Rovers Away

[Patrick Dunne]

We have to get four points from our next two games, both at home.
A draw against Pats (at least) and Longford is a must win.

The return in the form of results from the first team has been very poor.
When you are outclassed by a part-time side, questions have to be asked.

Rovers fitness levels and preparation are far better than ours. They have scored four goals against
us in the last five minutes of our three matches this season.

One would expect the opposite to be the case.

[geezer]

according to the analyst on radio 1 , they called o brien lazy, the team limited, it was also said the united team looked uninterested and completely lacked any sort of concentration and absolutely no game plan. The guy ended up apologising for his comments but said he had to speak the truth.

Now if we are "professional" we shouldnt be swithing off, lazy or uninterested for starters. This bunch are not acting,thinking or behaving like professionals but remember are taking the wages. We cant afford this next season. Rovers for heaven sake are part time

[Conor H]

Pathetic performance last night.
Once again our "professionals" were outclassed by a bunch of part timers who had more desire,tactically more aware and much fitter and sharp.

Tony Cousins tactics-what were they?We hoofed the ball all night long.....didn't have one shot on target,failed to make any passes etc etc.
Why don't we have a Coach?Our Managerial set up consists of an inexperienced manager,a Goalkeeping Coach and a fitness Coach.

Why was David Cooke playing ahead of Robson?
Stephen O Flynn is the biggest waster in a long time to play for UTD.
Murphy isn't half the player he was.
Derek glynn has looked very average in the last few weeks.

Once again we're back in he mix of it.6 points is a must against pats and Longford.

For people who weren't there......think back to the performance against Waterford.. multiply it by 10.....and you're not half way there.That's how bad it was.


Rovers players go back to work......our's go back to been treated like royalty.

[Square Heir]

Pathetic performance last night.
Tony Cousins tactics-what were they?We hoofed the ball all night long.....didn't have one shot on target,failed to make any passes etc etc.
Why don't we have a Coach?Our Managerial set up consists of an inexperienced manager,a Goalkeeping Coach and a fitness Coach.

Why was David Cooke playing ahead of Robson?
Stephen O Flynn is the biggest waster in a long time to play for UTD.
Murphy isn't half the player he was.
Derek glynn has looked very average in the last few weeks.



Tony Cousins tactics generally seem to be 'get the ball into the other half by whatever means and hope we'll pick up the scraps'. As for Alan Murphy, he looks as if he has been wearing a 'tactical straight jacket' this season.
I really think if a decent manager had the squad and opportunity to prepare for matches that TC does, then we wouldn't be in a situation like this. I hope the board are at least considering replacements.

[Ceirtlis]

United were fairly desperate last night. Like has been said already loads of long balls but the thing was they were really bad long balls that the strikers didnt have a hope of doing anything with, so i find it hard to blame them. I felt a bit sorry for Derek Glynn going off early because he was given nothing to work with, he is only good when he is facing the opposition goals or in a straight race with a defender. A few players didnt show up at all. Robson should have been playing from the start as well imo.

[geezer]

we are "building" the only players good enough as premier players for next season are Rogers,fitzgerald and regi in my opinion, Id have glynn, Keane & russell because they are young, have some potential and are local. The rest are 1st division material at best.
The club seriously needs to ask itself hard questions if we survive this season to ensure its massive investment doesnt go down the swanny.

[Tir Oilean]

Wasnt at the match so wont comment but sounds like the same old **** different day. Its becoming very frustrating watchin an ok performance one week and an abysmal one the next. Its squeaky bum time now with a massive game against Longford on the way. At the moment Im not confident we can survive, simply because the team has no passion for the club we love. Longford's run wasnt going to last forever but they are in with a major chance now. As with last years situation of not knowin which division we will be in I'm sure that the board has two budgets ready to implement for next season.

[JC_GUFC]

It was a terrible performance and Tony admitted as much, he said we were only lucky to lose by 4 and that most of the players looked uninterested.

We were terrible in possession and at the back we were poor. I thought Fitzgerland had a bad game and like the whole season we have no left back. Wes is a serious liability in that position because he has absolutely no pace and any have decent winger will have a field day.

I thought Robson did OK when he came on and absolutely clattered a Rovers player after about 30 seconds! It's too easy to say he should start instead of Cooke as I doubt he can play on the right.

It's hard to take any positives from the game at all but at least Waterford only gained a point and all other teams lost.

[gilberto_eire]

this crap has annoyed me a few times but he persists in doing it...... right whatever about pre-injury to Regi, but when reggie went off if Wes had to come on put him CB with fitzy move lester up to midfield and greg back to left back

Keane Wes Fitzy O'Halloren
'' lester '' ''

why cant the simple changes be made sometimes instead of having 3/4 players out of position especially when it means a giant with no pace or passing ability at wing back!!

[Paddyfield]

Match report from Rovers' website
www.shamrockrovers.ie
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Andy Myler took another match ball home with him as a final flourish to the game saw the Hoops hit the Tribesmen for four. However after a good start, Rovers lost their way a little and Mylers opening goal just before the break was badly needed. Padraig Amond started at number nine and shot just wide after 2 minutes. A minute later Danny O'Connor threaded a through ball for Amond but Rogers in the visitors goal won the race to the ball. Amond was the provider after six minutes when he found Myler in the box but the Hoops number ten dragged his shot wide from close range.

Galways early contribution saw Lesters free-kick hit the wall and an audacious overhead kick was straight at Murphy. A mistake in the visitors defence in the 21st minute almost put Amond through but Rogers again advanced to block. Four minutes later Myler chipped a through ball for Amond and the Carlow man did well to get past Rogers but a defender got across to clear.

Some good defending from O'Brien cleared a dangerous cross in the 29th minute. The Rovers defender then sent in a free-kick that Myler met but headed wide. Another O'Brien free-kick found Ferguson in the box a minute later but again the header was off-target. The game had gone dead when the Hoops won a corner in the 43rd minute and John Martin sent in a deep cross that Myler chested down and slammed a shot into the roof of the net for a fine goal.

The second half saw Amond again cause problems for the Galway defence firstly forcing a defender to knock the ball just past his own post and then running on to a Doyle ball before a defender got back to clear. A Martin free-kick was volleyed over by Myler on 56 minutes. A minute later the visitors had their best chance when the lively Murphy got around Ferguson in the box and fired in a low cross that O'Flynn just failed to get a touch on.

Myler forced Rogers to save from a corner in the 61st minute but five minutes later the Hoops doubled their lead when a quickly taken free-kick saw Martin fire in a cross that Amond headed down into the ground and into the corner of the net. Galway were never at the races after that and Danny O'Connor turned and shot just wide on 70 minutes.

As the game entered the final five minutes the Hoops really turned the screw with Myler shooting wide on the right and substitute Purcell shooting just wide from a similiar position. Amond found Myler in acres of space in the box on 89 minutes and he coolly slipped the ball past Rogers. The game had entered stoppage time and with Galway on the ropes Myler again was found in space and he slotted home his hat-trick goal in style.

[Conor H]

[QUOTE=JC_GUFC;772161]It was a terrible performance and Tony admitted as much, he said we were only lucky to lose by 4 and that most of the players looked uninterested.
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Classic TC.

Tell everyone what they want to hear.If he came out and said we were unlucky people would really be annoyed.Instead he plays the cute angle of siding with the supporters.Not the 1st time he's played this card.Sick of it at this stage.

Priority is to keep us up and then get a proper management structure in place for next season.Otherwise we'll definitely be in the bottom three.

[corbyeire]

i honestly think that if we went in 0-0 at half time it wouldnt have been 4-0

its true rovers were camped down in utds 18 yard area - but didnt look like scoring with all the crosses and corners free kicks etc. they had for most of the first half

it was when regi went off that things looked shaky - but even at that - frustration would have mounted for rovers - not being able to convert

for their first goal what a crushing blow for us - but all being said a front post header flicked on, was allowed to bounce and come down and then hit on the volley

4 united players paused to watch and marvel at this phenomenon

utd gave it a go for 15mins in the second half - until rovers took their second - this is what has me thinking that they could have played a lot better but just dropped the heads - way to easily

murphy did cut a nice ball across the box - but noone thought it was worth running into the area to tap in

long ball the call of the day again

wes not a wing back - the last 2 goals came through him - with central defenders coming to the wings, to cover - leaving big holes for the midfield and rovers forwards to walk through

derek glynn does not offer much if all you can do is play a ball for him to run onto to take a defender on at pace - he needs more to his game

i know the long ball is no good to him - but he doesnt seem to be working too hard either - oflynn and faherty were annonymous - again

no one taking control or looking for it in midfield

a big confidence killer this one id say

[gufct]

Maybe a kick in the ass is what we all needed Corby rather than a confidence killer. I agree with your post more than some of the over the top stuff. I agree we never looked like conceeding until Flynny lost myler in the area 2 mins before half time and their 2nd was a killer because we were still in the game but the last 2 were down to the players switching off and losing heart.

Even Fitzgerald had a bad game which maybe shows it was a one off. We have just come off the back of 5 great results and to start hammering the team again is slightly over the top.

[Conor H]

Maybe a kick in the ass is what we all needed Corby rather than a confidence killer. I agree with your post more than some of the over the top stuff. I agree we never looked like conceeding until Flynny lost myler in the area 2 mins before half time and their 2nd was a killer because we were still in the game but the last 2 were down to the players switching off and losing heart.

Even Fitzgerald had a bad game which maybe shows it was a one off. We have just come off the back of 5 great results and to start hammering the team again is slightly over the top.

gufct everyone would have expected you to come out with the tinted glasses stuff again.

It was a shambles from start to finish.This team are full time.Where was/is the evidence of that all season?
People are entitled to be harsh on them considering all that is done for them.It was a paltry effort with no tactics,pride or passion.
5 great results garnered a whopping 7 points out of 15.We're 6 points from bottom and we're going into a crunch period against teams who have experience in these situations-and probably give a ****-unlike the majority of our squad.

The question has to be asked why Sligo,Rovers etc are all so much better than us-comsidering we have a bigger budget.
Failure to beat Pats and especially Longford and we're doomed for an inevitable return to the 1st Division.
We shouldn't even be in this situation.Get rid of all the deadweight for next year-management and 50% of the squad!

[gufct]

Inevitable return to the 1st division !!!!!!! so we are going to lose every game between here and October .

[Conor H]

Inevitable return to the 1st division !!!!!!! so we are going to lose every game between here and October .

I said if we lose to Pats and Longford.Selective quoting doesn't help!

The way we played on Friday Monaghan UTD would have trounced us.

[corbyeire]

gufct and conor, id have to say im somewhere in the middle - i just think these lads can play a lot better and do sometimes - but just not consistantly enough

with the monkey off the back at home - they have to come on and show some fight at home - its must win against longford - to slow them down and a point is respectable from pats - but the win and points are needed at this stage

i have to say i dont think we will be relegated (famous last words) i think these guys if they want to play, can stay up

dont think the home crowd will be too quiet for too long if the performance was like friday night last - this could be a good thing and a bad thing - depending how the players react to it

i think they will react positively and win at home - hopefully!

[geezer]

gufct your loyalty is admirable and we all know that if we get relegated you will be still there with the 400 brave souls. Unfortunately though for a team of coach,players & staff that are "building" there is not a lot of hope. Next year is going to be woeful tough to avoid the drop into obscurity. With longfords deduction and waterford so bad, this year is a lot easier than anticipated yet we still will struggle to survive. A part time manager, full time team and the rest of the "team" fond of the bookies as opposed to the training pitch I dont think the likes of gufct ,Patrick Dunne C Holland and the management board is being treated with the respect they are dipping deep into their pockets for. Questions have to be asked and its no harm or act of disloyalty to offer an opinion. Maybe those very opinions shook a few (of the shysters that make up united at the moment) after the bray and waterford, raceweek debacle. The fact is bar the sligo good performance and the brave effort against the leaders we are a ****e football team with very little ability. Heads should not go down with "professionals" if they do they should be out soon afterwards.

Still all is not lost ,survival is what we asked and hopefully what we will get this season but improvement i cant see coming with this team and there is no time to twaddle around and wait

[eamo1]

i dont think we will go down but i can only think of around 5/6 who id keep on for next season.the managers position must be questioned too given the resources hes had this season.
i agree with conor H in that the players are treated so well,spoiled even,and have given little in return for the shirt.im an optimist though in all walks of life and think we will stay up,just.

[Patrick Dunne]

We can stay up, and I believe we will.

I know that many supporters are extremely unhappy with the current playing
and management set-up. However, at this stage, we have very little option but to stand behind the squad until the end of the season.

As corbyeire says, good home support for the games against Pats and Longford is vital.

There will have to be a thorough review of the performances of players and management at the end of the season.

[Claret Murph]

We can stay up, and I believe we will.

I know that many supporters are extremely unhappy with the current playing
and management set-up. However, at this stage, we have very little option but to stand behind the squad until the end of the season.

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Well said Pa .

This is a time when we need to get behind the team as we must be in the premier league next season .

[Tir Oilean]

I can see both sides of all the arguments but the bottom line is that the people that criticise the team and support the team on here will all be standing together in Terryland and other venues for the remaining games of the season as we always do, thats what support is all about. Keep the heads up is the message. If we stay up (or even if we go down) then we can swing the axe.

[KoemansCC]

Agreed, the present set up of players and management are in place for the rest of the season and they will get my full backing, a bit like the Irish situation but don't get me started on that! But as baileban said a complete review and overhaul will be needed during the off season, starting from the top down...

[mypost]

We can stay up, and I believe we will.

As corbyeire says, good home support for the games against Pats and Longford is vital.

It's your away form that will keep you up, you've only lost at one club this season. Most teams do lose to us at Tolka, no matter how they're set up.

[Tir Oilean]

It's your away form that will keep you up, you've only lost at one club this season. Most teams do lose to us at Tolka, no matter how they're set up.

Well were on a one game losing streak away from home now!:D Ipredict that we will take more points at home in the remaining matches than we have done earlier in the season.

[Conor H]

It's your away form that will keep you up, you've only lost at one club this season. Most teams do lose to us at Tolka, no matter how they're set up.

Lost at Waterford to.
Sorry for been pedantic!:o

[JC_GUFC]

I think the doom and gloom on this forum is way OTT.

We were rubbish on Friday but had been on a 5 game unbeaten run before that.

Our last 6 games have been played against the league leaders (twice) and the teams in 2nd, 4th, 5th and 8th.

We're in the perfect position for the rest of the season with all the weaker teams left to play.

Waterford have had 1 win in their last 10 games and Bray haven't won in 8 and both have much tougher run-ins than us. Longford even with their great run are still 6 points behind us and still have to play Bray and Waterford so unless we lose nearly every game from now til the end of the season it is very difficult to see how we could finish in the bottom 2.

Every week after a defeat the next game is a "MUST-WIN" - we've seen this since the start of the season and seeing as we only have 4 wins all season I'd say we mustn't have won a hell of a lot of the must win games but we're still OK.

I've seen some bad managers and players in my time supporting United but I don't think Tony or any of the players in the squad come near that.

I predict that we'll beat UCD on the last day of the season to finish above them in 8th place in the league, which for our first season up will have been a decent achievement and something to build on for next year.

[Tir Oilean]

Great enthusiasm JC. And great post. We do have an easier run in but we have played very badly against all the teams around us thats whats worrying!

[Conor H]

Think you're missing the point JC.

Every team has bad results here and there but it's the attitude of certain players and the shocking standard of football played at times that gets on everyone's nerves.

TC hasn't delivered on 2/3 of his own objectives.
League Cup-Knocked out 2nd Round
FAI Cup-Knocked out by a 1st Division Team in the 2nd Round.
One win at home all season.

This is all made worse by the fact that we are full time.Nobody was expecting top 6 this year but it's not alot to ask to be in and around it.What benefits have shown to the full time set up?Why can't we beat any of the part time teams?

We will more than likely stay up but that doesn't mean everyone has to be satisfied with the year.If you set high targets you deliver high standards.Rovers been the prime example.It shows that with a proper attitude and work ethic it's not hard to do well in this league.TC's ethos of treating them like royalty hasn't worked.Scrap the luxuires and only keep the players who are 100% committed to playing and winning for UTD.
Next year we shouldn't and won't accept the same performances and position that we're currently in.Top 6 is the aim.Can TC deliver?

[Tir Oilean]

We will more than likely stay up but that doesn't mean everyone has to be satisfied with the year.If you set high targets you deliver high standards.Rovers been the prime example.

This is one of the problems, he didnt set high standards (Gilberto was jumping up and down about this at the start of the season and in hindsight he was right). Survival was all he was looking for and probably will get it. Had we aimed for Europe we might have finished a little higher maybe. Not too bothered about where Rovers are tbh as they were only down for one season weve been there for an age so we wouldnt be used to the pace etc of Premier footie. Havin said that we have brought in many players who have such experience and should be able to step up to the task.

[gufct]

Rovers have a bigger budget than we have and there are very few of their players part time. Its been impossible to prise the very best players away from the Dublin clubs for years because they are on better money and feel that somewhere like Galway,Sligo or Cork is not the place they want to live and you have to work with the hand your dealt with .

We have had a huge turnover of players since last season and it takes at least one season to show the benefits of a fulltime setup just look at Drogheda whose Budget dwarves ours and nearly all their squad live and train in Dublin. They have debts of €2.6m and if the devolopers pulled the plug tomorrow would fold.

[NY Hoop]

Rovers have a bigger budget than we have and there are very few of their players part time. Its been impossible to prise the very best players away from the Dublin clubs for years because they are on better money and feel that somewhere like Galway,Sligo or Cork is not the place they want to live and you have to work with the hand your dealt with .



Wrong. Our budget is lower than yours and almost all of our players are part time. Full time in attitude though. Look at the players cork have. You think they're down there for the sun?

Still think you'll stay up. Your next match will tell a tale.

KOH

[Gaillimh Al]

A bit over the top reaction regarding the result. Can anyone remember a season when we didn't get a good hiding in one game. To have lost only 2 games by more than a goal is a feat in itself. As for getting beaten by a part-time Rovers outfit......they have better players, whether they're full-time, part-time or flexi-time it makes no odds.
I still think we are moving in the right direction. It might not be quick enough for everyone's liking, but to stay up should have been the only target Cousins set himself this year.

[Conor H]

Rovers have a bigger budget than we have and there are very few of their players part time. Its been impossible to prise the very best players away from the Dublin clubs for years because they are on better money and feel that somewhere like Galway,Sligo or Cork is not the place they want to live and you have to work with the hand your dealt with .

We have had a huge turnover of players since last season and it takes at least one season to show the benefits of a fulltime setup just look at Drogheda whose Budget dwarves ours and nearly all their squad live and train in Dublin. They have debts of €2.6m and if the devolopers pulled the plug tomorrow would fold.


You can't just make sweeping statements like that.How do you know they have a bigger budget?You looked at their accounts did you?
If you're going to make educated guesses then surely us-the full time outfit and squad who bought a number of players-have the bigger budget.

Also they most definitely are not all full time.That i know for a fact.There was some programme about Scully and Rovers on RTE a few months back.

[gilberto_eire]

This is one of the problems, he didnt set high standards (Gilberto was jumping up and down about this at the start of the season and in hindsight he was right). Survival was all he was looking for and probably will get it. Had we aimed for Europe we might have finished a little higher maybe. Not too bothered about where Rovers are tbh as they were only down for one season weve been there for an age so we wouldnt be used to the pace etc of Premier footie. Havin said that we have brought in many players who have such experience and should be able to step up to the task.

thank you!!;)

in fairness we are where we are because of the teams around us have been so poor.... 4 wins in 26 games isnt an insurmountable accomplishment ffs. Tony has had time and resources at this stage and the starting 11 now differs completly from the one he inherited and IMO it isnt any better. having bought in excess of 10 plyers this year we still have 2/3/4 players out of position every game.... whatever about his work rate john lester isnt anywhere near a good enough center-half.

Tony doesnt match the ambitions of the club and i dont think he ever will, id be surprised if he took us to where we want to be(prem champions) for every 5 players he buys 4 dont work out, that in itself ill use as means for my argument

yes we were on an un-beaten run but how many wins were in there??.... at this stage when we win a game ppl are giving the management and players too much credit....they should be winning every game not 1 in 5/6

[Patrick Dunne]

Our budget is over E1,000,000 in 2007. This was made public at the start of the season. Average expenditure is therefore E25,000 per week.

I would be surprised if Shamrock Rovers budget is even half that. The 400 club raises between E3-4,000 a week.

No excuses, please, for players and management.

[gufct]

That is the total budget for the club Pa some people on here think that is the footballing budget which is €670,000 which is €12,500 per week for a full year if we are full time.Its easy to spin figures but i doubt very much if Rovers Playing budget is less than that.

No one is standing up for players or managment but some of the posts on here would do justice to some of the less savoury tabloids and some people are just asking for is balanced debate and not just jumping on every result as a must win game and the Manager and Players dont give a damn.

At the start of the season anyone involved with the running of GUFC had one ambition and that was to stay up this year and build for next season which will be the most important for every Club in the country. We are on track just about at the moment and we need everyone working together to ensure we stay up.

Its crazy to have people giving the players a standing ovation one week and booing them off the field the next. Look at the rovers fans and the way they stick with the team even when things looked grim on the pitch and off it.

[Claret Murph]

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At the start of the season anyone involved with the running of GUFC had one ambition and that was to stay up this year and build for next season which will be the most important for every Club in the country. We are on track just about at the moment and we need everyone working together to ensure we stay up.

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I must admit i agree with gufct on the above quote . I think from the outset this was the goal , a lot has been said about TC about the players he has brought in and and played in whatever positions . but we must stand by him as no doubt it is a learning curve for him also I am sure he is big enought to admit that he has made mistakes , but he sees the players train each day which most of us on here don't so he has an idea and gos with it .
Now when any manager has been on a bad streak he has to move things about a bit and just about try anything to grind out a positive result .

I still beleive TC is the man to take the club forward and we should all get behind him and his staff .:)

[galwaygirl]

Its crazy to have people giving the players a standing ovation one week and booing them off the field the next. Look at the rovers fans and the way they stick with the team even when things looked grim on the pitch and off it.

When we go and follow GUFC around the country i think we're entitled to our reactions after certain games. Fair enough i dont condone booing them off the pitch but in saying that they know themselves they dont deserve a standing ovation every week. As for sticking with the team, c'mon GUFCT you know as well as i do that there are a lot of fans around that have been there when things looked grim as well, both on and off the pitch

[gufct]

I wasnt saying all the supporters are like that GG but its the ones who are waiting for them to fail that drive me crazy.

[Tir Oilean]

If your looking for the people who are waiting for the team to fail GUFCT look to Dundalk and some Sligo supporters and of course the barstoolers looking for something to talk about. To say the posters here or those who go to Terryland are waiting for the team to fail is ridiculous. We all have are views but just because we have a rant about them on here does not mean we want them to fail ffs. its simply showing our frustration with the failures that have happened throughout the season. And to all the players/management that read this forum we are 100% behind you in the push for safety.

[Patrick Dunne]

No one wants the team to fail, gufct. We just want players and management to give 100% for the cause. It is patently obvious that a section of the first team squad have either attitude problems, insufficent abililty to play at this level, or in some cases, both.

Considering the season we have had, the supporters have been very patient. No other club in Ireland would be getting 2,000 at home (vs Sligo) after five months without a home win.

I will be supporting the players on the pitch and the management until the end of the season.

[gufct]

well i have missed damn all games this season and bar certain players not being up to it I wouldnt question the majority of the squads commitment or Tony or any of the rest of the footballing side for that matter. This year was always going to be awkward for us with so many changes in Players.

As for the poster who said that 4 out of 5 of Tonys signings were bad I dont think anyone on here would agree with that. Noitmeer, Rogers, Lester, Fitzgerald, Glynn are hardly testimony on that.

[gilberto_eire]

well i have missed damn all games this season and bar certain players not being up to it I wouldnt question the majority of the squads commitment or Tony or any of the rest of the footballing side for that matter. This year was always going to be awkward for us with so many changes in Players.

As for the poster who said that 4 out of 5 of Tonys signings were bad I dont think anyone on here would agree with that. Noitmeer, Rogers, Lester, Fitzgerald, Glynn are hardly testimony on that.

putting Lester in there is a joke...the fella cant play the position Tony bought him for and is nowhere near a good enough CB. he was a waste of money, you can hardly say you'd have him there over any other CB is the league would ya?

Armstrong,Mensah,O'Flynn,Brianias,Fagen,Faherty,Tr acey,Lester....

ill give ya Glynn although his all round contribution is VERY poor..unless he's put through on goal his contribution is zero, having said that put him in on goal and he's likely to score.

id even be inclined to put Rogers in, on the basis of all the points he cost us earlier in the season and his kicking is woeful, coupled with the fact he wont even move down here shows his long term commitment to the cause, doesnt have a cup/league(if he does it will only be with us cause no other top club would take him) in him IMO!

thats 8 players who have been a waste of money. Managers cant afford to make more then 1/2 bad signings a season theres 8 there ffs!

[gufct]

None of the players you have mentioned cost a penny as they were all on frees.

I think if you ask anyone about Lester they will disagree with you as he has been easily our best player overall for the last 2 months. Also Vinny is only u21 and will need at least one full season before you can judge him. If you check our defensive record this season its probably the best we have had in the last 15/16 years so to pick on Rogers is ridiculous as well.Tracey is 20 and Fagan has barely played whose to say that they wont make good squad players.

Mensah and Armstrong both got bad injuries one of them after 63 mins in his first game and is that the Managers fault???????

[gilberto_eire]

None of the players you have mentioned cost a penny as they were all on frees.

I think if you ask anyone about Lester they will disagree with you as he has been easily our best player overall for the last 2 months. Also Vinny is only u21 and will need at least one full season before you can judge him. If you check our defensive record this season its probably the best we have had in the last 15/16 years so to pick on Rogers is ridiculous as well.Tracey is 20 and Fagan has barely played whose to say that they wont make good squad players.

Mensah and Armstrong both got bad injuries one of them after 63 mins in his first game and is that the Managers fault???????

well armstrong had a history which we all knew about before he even came here, rogers has cost us points in a few games i can sit down think aboit them and name them out if ya want?. lester isnt a good center-back, your own lil world if ya think that.... he does try his heart out and is decent in the air but he knows nothing about playing the position!

yes tracey is 20, not 17...... he's a near full grown man if he's not ready now when will he be?. and why has fagen barely played?.... obvioulsy Tony prefers what we had before....

i know they were frees and i obvioulsy meant wages when i stated money!

why are you comparing our record to teams of old??.... teams of old never had it better GUFCT and you know that yourself..... bottom line is switch scully with tony and we'd have been the team 2nd in the table!. and he wouldnt have needed half our budget!

[Patrick Dunne]

In fairness, gilberto, Lester and Rogers have been decent signings.

The jury is out on a lot of the others mentioned.

[gordongekko]

well i have missed damn all games this season and bar certain players not being up to it I wouldnt question the majority of the squads commitment or Tony or any of the rest of the footballing side for that matter.


Surely its fair to question a manager who kept playing Reilly Moran and Cooke for most of the season. How can we expect to be in a higher league position when 3 of our players were poor first division players. im sure you have noticed we look a far better team when they dont play.


gg

[mypost]

Considering the season we have had, the supporters have been very patient. No other club in Ireland would be getting 2,000 at home (vs Sligo) after five months without a home win.

The 2,000 you've got has nothing to do with the fact you're playing Sligo, no? :confused:

You've taken 4 points off Drogs in recent weeks, got 2 points from 2 trips to Cork, won at Pats, and got a draw in Derry. Most teams would struggle to achieve that.

The problem with yis, is that (as we saw from our 4 games last year, that produced only 3 goals) you score and concede few. Away from home that works, because you have to defend for most of the game, but at home you have to come out and play a bit, when you can't score many goals anyway. Maybe your squad is set up to defend, and so perform better on their travels.

[geezer]

i want is united to fail, ffs ask any of my family who laugh when i walk in the door after our many many losses over the years. TC i hope doesnt fail either but he is dismal as a decision maker so far . The coaching must be woeful when you look at the touches of some of the players cooke,moran,oflynn (the biggest joke ever). On lester i would probably give him the nod for player of the season and he has givin everything but he is a first division player and will never compete at midfield with the best in the league.
regi, rogers and fitzgrald i would hold, keane,glynn & russell because they are young and local. Id say glynn probably came to the club as opposed to TC going out recruiting him, unless TC spends his weekends in mayo watching junior matches

still i will support to seasons end at the matches and as is my choice go awol on this forum every other week, regretting posts sometimes.

cmon united