 PL team
Dunne <--- good player who plays for mid ranking PL team
McShane <---Championship player who has just made step up to lowly PL team
O'Brien <---- Assume Joey who has yet to establish himself in lowly PL team
Hunt/McGeady <----- Former plays for lowly PL Team and latter has failed to shine whenever he puts on the green jersey.
Reid <------- Andy failed at SPurs but now playing in Championship.
Reid <--- Stephen. Yet to prove himself due to injury in PL for mid ranked team.
Duff <-------- unlikely to play again
Keane/Long <---------- average PL strikers
Doyle/Long <------- ditto

Give that team a right go at the WC with a good manager and we have a shot. But not with Stan "The Gaffa" Staunton

World beaters ok :rolleyes:

[irishbaz]

I fully agree im proud to be Irish that’s why im so depressed about not qualifying for big tournaments

[irishbaz]

Thank you everyone for your support I think some of my prayers have been answered!

[CollegeTillIDie]

Well Ireland are out of the Competition; Wales are out of the competition; Northern Ireland are almost out of the Competition; Scotland and England could be following all of us on the way out of the competition;

[backstothewall]

We should play each other next summer. Have a mini-league :(

[don ramo]

and if its not bad enough, id say weve slipped down the rankings so much well be lucky if were 4th seeds for the world cup draw, imagine who well get, even if stan goes, the next sorry person the FAI gets will have some challenge on his hands takin over from ginger snaps,
so where was stan when the FAI plucked him up, was it assistant manager in league two, so the next manager will be, a manager in the confrence, in all fairness what the f**k are these idiots doin even being assosciated with our FA

[SuperDave]

We should play each other next summer. Have a mini-league :(

that's actually probably not as bad an idea as it sounds. i mean, it would be four games against our kinda level opposition. in fact, it could be organised as a bi-annual tournament for whatever home nations don't qualify.

[don ramo]

be a good bet we would probably be the first team to play ourselfs:o:(

[SuperDave]

be a good bet we would probably be the first team to play ourselfs:o:(

ireland wales scotland england and n ireland is five teams, therefore four games each.

will never happen mind.

[onephillyhughes]

I just feel so let down tonight, never so badly in my life, from a footballing point of view.

I don't agree with booing your own, never have, never will. Thats all I'm saying about that.

To sit there, watch a bunch of lads knock a ball about, then give it away and let the weaker away side have it, it just sickened me. The complete lack of passion and drive in that team tonight broke my heart. When you follow the boys in green over land and sea, through thick and thin, then become subjected to that absolute dross, its a bit much to take. That performance was a disgrace to the green shirt. Its not just down to the manager, its those players too. Being a 'decent premier league player' will only get you so far if you play with absolutely no heart. I'm just sickened.


As much as I hate mentioning his name, we badly miss a Keane type player to drag us out of that mire tonight.

[SuperDave]

I just feel so let down tonight, never so badly in my life, from a footballing point of view.

I don't agree with booing your own, never have, never will. Thats all I'm saying about that.

To sit there, watch a bunch of lads knock a ball about, then give it away and let the weaker away side have it, it just sickened me. The complete lack of passion and drive in that team tonight broke my heart. When you follow the boys in green over land and sea, through thick and thin, then become subjected to that absolute dross, its a bit much to take. That performance was a disgrace to the green shirt. Its not just down to the manager, its those players too. Being a 'decent premier league player' will only get you so far if you play with absolutely no heart. I'm just sickened.


As much as I hate mentioning his name, we badly miss a Keane type player to drag us out of that mire tonight.

pretty big lack of atmosphere too though. the only people who picked up singing near us when we started singing were three teenage girls. the rest, predominantly fortysomething males, refused to sing.

[onephillyhughes]

only singing I heard was 'stan out' and 'stand up if you want stan out'.

And a crowd of 54,000....are we really that fairweather!

[backstothewall]

54,000 is a big crowd.

Especially to watch that. Denmark had 19,000 tonight

[Dodge]

Well Ireland are out of the Competition; Wales are out of the competition; Northern Ireland are almost out of the Competition; Scotland and England could be following all of us on the way out of the competition;

Best league in the World... EVER!

[Ozymandias]

I just feel so let down tonight, never so badly in my life, from a footballing point of view.

I don't agree with booing your own, never have, never will. Thats all I'm saying about that.


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just out of curiosity ..when enough is enough how do you let the management fai even players know that you are not happy or that this type of performance is unacceptable if you don't boo........I don't agree with booing in general and wouldn't if this was a one off...but this performance is actually what we have come to expect and actually get served up during this campaign ..then booing is perfectly acceptable particularly tyhe way delaney puts spin on criticism...he is in no doubt now how the fans feel

[Armando]

just out of curiosity ..when enough is enough how do you let the management fai even players know that you are not happy or that this type of performance is unacceptable if you don't boo........I don't agree with booing in general and wouldn't if this was a one off...but this performance is actually what we have come to expect and actually get served up during this campaign ..then booing is perfectly acceptable particularly tyhe way delaney puts spin on criticism...he is in no doubt now how the fans feel

I was at the game last night and was thinking about this very thing. In my eyes actively booing your own team during 90 minutes play is definitely wrong. I was raging as much as anyone else but I could not bring myself to booing my own players or booing for any reason while play is going on. I mean there were fans at the game last night booing us when an attack broke down or someone mis controlled a ball...what purpose does that serve? They are not playing **** on purpose.

So, anyway I was thinking is there any other way to show our displeasure other than booing our own team while they are representing us on the pitch and I came up with an idea that definitely would have shown our frustration, but without rallying against our own team during the game.

What if instead of fans leaving early and then flooding out on the final whistle we stayed were we were and chanted for the next 30 minutes 'We want Delaney Out / We want Staunton Out' etc.
This would have got massive coverage because it is not the normal way that these things go down and would sure as hell have got our message across.

I think wheter Staunton is gone or not come the Wales game this is what those of us going to that game should still do. We need to get rid of the powers that be, they can't get away with it yet again - they are destoying the soul of our national team. I am dreading going to that game and having to sit through fans venting their frustrations during the game and getting on our players backs. So, why don't we back the lads during the game and then come the final whistle vent all our frustrations in a 30 minute demonstration?

I think it would be a powerful message and only wish I had thought of it before these home games and got the ball rolling on it because it would have been perfect after last nights shambles.

[onephillyhughes]

I think a rake of 'Delaney out' and 'FAIlure' type banners in Cardiff is a must, since they're not allowed in Croke park....!

[Ireland4ever]

I think a rake of 'Delaney out' and 'FAIlure' type banners in Cardiff is a must, since they're not allowed in Croke park....!

I agree, im heading over to Cardiff and would be on for making up a banner to show our disgust at the current set-up.

[onephillyhughes]

My one should be 'Delaney Out - This IS a Dundalk Protest' :D

[John83]

My one should be 'Delaney Out - This IS a Dundalk Protest' :D
He'd probably fine the club.

I wholeheartedly endorse any anti-Delaney/Staunton flags.

[onephillyhughes]

Probably will alright. We get enough fines for the actions of some idiot fans anyway. Had it in for him for a long time, last years EL business didn't help, but his 'they were probably Dundalk fans' comment after San Marino really boiled my blood. The man is a c*nt of the highest order.

[John83]

Probably will alright. We get enough fines for the actions of some idiot fans anyway. Had it in for him for a long time, last years EL business didn't help, but his 'they were probably Dundalk fans' comment after San Marino really boiled my blood. The man is a c*nt of the highest order.
Boiled your blood? Think of the poor suckers who were accused of being from Dundalk! ;)

And yes, yes he is.

[onephillyhughes]

Don't you have lectures? ;)

[John83]

Don't you have lectures? ;)
Nope.

[John83]

So let me get this straight, anti-Delaney banners are banned at Croke Park?
In practice, though they'd likely deny it if you asked the FAI the question directly.

[Ozymandias]

they will be removed from your person