John Joe O'Toole [Archive] - Page 3

youngirish

22/09/2008, 9:17 AM

I cannot understand why Lee Carsley isn't even in the squad, never mind starting at central midfield over Glenn Whelan.

Don't see what all the clamour regarding Carsley not being in the squad is about. He was a very limited player imo. He stuck the boot in but in a creative and attacking sense he was a non entity. I don't think we've suffered due to his exclusion. Onwards and upwards I say.

Hopefully now Miller will follow and lose his place in the squad to one of the aformentioned young players that are at present not regulars in our squads.

geysir

22/09/2008, 10:25 AM

Glad to hear JJ is making waves and has a knack for scoring the spectacular.

Sligo Hornet

22/09/2008, 11:06 AM

Jon Joe's goal.......and the other "goal":eek:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLTz2U9RfmM

Sligo Hornet

24/09/2008, 6:40 AM

After scoring in each of the last 4 home games, John Joe failed to hit the net last night in the win over West Ham:(.....................but as he never played, we'll let him off:D

Ash

24/09/2008, 7:13 AM

After scoring in each of the last 4 home games, John Joe failed to hit the net last night in the win over West Ham:(.....................but as he never played, we'll let him off:D

Thats no excuse ... if he was good enough he would have found a way to score :D

Sligo Hornet

24/09/2008, 7:39 AM

Thats no excuse ... if he was good enough he would have found a way to score :D

How's your back?

Ash

24/09/2008, 8:28 AM

How's your back?

Almost back in action, Cheers ...
Went "light" trianing the other day and was able to walk away after it :p
Still waiting on Ballinasloe to send me my medical records to see how they
missed that part of my spine was out of place :eek: (kinda)

Starting my coaching certs next week incase I have to hang up the gloves and boots!

humpmeister7

24/09/2008, 11:54 AM

John Joe has started off well this season. It finally looks like he has earned the right to in Aidy's first pick. With our forever expanding injury list (watford that is), it will be interesting to see if he can keep his place. I for one have been calling for him too be starting at Watford for some time but many home fans are still unsure.

Give him 2-3 years and he could be battling for that ireland shirt, depending on who he is playing for!

Also, it might be an idea for him to quit his job at scrooges in Mainz.
Could that be where all our money has gone................

NeilMcD

24/09/2008, 12:53 PM

I know Saint Tom is a big fan anyway

aidz1

28/09/2008, 9:49 PM

jj scores another goal for watford yesterday.
seems to be on a rich vein of goalscoring

humpmeister7

30/09/2008, 7:36 PM

Another decent performance from John on sat. Another goal to add to his already impressive tally. Listening to the commentry on tonights game and it seems like Aidy is playing him just behind our lone striker. No goals...yet

Sligo Hornet

21/10/2008, 7:58 PM

JJ scored again after 2 mins at Watford against Cardiff tonight!!:)

humpmeister7

26/10/2008, 1:05 PM

Another goal for John Joe yesterday. Had another great header cleared off the line. He seems to be really growing up this year. Lets hope his great start doesn't go to his head.

geysir

26/10/2008, 3:19 PM

The Gods were always going to smile on JJ for the rest of his football life after that debut goal for us against Bulgaria.

macdermesser

30/10/2008, 7:48 AM

According to the BBC gossip, Newcastle want to sign him in the transfer window.

shakermaker1982

30/10/2008, 8:25 AM

how much would JJ go for? 2-3 million?

third policeman

30/10/2008, 8:26 AM

According to the BBC gossip, Newcastle want to sign him in the transfer window.

Would be a great move, and it kind of underscores the point that Premiership managers are making different judgements about our players than Trapp, Brady, Givens, Tardelli. We're picking players who cannot get into their Premiership club sides, whilst Premiership managers are chasing players who cannot get into ours? I would expect to see Garvan, O'Toole,and McCann all playing in the Premiership before next season, by which time it will be too late to integrate them into our international team. We'll end end up being stuck with the likes of Whelan, Andrews, Gibson and even Potter!!!!!!

dublinred

30/10/2008, 8:38 AM

Was at the Watford v Wolves game on sat and thought he looked good and defo has got the potential took his goal well whic was his 7th fo the season from midfield, would prefer to see him develop at a small club like watford for another season before making the step up as he could get lost in a premierleague reserve team.

jbyrne

30/10/2008, 8:51 AM

We're picking players who cannot get into their Premiership club sides, whilst Premiership managers are chasing players who cannot get into ours?

all just rumour, nothing more. when/if they get their transfers and show they are up to it then they should be called up and not before. have been hearing about garvan for a few years now yet he is still playing for a mid table championship side. the jury is still out

with regards to Irelands management, given our decent start i would trust their judgement on team selection to date

Sligo Hornet

30/10/2008, 9:39 AM

richieos

30/10/2008, 3:45 PM

Pretty much all the papers in england this morning report that Newcastle are chasing John Joe. Good move for him? good chance to see if he can cut it in the premiership and newcastle will have a player with real heart..

third policeman

30/10/2008, 4:31 PM

all just rumour, nothing more. when/if they get their transfers and show they are up to it then they should be called up and not before. have been hearing about garvan for a few years now yet he is still playing for a mid table championship side. the jury is still out

with regards to Irelands management, given our decent start i would trust their judgement on team selection to date

I think Garvan's lengthy absence with glandular feaver may have delayed what looked like an imminent move to THe Premiership (Everton had made an offer but were not willing to pay the �5 million that Ipswich were demanding).

I would still prefer to see players who are excelling at Championship level playing ahead of guys who are playing reserve team football. If we had established Premiership players then I would agree with you but we dont.
I think its also a bit difficult to argue that the results justify the selection. We have been playing against pretty mediocre opposition and the performances (except agianst Georgia perhaps) have not been especially impressive particularly in the last game where Cyprus monopolised midfield posession. There is only one way of establishing whether the likes of O'Toole, McCann or Garvan would perform better and that is playing them against Poland.

jbyrne

30/10/2008, 4:53 PM

I think its also a bit difficult to argue that the results justify the selection. We have been playing against pretty mediocre opposition and the performances (except agianst Georgia perhaps) have not been especially impressive particularly in the last game where Cyprus monopolised midfield posession.

yes you can. we had one point after three games in the last campaign but have 7 from 9 in this. we were good for long parts of the potentially tricky match in montenegro. we havent been brilliant or very entertaining but what counts above everything else is that we qualify for the wc whether we play well or not. so far so good on that front

third policeman

31/10/2008, 7:08 AM

yes you can. we had one point after three games in the last campaign but have 7 from 9 in this. we were good for long parts of the potentially tricky match in montenegro. we havent been brilliant or very entertaining but what counts above everything else is that we qualify for the wc whether we play well or not. so far so good on that front

My point was that results cannot prove that the players selected are better that the players who weren't selected. We might have done better against Cyprus with a Garvan / McCann pairing. There again we might not. The point is that it is only be giving these players a chance against Poland that we are going to find out whether they are good enough.

Ordinary Fan

31/10/2008, 8:07 AM

It is good for players to move up a level but I don't see Bewcastle signing anyone unless there is a change of owner. The manager is only there on a temporey basis at the moment.

Stuttgart88

31/10/2008, 12:23 PM

You can see the headlines: John-Joe O'Toon...

passinginterest

31/10/2008, 12:24 PM

John Joins Joe's O'Tooney Army

You read it here first!

Kingdom

31/10/2008, 12:36 PM

John Joins Joe's O'Tooney Army

You read it here first!

I'm struggling reading that nevermind trying to say it!

The Fly

25/02/2009, 5:00 PM

Over on eleven-a-side, it's reported that he has been loaned out to Sheff Utd.
Can anyone confirm this?

edit: ^ Oops! Just read the Irish Abroad thread. Apologies.

Anyway, does anyone know why he has been loaned out? It seems odd given his early season promise.

SkStu

25/02/2009, 5:42 PM

from my reading it sounded like financial problems for Watford??

from the skysports article:

"Watford boss Brendan Rodgers revealed during the January transfer window that he was hoping to keep O'Toole at Vicarage Road, despite the club's financial predicament.

However, O'Toole has now headed to South Yorkshire, although he will be ineligible for Thursday's FA Cup fifth-round replay against Hull City."

Stuttgart88

12/09/2009, 8:55 PM

Where is JJ these days?

He finished last season on loan at Sheff United, and was injured for the play off final I think.

Stuttgart88

12/09/2009, 9:16 PM

answering my own question: on loan at Colchester in L1, under Aidy Boothroyd, his old Watford manager. Long way from being bought by Newcastle when they were still in the PL.

Pretty disappointing background on JJOT on the Watford forums, if true:

http://www.wfcforums.com/showthread.php?t=30200

Irish_Praha

12/09/2009, 9:18 PM

Where is JJ these days?

He finished last season on loan at Sheff United, and was injured for the play off final I think.

Bit of a strange one but he's on loan at Colchester until January.
I thought he would be at least good enough to play in the Championship. Unusual that Watford don't want him playing for them.

Irish_Praha

12/09/2009, 9:27 PM

Colbert Report

12/09/2009, 9:42 PM

Sounds like a total moron.

OwlsFan

13/09/2009, 8:14 AM

I saw JJ play a few times in teh Championship and I thought he was a good prospect. Perhaps Sligo Hornet can fill us in here unless he's off down the boozer with JJOT ;) ?

NeilMcD

13/09/2009, 12:52 PM

I bet JJOT is buying the drink too.

philliyk

13/09/2009, 1:01 PM

Something must defo be up with him cause I know Blackwell was determined to sign him up in the summer & even talk of an agreed deal at the time of the T.Smith fiasco but the move was put on hold due to the ongoing injury he had then all went quiet & I just assumed Blackwell was waiting on the injury to go away before signing - never saw nowt about a move to colchester

elroy

13/09/2009, 5:18 PM

hes only 20 so theres hope for him. Its unfortunate how many of our young players go this route, suppose its in our nature, the thorntons immediately come to mind. The overall consensus on the watford site seems to be that he has bucketloads of potential but major lack of professionalism.

Scooby Doo

13/09/2009, 5:39 PM

is he actually a traveller?

Stuttgart88

13/09/2009, 5:47 PM

Was he in the U21 squad against Estonia?

Actually, anyone know what the starting XI and squad was for that game? It wasn't in the match thread.

FarBeag

13/09/2009, 6:07 PM

Republic of Ireland Under-21 v Estonia:

Shane Redmond

Scott Davies

Brendan Moloney

Michael Spillane

Ian Bermingham

Stephen Gleeson

Owen Garvan (capt.)

James McCarthy

Alan Judge

Cillian Sheridan

Jay O�Shea

shakermaker1982

13/09/2009, 8:42 PM

I remember when there was talk of him going to join Newcastle last January. It's sad if these stories are true i.e. gets wasted 4 nights a week but he is still young and maybe Boothroyd can sort him out. Colchester might be the wake up call he needs.

paul_oshea

13/09/2009, 10:04 PM

the lad obviously never texted ron burgundy :rolleyes:

Heard that he turned his back on a lot of the gaelic lads he used play with and go to school with as well so id say there is truth in what they are saying. But the friends of friends stuff i wouldn't pay too much heed to. Also that burgundy fella sounds like a tw@t going on a forum telling people what his "friends" have been telling him.

NeilMcD

13/09/2009, 10:59 PM

To be fair if I lived in Watford I would be on the lash all the time as its so close to Luton :)

paul_oshea

14/09/2009, 8:27 AM

And because hornet lives there too :D

ifk101

14/09/2009, 8:54 AM

Sad to hear.

Sligo Hornet

14/09/2009, 9:02 AM

After several breaches of Club discipline (involving drinking) Brendan Rodgers dropped him from the first team squad. After Rodgers left we hoped JJ would get another chance under Malky Mackay, but it seems he let himself down again, and Malky confirmed at a Fan's Forum I attended last week he would not feature under his management due to his "poor attitude and lack of professionalism"

Maybe Aidy Boothroyd can sort him out because he is undoubtedly a lad with great talent

MuckaTucka

15/04/2010, 1:45 PM

John Joe ruptured a cruciate ligament on Tuesday and is likely to be out for up to 9 months. Terrible injury to have for a young player. He's been an ever present for Colchester who have been near the top of League One all year.

BBC Sport O'Toole ruled out until 2011 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/colchester_united/8622230.stm)