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depor
09/10/2007, 12:54 PM
so its buckley park friday night, i think we can get a result. earlier this season they gave ramblers a good game up there, i think the pitch was very big which didnt suit ramblers. its a good surface though.
im going up , do ye think there will be a good crowd from cobh or what?
bellavistaman
09/10/2007, 12:59 PM
I'll prob be there depor, surely we should get 30+ down there only 2 hours down the road like. Big game, is it 5 games left including this?
Super-rams
09/10/2007, 1:00 PM
Would be great if a big crowd from Cobh showed up. A win of any kind will do. I think we will have too much for them and come home with 3 points.
don ramo
09/10/2007, 1:01 PM
should be a win, 1-0 8-0 doesnt matter ill take anything, time of the season where performances are gone and results matter more, keep the ball down and be patient, we know we can win, as long as the lads stay calm pass the ball around, and the goal or goals will come,
whos out for us this week is it just barrett or what does anyone know,
im not going anyway ive work:mad:
bellavistaman
09/10/2007, 1:09 PM
Barrett, kearney back and davin back me thinks, serious question, will they get in?
Think Davin could replace Reilly, alright but Mucky and Dub had great games i thought in centre.
If it was moi, which it will be in 30 years, after hendo, :D:D, id rest Gareth he looks tired recently and Mikeys picking up form so id keep him in, Go wit Mike on right, Dub and Kearney in middle(pure merit for Dub) And Mucky on left, Davin for Reilly, and we win 5 nil. :D.
But as they say on soccer am CHANGE IS NOT GOOD. So maybe will be same startin 11, good to have this problem again, we were strugglin for squad since limerick and harps.
rambler14
09/10/2007, 6:03 PM
Barrett, kearney back and davin back me thinks, serious question, will they get in?
If it was moi, which it will be in 30 years, after hendo, :D:D, id rest Gareth he looks tired recently and Mikeys picking up form so id keep him in, Go wit Mike on right, Dub and Kearney in middle(pure merit for Dub) And Mucky on left, Davin for Reilly, and we win 5 nil. :D.
If kearney and dub do start, tell me, who'll hold midfield? that combination will never work!
I'm going down alright. 3 or 4 in the car.
Dont think we can look beyond kearney and mucky now for de midfield barrett still out,davin surly replace reilly and hopefully we"l find a right back on the up der,bout 10 of us goin should be a coach as well but i wont hold out de town just dont support its own.
bellavistaman
10/10/2007, 9:47 AM
Dont think we can look beyond kearney and mucky now for de midfield barrett still out,davin surly replace reilly and hopefully we"l find a right back on the up der,bout 10 of us goin should be a coach as well but i wont hold out de town just dont support its own.
Why do you always feel the need to take a pop at carey. Who won us the match the weekend?? He has bout 6 or 7 goals, not bad at all. I think he's a great player and a credeit to the club.
Super-rams
10/10/2007, 10:22 AM
Why do you always feel the need to take a pop at carey. Who won us the match the weekend?? He has bout 6 or 7 goals, not bad at all. I think he's a great player and a credeit to the club.
Totally agree. Carey gets a lot of unjustified stick from some people. He's as good a right back as I've seen in a long time and wears the captains armband with pride.
Why do you always feel the need to take a pop at carey. Who won us the match the weekend?? He has bout 6 or 7 goals, not bad at all. I think he's a great player and a credeit to the club.
If he hadn"t scored the other night it would have been a below par performance and if you cant see that theres something wrong,he has always been a first div right back and with our current squad he just does not fit in too many errors and bad delivery 80% of the time.Also gutsy or murrey by far the better option for the captaincy should we go up also barrett been local and has had and kept the honour in the past,against wexford and kildare when we needed a leader he was no where.
Super-rams
10/10/2007, 4:33 PM
If he hadn"t scored the other night it would have been a below par performance and if you cant see that theres something wrong,he has always been a first div right back and with our current squad he just does not fit in too many errors and bad delivery 80% of the time.Also gutsy or murrey by far the better option for the captaincy should we go up also barrett been local and has had and kept the honour in the past,against wexford and kildare when we needed a leader he was no where.
In your opinion he was below par, that's not to say he was. In my opinion he's doing the job but as I say that's my opinion. Bellavistaman is of the same opinion as me, that doesn't mean we're right it's just our opinions. It also doesn't mean there's something wrong.
bellavistaman
10/10/2007, 4:44 PM
I think hes actually one of the best players on the team, the other players know hes class, and away from home hes always meant to be class, He plays bad when muppets like some1, start shouting at him for no reason, so called supporters, knocks his confidence. How could guthrie get it, its his 1st season, Murray fair enough, but still young. Barrett discipline could get in the way but is definitly captain material as is mucky and kearney
Rams-07
10/10/2007, 5:00 PM
Think carey is doing ok at right back..would love to see him get forward a bit more and whip in some balls.he can deliver great inswinging crosses..
Think the captaincy is a bit mich for him TBH..dont think you could look further than Kevin Murray as a replacement (not that im looking for one)..His determination and committment would make him an ideal captain in the future.(if we can hold on to him)
don ramo
10/10/2007, 5:20 PM
why is this even up for debate lads carey is doing a bang up job at right back, hes a right back, not right midfield, hes is a brilliant captain and all the players seem to respect him, no reason for bashing here, hes not suppose to get forward all the time, sure why would he have to with the likes of davin and cambridge on the wings, just drop this stupid debate, totally unfair,
don ramo
10/10/2007, 5:22 PM
If he hadn"t scored the other night it would have been a below par performance and if you cant see that theres something wrong,he has always been a first div right back and with our current squad he just does not fit in too many errors and bad delivery 80% of the time.Also gutsy or murrey by far the better option for the captaincy should we go up also barrett been local and has had and kept the honour in the past,against wexford and kildare when we needed a leader he was no where.
what team have you been watchin all season,
bellavistaman
10/10/2007, 7:18 PM
why is this even up for debate lads carey is doing a bang up job at right back, hes a right back, not right midfield, hes is a brilliant captain and all the players seem to respect him, no reason for bashing here, hes not suppose to get forward all the time, sure why would he have to with the likes of davin and cambridge on the wings, just drop this stupid debate, totally unfair,
Exactly
what team have you been watchin all season,
Makes you think.
Been watchin de rams i dont support any other club home or abroad,ive seen him in ballybofey,limerick and the last two home games and he is dropping hopefully i can be proved wrong.Bellavistaman u never fault anything at the club if we go up you do realise we will be thaught harsh lessons in a league with 6 professional clubs and then the likes of longford and co i have seen us up at harps and we could not live with them how we escaped with one conceded is beyond me,this squad will need serious injections of cash and a few more additions the youth system is producing but not a lot of cobh talent when theres an abundance of it up to the under 18s,the club needs fine tuning to progress im open to a bashing here but its reality no need to all agree how brill we playing etc its a forum have an opinion.
4th-div-are-we
10/10/2007, 8:48 PM
shouldn't be a bad crowd from cobh going maybe 30-40 wouldn't be 2 bad i'm going up with 3 others ...carey has been playing great consistent football over the season and is a great captain what more could you want from a captain;he scores goals ,makes plays and organizes the back 4...hes just a top class player/captain....(i dont think davins fit for kilkenny..)
don ramo
10/10/2007, 10:06 PM
Been watchin de rams i dont support any other club home or abroad,ive seen him in ballybofey,limerick and the last two home games and he is dropping hopefully i can be proved wrong.Bellavistaman u never fault anything at the club if we go up you do realise we will be thaught harsh lessons in a league with 6 professional clubs and then the likes of longford and co i have seen us up at harps and we could not live with them how we escaped with one conceded is beyond me,this squad will need serious injections of cash and a few more additions the youth system is producing but not a lot of cobh talent when theres an abundance of it up to the under 18s,the club needs fine tuning to progress im open to a bashing here but its reality no need to all agree how brill we playing etc its a forum have an opinion.
wow two games he is one of the players of the season for me, he is a very good player that contributes a lot to the squad, if he was missing it would be felt in the team, he is well deserving of the armband he wears week in week out,
marty
10/10/2007, 10:49 PM
ballybofey limerick and last two home games,
wow that to me is four.
don ramo
10/10/2007, 10:53 PM
sorry 4
Super-rams
11/10/2007, 7:15 AM
[I]shouldn't be a bad crowd from cobh going maybe 30-40 wouldn't be 2 bad i'm going up with 3 others ..I]
Not getting at you but 30-40 is a bad crowd for a team who is challenging for promotion. I know people find it hard to travel because of work, family etc. but surely a bus should be organised for all our remaining away games. Dundalk will bring more than that down with them next week. The team always respond to the supporters and it would be great to have a decent travelling support like the day we went to Dundalk.
6yardpunisha
11/10/2007, 10:43 AM
Been watchin de rams i dont support any other club home or abroad,ive seen him in ballybofey,limerick and the last two home games and he is dropping hopefully i can be proved wrong.Bellavistaman u never fault anything at the club if we go up you do realise we will be thaught harsh lessons in a league with 6 professional clubs and then the likes of longford and co i have seen us up at harps and we could not live with them how we escaped with one conceded is beyond me,this squad will need serious injections of cash and a few more additions the youth system is producing but not a lot of cobh talent when theres an abundance of it up to the under 18s,the club needs fine tuning to progress im open to a bashing here but its reality no need to all agree how brill we playing etc its a forum have an opinion.
yes we all have an opinion but it just so happens that in relation to Carey everyone else's opinion seems to disagree with your opinion, does this not tell you something. I was at Harps game, do you not realise that we were missing 3 key players(from the smallest squad in the league) as opposed to Harps who were at full strength and had 3000 fans behind them. Stop knocking players, ive seen it first hand at games home and away this season players being abused by rams fans, if fans get behind them it will give them that little bit extra
bellavistaman
11/10/2007, 1:11 PM
Bellavistaman u never fault anything at the club if we go up you do realise we will be thaught harsh lessons in a league with 6 professional clubs and then the likes of longford and co i have seen us up at harps and we could not live with them how we escaped with one conceded is beyond me.
Of course i know how hard it will be, and i do know all that will be required next year, and i couldnt fault anything at the club at the moment, bar the off field antics, which dont matter to me until AGM, or EGm's, its all pathetic IMO, football and the team is my No.1 priority. "we could not live with them how we escaped with one conceded is beyond me", -bull****, straight out, we could have easily won the game, harps fans even said that, its all ifs and buts here f course, but if we scored the peno, got the second peno, if the linesman didnt give the freekick against John Meade....., i seriously dont know where your getting the idea we cant cope with finn harps, we've beaten them twice this season drew one and lost one, and your judging us on the game we lost, I dont think Stephen Henderson will be asking his players next year to cope with the like of Harps, he'll be wanted win and accepting good draws away from hme possibly, but if it is rams and harps go up, harps will be a must win, we should have beaten derry this year too, Look how close we were to Rovers last year, my point is we dont have to cope with harps if we get promoted,we beat harps, if you dont think were good enough to challenge or "cope" then we've a major difference in opinion on the level of ability of the team.
yes we all have an opinion but it just so happens that in relation to Carey everyone else's opinion seems to disagree with your opinion, does this not tell you something. I was at Harps game, do you not realise that we were missing 3 key players(from the smallest squad in the league) as opposed to Harps who were at full strength and had 3000 fans behind them. Stop knocking players, ive seen it first hand at games home and away this season players being abused by rams fans, if fans get behind them it will give them that little bit extra
Correct my point is though when Davin, Mucky Murray etc play bad they dont haveb to put up 1/10th of the **** Alan Carey puts up with and John Meade to to a lesser extent. It all goes back to the typical comment Pick up a RB on the way" Carey might want to stop the bus to pick up somebody who'll support him and the team on the way too. :)
Well seen as though i cant get anyone to agree wit my bias opinions i reacon we should win this by at least 3,all depends on weather dav is fit to partner the ever improving workhorse cummins,its actually disgraceful theres no bus goin.:(shame really
bellavistaman
11/10/2007, 5:36 PM
its actually disgraceful theres no bus goin.:(shame really
Agree with you there mart, if there was interest they might do, but if the club turned around and said they ****ed up thyeir chance at dundalk what could you say back?
Rams-07
11/10/2007, 6:35 PM
Been watchin de rams i dont support any other club home or abroad,ive seen him in ballybofey,limerick and the last two home games and he is dropping hopefully i can be proved wrong.Bellavistaman u never fault anything at the club if we go up you do realise we will be thaught harsh lessons in a league with 6 professional clubs and then the likes of longford and co i have seen us up at harps and we could not live with them how we escaped with one conceded is beyond me,this squad will need serious injections of cash and a few more additions the youth system is producing but not a lot of cobh talent when theres an abundance of it up to the under 18s,the club needs fine tuning to progress im open to a bashing here but its reality no need to all agree how brill we playing etc its a forum have an opinion.
Must say marty you have valid points there,espcially when you say we would need a big injection of cash..think that would be one of the main cosencus of opinion among the supporters..dont know if the people who were supposed to become directors are still around or not,but without people to inject money into the team we are in a no win situation..dont know how we would finance a premier div team,as this year the crowds have been poor when we are top of the league.imagine what it would be like if we were bottom..
Well it is a friday maybe not suited we"ll see the loyalty when we get there,on a saturday i"d prop fill a 24 seater with fellas i know and none of these were in dundalk a bus should at least be an option anyway.The main worrie i have bout not gaining promotion is keeping the squad with city wathin our every move theres a business we cant compete with financially.
Rambler1
11/10/2007, 8:31 PM
I think hes actually one of the best players on the team, the other players know hes class, and away from home hes always meant to be class, He plays bad when muppets like some1, start shouting at him for no reason, so called supporters, knocks his confidence. How could guthrie get it, its his 1st season, Murray fair enough, but still young. Barrett discipline could get in the way but is definitly captain material as is mucky and kearney Agree totally...
don ramo
11/10/2007, 11:10 PM
shut up about money, money, money, money, were not up yet so it not a concern yet, worry about it when it comes up, some people who want money now didnt want the directors a few months ago, make a decision and stick with it, if you're that concerened, well just go back to MSL, and save for a few years,
finances wont be in for a few months so dont bother with this stuff now,
5 games to go thats priority one not money,
winning.
Rambler1
12/10/2007, 8:41 AM
Lads I think kickoff is at 7.30 and not 8pm as advertised
Cici900
13/10/2007, 4:09 PM
100-120 from cobh there thats fairly good. apparently great night too. tore them apart with one touch football and 7 goals? thats just brilliant
don ramo
13/10/2007, 4:18 PM
great stuff lads well done, would be nice to do it against dundalk, am i asking to much:D
congrats lads :ball::ball:
6yardpunisha
13/10/2007, 4:41 PM
great stuff lads well done, would be nice to do it against dundalk, am i asking to much:D
congrats lads :ball::ball:
dont think you are, dont think any team would fancy having to play away against a team that have just set the eircom league record for an away victory. With the good work of Marco and the way the team are playing there should be a massive crowd next sat and as we saw with harps a big crowd behind a team can only spur them on.
Must say marty you have valid points there,espcially when you say we would need a big injection of cash..think that would be one of the main cosencus of opinion among the supporters..dont know if the people who were supposed to become directors are still around or not,but without people to inject money into the team we are in a no win situation..dont know how we would finance a premier div team,as this year the crowds have been poor when we are top of the league.imagine what it would be like if we were bottom..
Thanks for the confidence vote, maybe we should get promoted first I think that might help:rolleyes:
Thanks for the confidence vote, maybe we should get promoted first I think that might help:rolleyes:
Dont think that was a pop at you its just the cobh public have not witnessed first hand the attractive style of football we play so its hard to get them in the gate,surely after next week we can get 1500 in and show off the stand the football will take care of itself,on last nights match we were outstanding all the way through gonna be hard to get dav and battett bak in to the team i reacon we can take dundalk lets hope harps will slip along the way.
Dunny
13/10/2007, 11:03 PM
dont think you are, dont think any team would fancy having to play away against a team that have just set the eircom league record for an away victory. With the good work of Marco and the way the team are playing there should be a massive crowd next sat and as we saw with harps a big crowd behind a team can only spur them on.
You dont think hes asking to much for a scoreline like that against Dundalk?? what are you on?!?...just because you beat the team at the bottom of the league by that scoreline does not mean you will do it against a team 3 points behind you!
well i thought it was well worth the trip, played very well. i think limericks behaviour is a disgrace, they are so petty its sad. the talk is that they didnt play up to 7 first team players, and played u21's. thats mcGee all out, hes bitter over the last minute winner a few months ago, when he accused us of being a long ball side after L37 spent the whole second half of that game lying on the ground trying to slow the game up,and then we punished them, dundalk did the exact same thing and they too got punished. all the teams come to cobh to disrupt and dont even attempt to play, with all their talk.
they should get pulled up for that if its definitley true. anyway, once again well done to the ramblers for a great performance.
Rambler1
14/10/2007, 1:02 AM
Dont think that was a pop at you its just the cobh public have not witnessed first hand the attractive style of football we play so its hard to get them in the gate,surely after next week we can get 1500 in and show off the stand the football will take care of itself,on last nights match we were outstanding all the way through gonna be hard to get dav and battett bak in to the team i reacon we can take dundalk lets hope harps will slip along the way. BTW....will the stand or a section of it be ready for the Dundalk game and if so will we be in it or them.
Rambler1
14/10/2007, 1:05 AM
well i thought it was well worth the trip, played very well. i think limericks behaviour is a disgrace, they are so petty its sad. the talk is that they didnt play up to 7 first team players, and played u21's. thats mcGee all out, hes bitter over the last minute winner a few months ago, when he accused us of being a long ball side after L37 spent the whole second half of that game lying on the ground trying to slow the game up,and then we punished them, dundalk did the exact same thing and they too got punished. all the teams come to cobh to disrupt and dont even attempt to play, with all their talk.
they should get pulled up for that if its definitley true. anyway, once again well done to the ramblers for a great performance.
Heard a lot of them were injured or suspended , Purcell, Kelleher Barrett etc so if that was the case then any team would be weakened without 3 or 4 of their main players and they did well to limit it to 1-0 until late on.
6yardpunisha
14/10/2007, 11:40 AM
You dont think hes asking to much for a scoreline like that against Dundalk?? what are you on?!?...just because you beat the team at the bottom of the league by that scoreline does not mean you will do it against a team 3 points behind you!
he meant 3 points
marty
14/10/2007, 12:34 PM
BTW....will the stand or a section of it be ready for the Dundalk game and if so will we be in it or them.
AFAIK, a section will be open and the rest will be ready for the following home game,im a die hard terrace spectator but would love nothing more to be glancing across at a full stand.
Sniffer
14/10/2007, 3:08 PM
Anybody out there got team line-ups, sub info for this one please - nothing in the usual places.
rambler14
14/10/2007, 3:17 PM
McCarthy
Carey Guthrie Murray Meade
Cambridge Muckie Kearney O'Shea
O'Reilly Cummins
subs: C Meade on for O'Shea, King on for Kearney and Kerins on for O'Reilly
Sniffer
14/10/2007, 3:29 PM
Very impressive and much appreciated, but now I'm going to be a pr1ck. Any idea when those substitutions took place?
rambler14
14/10/2007, 3:33 PM
69,79 and 81
in that order for the subs above.
Sniffer
14/10/2007, 4:25 PM
Thanks again!;)
Rams-07
14/10/2007, 4:48 PM
Thanks for the confidence vote, maybe we should get promoted first I think that might help:rolleyes:
Wasnt having a go at you there Marco..Why would I..If it wasnt for you no-one would know theres a match on..
Just venting my frustration at the lack of local support towards the team..;)
4th-div-are-we
15/10/2007, 6:39 PM
Not getting at you but 30-40 is a bad crowd for a team who is challenging for promotion. I know people find it hard to travel because of work, family etc. but surely a bus should be organised for all our remaining away games. Dundalk will bring more than that down with them next week. The team always respond to the supporters and it would be great to have a decent travelling support like the day we went to Dundalk.
i suppose i was under estimating....but there was a great crowd up there 2 or 3 cobh fans singing outsang the kilkenny fans..kilkennt were very poor...
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