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True but at least they support their own team first. Not all Scandinavians support two clubs. As Dolan rightly said "You cant support two clubs".
You mean as self confessed Arsenal fan Dolan said...
True but at least they support their own team first.
Exactly, and you can be sure they dont have the same cringo phone in shows like Today fm have after 5 on a sat with irish 'fans' of liverpool/man utd and even lower div sides like wolves, chartlon (I have heard them) calling in from kerry/mayo etc, all using the 'WE' term when going on about uk football.
The every same morons would be down their local and would be anti england when they play international football.
Total embarrassment
Jerry The Saint
04/09/2007, 2:49 PM
You mean as self confessed Arsenal fan Dolan said...
Dolan likes lots of clubs - Arsenal, Walsall, Reading, Wexford Youths, Rebel Army, Derry City. But, as he said, he doesn't like St. Pats - he LOVES St. Pats. :D
Dolan likes lots of clubs - Arsenal, Walsall, Reading, Wexford Youths, Rebel Army, Derry City. But, as he said, he doesn't like St. Pats - he LOVES St. Pats. :D
He also seen at Finn Park every now and again
NY Hoop
04/09/2007, 3:57 PM
Exactly, and you can be sure they dont have the same cringo phone in shows like Today fm have after 5 on a sat with irish 'fans' of liverpool/man utd and even lower div sides like wolves, chartlon (I have heard them) calling in from kerry/mayo etc, all using the 'WE' term when going on about uk football.
The every same morons would be down their local and would be anti england when they play international football.
Total embarrassment
All true. See my sig.
KOH
Dolan likes lots of clubs - Arsenal, Walsall, Reading, Wexford Youths, Rebel Army, Derry City. But, as he said, he doesn't like St. Pats - he LOVES St. Pats. :D
He's only human after all...
bennocelt
04/09/2007, 8:42 PM
True! It's annoying. Or even worse is the 'You must be a Roy Keane fan?' No, I'm a Sunderland fan, the only reason I like Keane is because he's our manager & if result don't improve that might change! The worst of all is the sad Man Utd fans buying Sunderland tops! It's got that bad I sometimes fly over from Belfast to avoid the morons at Dublin airport. By the way Cupcakes, going to see Sunderland play & heading into Newcastle for a night shows what kind of fan you are. No Sunderland fan would step foot in that hole! That's how the rivalry is. That boils my p*ss! The only good thing to come out of Newcastle is the Metro!
that does sound a bit fickle
bennocelt
04/09/2007, 8:48 PM
Lads this is nothing new, and it's hardly a Sunderland Craze, these morons will follow Roy Keane wherever he goes, it has nothing to do with 'supporting Irish players who don't play in Ireland'
i dont think there is anything moronic about following the progress of one of Irelans greatest football players, for many he is a legend. end of
SkStu
04/09/2007, 10:01 PM
that does sound a bit fickle
he is a Bohs fan ffs! :D
Fingal hoop
04/09/2007, 10:50 PM
That's if Hibs actively sought to exploit the Oirish feeling in this land, and whore themselves out as some sort of extention of what it means to be Irish, which they don't, because they realise they are Scottish first and foremost, and want little or no part of the Union Jack vs Tricolour nonsense that has invaded the Old Firm and Tynecastle. Doesn't mean they deny their Irish roots at all though
but it does cast a shadow on the claim that hibs are the true irish team in scotland
maybe the Irish in glasgow had it ougher than those in edinburgh & thats why they cling on to their roots more-
Fingal hoop
04/09/2007, 10:52 PM
because this is ireland mate,i see you live in balbriggan dunno how long your there but have you ever seen the milestone of a weekend,crawling with liverpool celtic or united shirts,dont think id ever see any of them in united park
why would someone in Dublin support a louth team?
Fingal hoop
04/09/2007, 10:55 PM
i dont think there is anything moronic about following the progress of one of Irelans greatest football players, for many he is a legend. end of
i find it hard to equate legend with a man that dresses as a leprechaun and runs around temple bar- good holding midfileder ( are we one of the few countries in the world where a player who stops others playing is a hero)- yes- traitor -yes- self important-yes- cork ****-yes
Calcio Jack
05/09/2007, 8:53 AM
i find it hard to equate legend with a man that dresses as a leprechaun and runs around temple bar- good holding midfileder ( are we one of the few countries in the world where a player who stops others playing is a hero)- yes- traitor -yes- self important-yes- cork ****-yes
World Cup 2002 qualifiers
Roy 1 Portugal 1
Roy 1 Holland 0
the stuff of legend
OneRedArmy
05/09/2007, 8:59 AM
Well done, another thread that has descended into Keane the traitor vs Keane the saviour.
Give yourselves a big clap on the back :rolleyes:
biscuit
05/09/2007, 9:15 AM
:D
Give yourselves a big clap on the back :rolleyes:
as apposed to a slap
bigmac
05/09/2007, 9:23 AM
Well done, another thread that has descended into Keane the traitor vs Keane the saviour.
Give yourselves a big clap on the back :rolleyes:
Ah come on, it lasted 3 whole pages withiout going near it first!
We did have a nice little argument about who knows more about the Sunderland area between two people who have never met each other though :rolleyes:
dcfcsteve
05/09/2007, 9:47 AM
dcfcsteve, before start bad mouthing me, understand where I'm coming from. I've family who live in the Sunderland area. My Grandfather & Dad have been travelling over to Sunderland since the 60's. I've a lot of mates over there & have friends who live in Ireland who come from Sunderland. I've mates who are born & bred in Newcastle too.I know a hell of lot more about Tyne & Wear than you do. My neighbour is from Gateshead & he's a Newcastle season ticket holder & one of my best mates. If you really did live in either Sunderland or Newcastle you'd understand the passion of the people for there cities & there football clubs. I know plenty of people from Sunderland who work in Newcastle & who work for Northern Rock or Sports World. But plenty of people work from Cork & Meath work in Dublin it doesn't mean they like the place.Yes I'm Irish by birth but my background is Sunderland.
My last post on this matter.
You claimed non Siunderland fan would set foot in Newcastle, which is patently nonesense. You yourself have stated that above, as you know Makems who work etdc in the Toon.
I'm not being pedantic here - but to claim fans of one team wouldn't set foot into another town who's economic, social etc fortunes their home town is so intricately inter-twinned with is just pure bravado nonesense. Saying they don't like the town, as you now do above, is a whole different matter.
I don't know if you know more about the North-East than me, but I know that I used to live and work there, and that I've had business operations there for over a decade now, which means I have an extremely good knowledge of the area. I go to Dublin a hell of a lot, have family and friends there etc, but I'd never claim to know the city as well as any English-speaker who'd spent a decent period of time living and working there...
:ball:
dcfcsteve
05/09/2007, 9:54 AM
why would someone in Dublin support a louth team?
There's plenty of 'Dubs' who are are originally form outside the City, and even more Dubs born and bred who's parentage is elsewhere on the island. There's an opportunity there for non-Dublin clubs to get their support. City have a couple of high-profile Dublin fans, for example. If I moved to Dubland, my kids would be brought up City fans.
GAA is a sport where the whole county boundaries thing is sacrosanct, but soccer is a lot more fluid than that (as support of foreign clubs shows ! :eek:).
SunderlandBohs
05/09/2007, 10:04 AM
A lot of people from Balbriggan would consider themselves closer to Drogheda than Dublin. A lot of the old Balbriggan crowd would have been born or have family in Drogheda. I do a lot of my shopping & go out in Drogheda more so that Dublin. But the main thing is they are following a LOI team. I don't think it matters where they live. dcfcsteve, do you realise how sad we are having a debate on a League of Ireland website about two cities in England?
bigmac
05/09/2007, 10:17 AM
Plenty of Waterford fans that live in Kilkenny or Wexford. New Ross is closer than Dungarvan, as is Mullinavat or Mooncoin in Kilkenny. As steve says, it's only the GAA that operate on an intercounty level.
Jerry The Saint
05/09/2007, 12:48 PM
Plenty of Waterford fans that live in Kilkenny or Wexford. New Ross is closer than Dungarvan, as is Mullinavat or Mooncoin in Kilkenny. As steve says, it's only the GAA that operate on an intercounty level.
South Tipp too, as evidenced by our esteemed leader, Mr. Delaney.
but it does cast a shadow on the claim that hibs are the true irish team in scotland
maybe the Irish in glasgow had it ougher than those in edinburgh & thats why they cling on to their roots more-
I never said they were the true Irish team in Scotland, in fact I think any club that claims to be the true Irish team in Scotland needs to remove their head from their ass. What I was responding to was the claim that Celtic was the ONLY Scottish team with a claim to Irish heritage, when clearly only someone with a limited knowledge of Scottish football would claim so. And boohoo about the Irish in Glasgow having it tougher, maybe they are just less patriotic of their own country than their Edinborough (sp?) counterparts?
i dont think there is anything moronic about following the progress of one of Irelans greatest football players, for many he is a legend. end of
Some of us think he is a violent thug that should have been kicked out of football altogether after admitting that he set out to injury Haaland on purpose, and subsequently ended his career. And that's not even mentioning Saipan. So many of us feel that this Jesuslike worship of Keane is moronic. end of
OneRedArmy
05/09/2007, 1:04 PM
Well done Jebus on getting Keane and Celtic into the one post.
Can someone please move this somewhere other than the EL section :mad:
Well done Jebus on getting Keane and Celtic into the one post.
Can someone please move this somewhere other than the EL section :mad:
Hopefully you never have heart problems in later life if a mention of Keane in one point, and Celtic in a completely different one makes you :mad: :rolleyes:
OneRedArmy
05/09/2007, 1:32 PM
Hopefully you never have heart problems in later life if a mention of Keane in one point, and Celtic in a completely different one makes you :mad: :rolleyes:Dying of boredom more likely risk.
Nothing to do with EL football and nothing new added to the many, many, many pointless threads re-hashing the same old turgid arguments that crop up with the depressing regularity on here.
The Scottish football discussion is also a breach of the site rules.
Dying of boredom more likely risk.
Nothing to do with EL football and nothing new added to the many, many, many pointless threads re-hashing the same old turgid arguments that crop up with the depressing regularity on here.
The Scottish football discussion is also a breach of the site rules.
Oh no! Really?! Why I'm sorry this converstion bored you, and that Roy Keane threads bore you general, next time try not clicking into them, its a much more intelligent thing to do.
Oh and the Sunderland Craze has a loose connection with the EL, as do the people who rather support Sunderland, Celtic, etc. Oops I used Roy Keane and Celtic in the same post again, don't get :mad: now :rolleyes:
OneRedArmy
05/09/2007, 1:40 PM
Oh no! Really?! Why I'm sorry this converstion bored you, and that Roy Keane threads bore you general, next time try not clicking into them, its a much more intelligent thing to do.
Oh and the Sunderland Craze has a loose connection with the EL, as do the people who rather support Sunderland, Celtic, etc. Oops I used Roy Keane and Celtic in the same post again, don't get :mad: now :rolleyes:You'll find a much more engaging audience in the paddywhackery/barstool section of the site.
Neither has anything to do with the EL.
You'll find a much more engaging audience in the paddywhackery/barstool section of the site.
Neither has anything to do with the EL.
:rolleyes: I could argue a lot of what is posted in here has little to do with the EL as a collective, but, well I'm just don't care as much about what is said on a free forum as most I suppose. I usually just don't click in to the threads, which again is a sound piece of advice for anyone with :mad: problems
SunderlandBohs
05/09/2007, 2:29 PM
The Irish are the first to have a go at the English over there love of everything that is David Beckham. We are worse when it comes to Roy Keane!
Ronnie
05/09/2007, 2:44 PM
In terms of supporting two teams, ala scandinavia, the difference here is that the majority do support two teams -but its in two different sports GAA and soccer- the average fan supports their county and a British club. That county/parochial loyalty they are not able to transfer to our League - some can do it, but by and large it doesen't happen - the crowd on hill 16 supporting the Dubs would contain a lot of supporters of our clubs, but they'd be only a fraction of the number supporting British clubs.
SunderlandBohs
06/09/2007, 8:53 AM
What I don't understand is why people can't follow an Irish club, foregin club & there GAA team? Surely it's not that hard.
OneRedArmy
06/09/2007, 9:23 AM
What I don't understand is why people can't follow an Irish club, foregin club & there GAA team? Surely it's not that hard."Follow" as in go to as many of the games as possible or "follow" as in read the report in the paper and watch the highlights?
I struggle to get enough time to follow (in the former rather than the latter sense) one team.
SunderlandBohs
06/09/2007, 10:23 AM
Follow as in go to matches. It's not hard. The LOI runs from March to November & the August to May. I go to see Bohs on Friday nights & fly over to see Sunderland play on Saturday. The matches with Irish & English teams never clash. Yeah it's hard to get to away games & you might have stupid things like weddings getting the way. But I don't understand how people can't follow two teams? Most Dublin GAA fans only go to the big football championship matches. Just look at the attendances at the National League games & the hurling. They must have time on there hands.
Fivesilver
06/09/2007, 11:01 AM
I go to see Bohs on Friday nights & fly over to see Sunderland play on Saturday
I don't understand how people can't follow two teams?
How are you fixed for a dig-out? :o
bennocelt
06/09/2007, 11:42 AM
Some of us think he is a violent thug that should have been kicked out of football altogether after admitting that he set out to injury Haaland on purpose, and subsequently ended his career. And that's not even mentioning Saipan. So many of us feel that this Jesuslike worship of Keane is moronic. end of
and thats where we differ:)
and i find it moronic how people dont follow the fortunes of one of irelands best ever players
Bucky-O'Hare
06/09/2007, 8:19 PM
This is my first football post on here so i dont really know what the terms of engagement are.
I dont think that theres anywhere near as big a sunderland craze as Quinn and his boys had invisaged. Im happy about that!
I would like to think that a lot of the people who ventured out to watch them were put off by their supporters half covering EL stadiums in england flags!
I watched the cork match against them and I saw some woman wearing a cork gaelic jersey sitting beside what i presume was her husband wearing a sunderland jersy. How people has the brass to put a sunderland or any other in front of their locals in such an obvious fashion makes me sick.
SunderlandBohs
07/09/2007, 10:04 AM
Yeah, Robbie. We've plenty of LOI armchair fans in this country as well. I know a lot of armchair Bohs fans. I mean Drogheda Utd should be getting 10,000 at a game instead of 1,200 with the population of Drogheda & towns like Balbriggan, Stamullen, Gormanstown etc. I'm not picking on Drogheda Utd, I'm just using example & I know Utd Park couldn't hold 10,000. If the 5 Dublin teams could get 10% of the population of Dublin there would be in or around 10,000 to 20,000 fanbase per club. We're not even getting 5,000-6,000 at games. I know some people can make due to college, work, family reason. As for the woman in the Cork jersey sitting beside the man wearing a Sunderland shirt. Maybe she was from Sunderland & bought the Cork shirt to show her friends back home. Or she could be from Cork & married a man from Sunderland. Or they could be relations of Charlie Hurley. A true Cork & Ireland legend!:D
bigmac
07/09/2007, 2:45 PM
and i find it moronic how people dont follow the fortunes of one of irelands best ever players
Me too - I make it a point to always tune into the Premiership when Liam Brady is a pundit, and I also supported Leeds and then Villa when David O'Leary was managing them...
The Man Himself
07/09/2007, 4:11 PM
Probably says as much about Dundalk as it does the Sunderland craze.... :D
It is just fcuking stupid the whole Sunderland thing. I can't wait until the bubble inevitably bursts - and the way results are going, I may not have to wait too long.
me to, i hate quinn and his sunderland shyte :D
Bucky-O'Hare
08/09/2007, 10:25 PM
Did anyone see the Sunderland flag in the middle of all the tricolours in Slovakia tonight? Hilarious!
I wonder what was going through that persons head?!
NY Hoop
10/09/2007, 11:24 AM
drobably snarled at someone he seen wearing a el shirt
Not at all. Was hanging around with us in Aarhus. Sound lad. And he is actually from sunderland. For some reason he goes to every Ireland game!
Good to see the new Rovers flag there too.
KOH
Docboy
10/09/2007, 1:32 PM
Yea met that lad in Japan before the Cameroon game. Seems like he's sound enough even if it is a bit weird. He's no blow-in.
mrtndvn
10/09/2007, 1:45 PM
What I don't understand is why people can't follow an Irish club, foregin club & there GAA team? Surely it's not that hard.
I follow Derry G.A.A. and Derry City with little difficulty.
e.g. this friday I'll be in United park, and on Sunday Croke pk! Not that hard!
SunderlandBohs
11/09/2007, 8:34 AM
Yea met that lad in Japan before the Cameroon game. Seems like he's sound enough even if it is a bit weird. He's no blow-in.
He wouldn't have been from Cork by any chances?
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