Time For Magee+finnin To Go

[the dazzler]

Lads The Club Is Gone Downhill For The Last 2months On And Off The Field Its Time For The Lads To Go No Sign Of It Getting Better Even Sponsors Are Pulling Out They See The Club As A Waste Of Time And Money

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Another pointless negative thread

PS. whats the idea hehind your unique writing style

[osarusan]

Time For The Dazzler To Go.

[the dazzler]

Time For The Dazzler To Go.

im only saying what other people are thinking magee has lost interest and jackman park is still the same ****hole as last year nothing been done behind the scenes give someone else a chance

[shanman2]

He has made some funny decisions namely letting David Wall leave, But patience is a virtue... Lets hope the under 21s start to produce some quality players, while i don't believe there is any need for 21's. Wouldn't most players who have the ability be in the squad for the senior side by the time they are 18. Reserves would be a better option along with youths...

[gael353]

Another pointless negative thread

PS. whats the idea hehind your unique writing style


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[PinBallWizard]

I know I've been pretty vocal in pointing out the inadequacies of the club in recent times. My opinions have not really changed. I still believe that Finnin is a chancer, and a spoofer of the highest order. I also agree that McGee is an arsehole and looking out of his depth as a manager.

However, there is nobody else running the club, or looking to so it seems that we are stuck with Herr Finnin. As for Mr. McGoo, sorry, McGee, it simply will cost too much money to sack him (if he actually is on a contract like the club says) and we can't afford to hire another one.

Loathe to say it, but I think now the best option would be to bring back O'Connor. He would gladly do the job for free I'd say because for all his faults, nobody can question his commitment to Limerick soccer over the past 10 years, most of which he did for free anyway.

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Typo :p

[thelimerick]

Sponsors Are Pulling Out They See The Club As A Waste Of Time And Money

name one

[Monkfish]

give someone else a chance

Suggest someone then, I hear Roman and Jose might have had a bit of a run in again, maybe a few years with us would help their situation.

[jebus]

Loathe to say it, but I think now the best option would be to bring back O'Connor. He would gladly do the job for free I'd say because for all his faults, nobody can question his commitment to Limerick soccer over the past 10 years, most of which he did for free anyway.

Why on the one hand would you say something I agree with (McGee is being found out as a manager) and then go and ruin it on the next by saying we should bring back the Butcher, a man who has been found wanting in the management department himself as a Limerick manager? If we get rid of McGee we need to look for someone fresh, not someone who has some negative history with the players, and someone who has a love of negative football that drives crowds away

[4tothefloor]

Lads The Club Is Gone Downhill For The Last 2months On And Off The Field Its Time For The Lads To Go No Sign Of It Getting Better Even Sponsors Are Pulling Out They See The Club As A Waste Of Time And Money
They haven't even completed the season in a newly formed club and you want them out? To be replaced by who? Being a realist, I'd expect us to be in Division 1 for another 2 seasons AT LEAST. That squad is not capable of getting promoted. The players there just aren't good enough. Nor is the club capable of becoming a premier league club yet, we've just been formed! We're not experienced enough off the field. You have to crawl before you can walk.

[joeSoap]

That squad is not capable of getting promoted. The players there just aren't good enough. Can't agree with you there. A first division squad containing Jimmy Fyffe, Paul Finucane, Pat Purcell, Tommy Barrett, Wayne Colbert, Kevin Waters, Padraig Moran and Derek McCarthy should definitely be getting promoted.

That, and the astronomic wage bill....

[4tothefloor]

Can't agree with you there. A first division squad containing Jimmy Fyffe, Paul Finucane, Pat Purcell, Tommy Barrett, Wayne Colbert, Kevin Waters, Padraig Moran and Derek McCarthy should definitely be getting promoted.

That, and the astronomic wage bill....

Jimmy Fyffe - Decent keeper, but there's better out there
Paul Finucane - Having an off season if you ask me
Tommy Barrett - Over-rated in my opinion, hasn't done much since he came back, also CM is not his best position
Wayne Colbert - Hasn't performed since his return and has done little to justify the hype
Padraig Moran - Don't even know why you singled him out. Best days are behind him
Derek McCarthy - Derek is a good squad player, but we will never win the league or get promoted with him as our main striker.

Purcell and Waters I'll give you.

As for the wage bill, there's a few senior players I'd be showing the door to at the end of the season. In certain positions there is as good if not better in the U21's squad and if I were the club I'd promote these guys cos they're hungrier, cheaper and can develop in to decent players. The likes of Tierney, Clarke and Harrington are the clubs future and they've already shown they are well capable at this level. Give them a few years and they could be unreal. Some of our best players in recent years such as O'Mahoney, Sugrue, O'Flynn etc were young players at the time and there's no reason why the latest batch can't do the same.

[thelimerick]

"Sponsors Are Pulling Out They See The Club As A Waste Of Time And Money" - the dazzler

"Name one" - the limerick

" ....... " - the dazzler

If you cannot back up these "stories" which themselves are damaging to the club that you "care" so much about I suggest you find yourself a new hobby.

[Fairkop]

They haven't even completed the season in a newly formed club and you want them out? To be replaced by who? Being a realist, I'd expect us to be in Division 1 for another 2 seasons AT LEAST. That squad is not capable of getting promoted. The players there just aren't good enough. Nor is the club capable of becoming a premier league club yet, we've just been formed! We're not experienced enough off the field. You have to crawl before you can walk.

that squad you mention is one of the most experienced and well paid squads in the league and according to many a similar squad under the butcher ..should...have been promoted.yes it is a new club,but in trems of admin only real difference is nutbag DD is gone.certainly agree that some senior players have to be shown the door ...and it was skee who signed them....was,n it.

[sadloserkid]

Cobh Ramblers look like they could well win the division and anybody who thinks that Jimmy Fyffe, Paul Finucane, Derek McCarthy, Tommy Barrett and Wayne Colbert wouldn't figure for them is just plain wrong. This isn't a great side but it's a good one and definitely good enough to get out of this division with a bit of luck and a competent manager at the helm.

That said it would be ridiculous to show anybody the door at this point in the season and whatever about McGee it would be lunacy to push Finnin towards the exit. Whatever mistakes he's made he's put in time and effort and the club is certainly no worse off than last year. Next season is the time to judge the off field activities to see if progress can be maintained.

[4tothefloor]

Cobh Ramblers look like they could well win the division and anybody who thinks that Jimmy Fyffe, Paul Finucane, Derek McCarthy, Tommy Barrett and Wayne Colbert wouldn't figure for them is just plain wrong.
If they were that good we'd be promoted long ago. Jimmy Fyffe and Derek McCarthy have failed miserably when they moved to other clubs, that tells you something. Paul Finucane is usually sound but this season he seems to be off form. It's a good job it's Paddy Purcell and not Anthony Wolfe that he's playing longside, otherwise we'd be a lot further down the table. Wayne Colbert has done absolutely nothing to justify the hype, maybe he's being played out of position, but I just don't see what all the fuss is about. I hope he proves me wrong. Tommy Barrett is a decent player, but he has no football. He's limited and I never expected him to improve us greatly simply because he is not that good technically. I've been watching this group of players now since the first Noel O'Connor stint in charge. They are not good enough to get promoted, even with John Gill in charge. They've gone a bit stale and things need to be freshened up a bit. Just my opinion.....

[L37Ultra]

jackman park is still the same ****hole as last year nothing been done behind the scenes give someone else a chance

Ok Im guessing you werent at the quiz night where plans were produced for Jackman Park plus an explanation for its delay. And starting threads like that and surrounding the club with a negative vibe is only going to make our situation worse as people wont bother coming to matches if there is a negative image of the club in the city. Time for Dazzler to go IMO!! ;)

[jebus]

Ok Im guessing you werent at the quiz night where plans were produced for Jackman Park plus an explanation for its delay. And starting threads like that and surrounding the club with a negative vibe is only going to make our situation worse as people wont bother coming to matches if there is a negative image of the club in the city. Time for Dazzler to go IMO!! ;)

Not to mention that Dazzler falls into the ol' Junior habit of making out we own Jackman Park and are responsible for it's complete upkeep, that is until they need to point out that without them and their ground we would be homeless :rolleyes:

[sadloserkid]

If they were that good we'd be promoted long ago. Jimmy Fyffe and Derek McCarthy have failed miserably when they moved to other clubs, that tells you something. Paul Finucane is usually sound but this season he seems to be off form. It's a good job it's Paddy Purcell and not Anthony Wolfe that he's playing longside, otherwise we'd be a lot further down the table. Wayne Colbert has done absolutely nothing to justify the hype, maybe he's being played out of position, but I just don't see what all the fuss is about. I hope he proves me wrong. Tommy Barrett is a decent player, but he has no football. He's limited and I never expected him to improve us greatly simply because he is not that good technically. I've been watching this group of players now since the first Noel O'Connor stint in charge. They are not good enough to get promoted, even with John Gill in charge. They've gone a bit stale and things need to be freshened up a bit. Just my opinion.....

Fyffe's spell with Waterford was short but hardly a failure. He picked up a number of man of the match awards in his early games and was well regarded there. Similarly with Bray. It's not uncommon for part time footballers to struggle once they move away from home. Whatever about any of the others I honestly believe that a fit, focused (and of those words are key) Jimmy Fyffe is the best goalkeeper in this division.

Similarly Barrett did a solid job for a side performing well in the Premier division now, to suggest that he's not good enough to get a side out of this division is way off.

If you are correct though and all these players are just flotsam in this division who's culpable? Surely the manager? Especially for the players that he added in the window? The baffling loyalty to Anthony Hayes (and Dave Ryan to a lesser extent), the butcher-esque treatment of Moloney. Paul McGee has not overachieved by any stretch this season. 4th wouldn't be a bad finish first time out but let's not get carried away. Your comments about Fyffe certainly apply to McGee, 'there's better out there'.

[the dazzler]

Ok Im guessing you werent at the quiz night where plans were produced for Jackman Park plus an explanation for its delay. And starting threads like that and surrounding the club with a negative vibe is only going to make our situation worse as people wont bother coming to matches if there is a negative image of the club in the city. Time for Dazzler to go IMO!! ;)

were they the same plans as the start of the year?:

[the dazzler]

now magee has to go the season is finished changes has to be made:mad:

[gael353]

were they the same plans as the start of the year?:


no there not

[lfc at heart]

full of sh*t dazzler, we are still waiting for you to mention just 1 sponsor that has pulled out, come on either get off the pot or Sh*t .... on some other thread

[PinBallWizard]

Heard Mike Kerley is absolutely dying to get back into EL management, as is Alan Reynolds. I'll lay odds with anyone that one of them will be in charge at the start of next season.

[jebus]

Heard Mike Kerley is absolutely dying to get back into EL management, as is Alan Reynolds. I'll lay odds with anyone that one of them will be in charge at the start of next season.

I'm a big fan of Kerley's but if the option came up to get Reynolds on board I'd take him over Mike

[gael353]

Heard Mike Kerley is absolutely dying to get back into EL management, as is Alan Reynolds. I'll lay odds with anyone that one of them will be in charge at the start of next season.

and Tommy Gaynor and Ski McGee and me and u the list is endless as to who wants to manage in LOI these days as if you have an "A" licence coaching badge you can write your own cheques. Im all for mike but not his assistant, too expensive and crap.

[Fairkop]

and Tommy Gaynor and Ski McGee and me and u the list is endless as to who wants to manage in LOI these days as if you have an "A" licence coaching badge you can write your own cheques. Im all for mike but not his assistant, too expensive and crap.

are we talking about the same m.kerley whose el record reads 4 wins out of 44 games........btw who is his assistant.

[joeSoap]

Trevor Lavelle I presume??

[jebus]

are we talking about the same m.kerley whose el record reads 4 wins out of 44 games........btw who is his assistant.

I think we're talking about the one who got us to the playoffs and lost to Derry on a shoestring budget

[PinBallWizard]

I think we're talking about the one who got us to the playoffs and lost to Derry on a shoestring budget Yeah, but that one inherited a cracking squad from the butcher and wasn't on the shoestring budget until the following season, when his true abilities came to the fore....

[jebus]

Yeah, but that one inherited a cracking squad from the butcher and wasn't on the shoestring budget until the following season, when his true abilities came to the fore....

This old discussion again. Do you think the Butcher could have brought the team to the playoffs that year, particularly playing on the ground football? I don't, I reckon we would have ended up in mid table again with NOC in charge. And true abilities? So you won't give Kerley credit for managing a team that reached the playoffs? Even if he did have a cracking squad he still had to guide them there ffs, and thats not even mentioning that Arsene Wenger himself wouldn't have been able to do any better with Limerick the following year. I remember a time when a few of us were only half joking to one of the then chairmen that we might have to sign registration forms so Limerick would at least have some subs. The time Kerley was given to assemble a squad, and the money he was given to assemble it with completely negates that season in my book

[Fairkop]

This old discussion again. Do you think the Butcher could have brought the team to the playoffs that year, particularly playing on the ground football? I don't, I reckon we would have ended up in mid table again with NOC in charge. And true abilities? So you won't give Kerley credit for managing a team that reached the playoffs? Even if he did have a cracking squad he still had to guide them there ffs, and thats not even mentioning that Arsene Wenger himself wouldn't have been able to do any better with Limerick the following year. I remember a time when a few of us were only half joking to one of the then chairmen that we might have to sign registration forms so Limerick would at least have some subs. The time Kerley was given to assemble a squad, and the money he was given to assemble it with completely negates that season in my book
in fairness he did manage that team to the playoffs...ground football..not so sure about that,as for the following season mikes preseason inactivity left lot to be desired,...mind you he did make sure his own contract was secured with a nice sum despite the lack of money which is one of the reasons you ...nearly made the professional grade.

[redron]

Ah, come on now.
That year we finished bottom: the bulk of the team from the previous season were gone, because having got to the play-offs other clubs with money to pay wages snapped them up with tempting deals (at least, more tempting than what was on offer at LFC). The squad was so small that Kerley himself played quite a lot of football that season (in defence). Also, you had keepers playing outfield, defenders playing in midfield, strikers playing in midfield, etc. These were necessities just to make up a full team!
The fact that the squad consisted of only 15 or whatever players is hardly the fault of the manager. The money simply wasn't there.

I would have liked Drew to have kept him on. But Drew had bigger ideas!?!?

[gael353]

Ah, come on now.
That year we finished bottom: the bulk of the team from the previous season were gone, because having got to the play-offs other clubs with money to pay wages snapped them up with tempting deals (at least, more tempting than what was on offer at LFC). The squad was so small that Kerley himself played quite a lot of football that season (in defence). Also, you had keepers playing outfield, defenders playing in midfield, strikers playing in midfield, etc. These were necessities just to make up a full team!
The fact that the squad consisted of only 15 or whatever players is hardly the fault of the manager. The money simply wasn't there.


spot on Ron

[PinBallWizard]

So, all it takes to be a manager is money then, is it? Christ ye have a very perverted view of football management. The man was a failure with a super squad (unless of course you clowns consider getting to a play off final and losing it badly to be a success) and then an even bigger failure in everything he did the next season bar making sure his own wages were paid.

[redron]

The problem that season was most of the players that were available to him were not of League of Ireland standard. A manager cannot turn a mediocre player into a good player. A manager can play a supportive role in helping a player achieve his full potential, but development of a player's skills has more to do with the talent and dedication of the player himself. This is particularly the case with amateur/part-time players.
The reality is, that squad's potential was very limited. In one-on-one situations, so many of those players were simply outclassed by their opponents.

So, a manager can only manage the players that are at his disposal.
And this applies to McGee too. (Although this is not an excuse for Ski: he has made numerous decisions that I disagree with.)

While there have been a few (very few) who have had consistent criticisms of McGee's tactics and vision, for the most part, while the results were going our way, most people were very quick to heap praise on the manager. In my opinion, we had quite a lot of luck on our side in the first half of the season (draws from games we might have lost, wins from games where we deserved no more than a draw), but our luck seems to have run out now. Despite this, it is still possible for us to make the play-offs, and we're still in the Cup.

[superhero]

you may not have to wait long to see this happen, if Limerick are beaten by Longford in the cup Ski will be heading to Athlone, an Athlone Town player told me that.

[gael353]

you may not have to wait long to see this happen, if Limerick are beaten by Longford in the cup

im guessing here but could it be the weekend of the 22nd? :)

[greenandwhite]

now magee has to go the season is finished changes has to be made:mad:

I dont often post on the crap that is normally posted here but you and that pinball guy are real dicks have ye any idea of what is involved in running even a junior club i mean after all the truble the club went to saying they were using this season to build the club you guys want to get rid of them for gods sake take a chill pill and wise up do ye even like limerick soccer and have ye ever tried helping a limerick club instead of sniping from behind a computer. there are enough idiots in my own club who would love to see limerick 37 fail but i think this would be a disaster for limerick soccer fair dues to every one who works hard at the club from the stwuards to the committee. let me know how many times you have volenteered to do anything with the club from what i hear both you and the famous wizard are sad angry people who are only happy when making others unhappy and i have that from a very reliable source and as for ski leaving i must have been listning to a different mcgee this morning on the radio when he said he was planning for next season with the younger players and that he had a 2 year contract

so cop on and have some pride in people who actually get up off their arses and do something where were you 2 in november when there was a bleek future for limerick soccer?

oh i forgot you were both probably saving limerick soccer by heroicaly posting snide cowardly messages here

i dont agree with everything that the current people are doing but i really think they have their hearts in the right place and that is what was missing for years in limerick so im giving them the benifit of the boubt

[PinBallWizard]

Why am I being picked on here? I haven't said anything on this subject in weeks and the last time I did, I simply pointed out how I felt the club was being badly run, which the last time I looked, I am perfectly entitled to do.

[Lim till i die]

Why am I being picked on here? I haven't said anything on this subject in weeks and the last time I did, I simply pointed out how I felt the club was being badly run, which the last time I looked, I am perfectly entitled to do.

It's the pack mentality

Bloody awful it is :)


you may not have to wait long to see this happen, if Limerick are beaten by Longford in the cup Ski will be heading to Athlone, an Athlone Town player told me that.

Yawn

Ski is going to be managing Athlone next season is sooooo six months agos news superhero

[greenandwhite]

Why am I being picked on here? I haven't said anything on this subject in weeks and the last time I did, I simply pointed out how I felt the club was being badly run, which the last time I looked, I am perfectly entitled to do.

well step up to the plate and help people to do it better then instead of whinging cause im not the only one sick of your negitivity

[Lim till i die]

well step up to the plate and help people to do it better then instead of whinging cause im not the only one sick of your negitivity

And I'm not the only one who's sick of people being attacked for no other reason than having a different opinion :rolleyes:

[greenandwhite]

And I'm not the only one who's sick of people being attacked for no other reason than having a different opinion :rolleyes:

the world is full of opinions and everyone is entitled to theres but how many people actually try to use their opinions to change things for the better from what i see here most of the crap is spouted by people who only want to express opinions but couldnt be bothered to try and change things so lim i agree that there should be free exchange of ideas but at some stage if somone feels strong enough about a thing they should express their opinion on it and then try to change it

by the way to follow your logic i never attacked anyone just expressed an opinion

[Fairkop]

the world is full of opinions and everyone is entitled to theres but how many people actually try to use their opinions to change things for the better from what i see here most of the crap is spouted by people who only want to express opinions but couldnt be bothered to try and change things so lim i agree that there should be free exchange of ideas but at some stage if somone feels strong enough about a thing they should express their opinion on it and then try to change it

by the way to follow your logic i never attacked anyone just expressed an opinion
you see...there you go again......calling peoples opinions crap,these forums are all about opinions some same some different...hence discussion.acting on it is not an obligation.

[Lim till i die]

by the way to follow your logic i never attacked anyone just expressed an opinion

What about this??


well step up to the plate and help people to do it better then instead of whinging cause im not the only one sick of your negitivity

Sigh :rolleyes:

[Battery Rover]

you may not have to wait long to see this happen, if Limerick are beaten by Longford in the cup Ski will be heading to Athlone, an Athlone Town player told me that.

That rumour is doing the rounds since the match against Limerick in Series 2. I have heard at least 10 people rumoured to be in line to manage Athlone next season. Someone even asked me in Kilkenny last week what I thought of "R***Y" becoming manager:eek:

Would love to see Paugie Moran come back to be part of a mangement team in Athlone .

[sadloserkid]

Would love to see Paugie Moran come back to be part of a mangement team in Athlone .

Ski's assistant in waiting in one version of the story I've heard.