View Full Version : Euro 2008 - eL Summer Break
A face
02/09/2007, 5:38 PM
Lads, does anyone know what the story will be with the break in 2008? Will there be one? There was one for the World Cup and i think it was great. Was anything confirmed about subsequent competitions and having a break?
Should there be a break?
SligoBrewer
02/09/2007, 6:00 PM
no.. why should there be
?
Anto McC
02/09/2007, 6:06 PM
Because there is a major football tournament on at the same time. For the record i voted no but i can see why they might want to have a break.
A face
02/09/2007, 6:08 PM
no.. why should there be
?
There was for the world cup and while people were saying that it was not a good idea coming up to it people agree it was a good move afterwards. If there is no break then there will be fixture changes all over the place trying to avoid clashing with games, its a nightmare.
Its the bigger football competition for Europe bar the World Cup, its madness to go up against it if we are in it or no.
don ramo
02/09/2007, 6:32 PM
ya there will be a break, sure we had a break at the start of june this year and noting was on, id say its to allow players to go on a holiday due to summer football, you cant have players taken two week holiday in the middle of the season, nor can you make them take a holiday in the middle of winter, althought that would be nice get away for the winter
Yes there should be a break - or at least not have fixtures clashing
For the World Cup there was a three week break - however it covered the first three weeks of the tournament, meaning that there were league games and perhaps league cup games at the same time as the semi finals - and maybe the quarter finals also
I seem to remember being at St Pats for a game when quite a big world cup game was on at the same time
Yes there should defs be a break, if not crowds will dwindle and fixtures will clash.
feo123
02/09/2007, 6:39 PM
ireland probably wont be in it, if so why should we have a break
Am all for it.
Gives players a chance to go on hols if they wish, gives injured players a chance to recover if they're lucky (!) enough to be injured over the break, gives the other players a rest, and extends the season at either end.
The only real downside for the fan is the lack of football for the three weeks, but I'm sure UEFA would be good enough to put on some sort of tournament for us to watch on the box.
We had a stupid break this year for no reason. If the 1st division need a break so be it but not for the Premier.
Games can be moved around some of the bigger Euro 2008 games. Clubs cannot afford over 1 month without no home gates.
They stop because the PFAI insisted on 2 weeks holidays for the players and the Ref's union backed them
No other reason
SligoBrewer
02/09/2007, 7:33 PM
they have 5 months hols already ffs!
pineapple stu
02/09/2007, 7:48 PM
We had a stupid break this year for no reason. If the 1st division need a break so be it but not for the Premier.
Games can be moved around some of the bigger Euro 2008 games. Clubs cannot afford over 1 month without no home gates.
There is a reason for it, as noted by others. Only stupid thing is the lack of knowledge on your part before you posted.
UCD are in the middle of a five-week spell without a home game - watch us not go broke and realise that it's not the huge problem you make it out to be.
I seem to remember being at St Pats for a game when quite a big world cup game was on at the same time
If it was the Pat's-UCD game, it clashed with the South Korea v Togo and France v Switzerland ties. And had a marked impact on the crowd.
Pats also played Shels on the night of the Spain-France 1/4 final
Anto McC
02/09/2007, 8:06 PM
Pats also played Shels on the night of the Spain-France 1/4 final
Was that the League Cup 1/4 final too?
no unless Ireland qualify.
A face
02/09/2007, 8:08 PM
If Ireland are in it then it would give clubs a chance to show all the games in their bars/clubhouses and bring in revenue that way. We should also be looking at a stage where eircom League players will actually be running out for the national side at some stage so it would need a break in that case. Obviously will never happen under Stan as you need a plane ticket to get on the side at the moment.
Risteard
02/09/2007, 8:34 PM
Just the two weeks for the group stages.
It should be easy to schedule around the final and semi.
I didn't vote.
superfrank
02/09/2007, 8:35 PM
There should be a break for it. No point dragging down attendances and telly coverage.
Just the two weeks for the group stages.
It should be easy to schedule around the final and semi.
I didn't vote.
The Friday night we had off last year was Mexico v Anglola. Wouldn't think that wuld affect too many
I'll repeat though, this has nothing to do with any other attractions. Its simply so that the players can have a week off in the summer (see this year for bes example)
I'll repeat though, this has nothing to do with any other attractions. Its simply so that the players can have a week off in the summer (see this year for bes example)
Accepting the above, but still think it's bs and defeats the purpose of summer football if you have a break in the middle so players and refs can have a fortnight on the beer.
However, they should wait and see how the fixtures fall before deciding on the weeks. Last time we had full fixtures up against massive games, whilst we were on the break for fixtures like the above. I'd rather the break around the knock out stages if we are to have one - we'll have plenty of notice to reschedule the games around attractive group stage games.
holidaysong
02/09/2007, 11:26 PM
I remember being at Dundalk vs. Kilkenny last year at the same time as Brazil's quarter final and the crowd was shocking. Yes to a break! :)
Paddyfield
02/09/2007, 11:32 PM
ireland probably wont be in it, if so why should we have a break
What if foreign players (who play in the League of Ireland) are called up for their country?
What if Ireland qualify and Irish based LOI players gets called up after a breakout of the scutters in the team hotel and all the Brit based players eat a dodgy curry?
Dodge
02/09/2007, 11:43 PM
What if foreign players (who play in the League of Ireland) are called up for their country?
What if Ireland qualify and Irish based LOI players gets called up after a breakout of the scutters in the team hotel and all the Brit based players eat a dodgy curry?
The we'll treat it like all the summer season countries.
Play on...
mypost
03/09/2007, 12:22 AM
No to a break. The Euro championships won't stop the hard core from going to games. On the night of our game with Kildare last year, it was the night of Argentina v Holland. We won 2-0, the WC game finished 0-0. Which was the better game??
dcfcsteve
03/09/2007, 9:25 AM
Clubs cannot afford over 1 month without no home gates.
But clubs budget on an annual basis (or at least, should do...!). Therefore - so long as their budgeting is right and their income projections are met, what difference does it make if there's a month break ?? We have a 4 month break between seasons every year, yet nothing goes wrong.
Playing through the Euros and having an otherwise avoidable drop in attendances for a month - now that is something many clubs couldn't afford.
Plus - what's the odds of getting any games televised across that period ? We have something live pretty much every month at the momner, providing more income and publicity for clubs.
dcfcsteve
03/09/2007, 9:29 AM
No to a break. The Euro championships won't stop the hard core from going to games. On the night of our game with Kildare last year, it was the night of Argentina v Holland. We won 2-0, the WC game finished 0-0. Which was the better game??
The real question is - how many were at that Kildare match, and how many more could you have expected to attract on another night ?
None of our clubs can live off of our hardcore alone.
Sure why don't we schedule the Setanta Cup Final up against the FA Cup Final whilst we're at it....
dcfcsteve
03/09/2007, 9:31 AM
no unless Ireland qualify.
What if the Northern part gets through......? :eek: :D
Schumi
03/09/2007, 10:36 AM
The experience of the last world cup would indicate that a break would be a good idea but it has to be organised properly. The last time, a midweek series of games was organised straight after the break, when the WC semis were on. :rolleyes:
GuisaSaigon
03/09/2007, 10:57 AM
Yes, we should have a 2 week break, it gives players,club staff fans and all people heavily involved in their clubs a chance to spend a couple of summer weekends with their families. if Ireland qualify a lot of LOI fans will be gone away following Ireland. If we don't qualify, attempts to get barstoolers off their arses will be even less successful than usual.
MyTown
03/09/2007, 11:09 AM
The experience of the last world cup would indicate that a break would be a good idea but it has to be organised properly. The last time, a midweek series of games was organised straight after the break, when the WC semis were on. :rolleyes:
Spot on Schumi
Yes, we should have a 2 week break, it gives players,club staff fans and all people heavily involved in their clubs a chance to spend a couple of summer weekends with their families. if Ireland qualify a lot of LOI fans will be gone away following Ireland. If we don't qualify, attempts to get barstoolers off their arses will be even less successful than usual.
Agree with this too
mypost
03/09/2007, 11:35 AM
The real question is - how many were at that Kildare match, and how many more could you have expected to attract on another night ?
None of our clubs can live off of our hardcore alone.
Afair, the attendance was less than 400, with no visiting fans. Down to the glamour match on tv, and the appalling weather that night. We were the first game back after the break, the next week we brought 200 to Kilkenny on another awful weather night, clashing with France-Spain. It was Kilkenny's biggest gate of the season. The hard core will go everywhere, fairweathers and barstoolers won't go, but even if there was no WC games on that night, they still wouldn't go.
harpstilidie
03/09/2007, 11:42 AM
There should be a break Euro 2008 or no Euro 2008.
NY Hoop
03/09/2007, 1:58 PM
If Ireland qualify yes otherwise no. The MLS played right through the World Cup last time and the US were in it. Not a like for like example but........
Last year we were in Kilkenny the same night as France v Spain. Awful stuff. As touched on already it can be done if there are no midweek fixtures.
They had a week break this year which needlessly drags the season into november.
As most games in the league are played on friday nights there are only 2 group games down for friday the 13th of June. The following friday one quarter final will be played so no need for any break.
Are you listening FAI? No need for a break any year unless Ireland qualify. And while you're at it lose the thursday night football too. It's a joke.
KOH
Calcio Jack
03/09/2007, 2:17 PM
What if the Northern part gets through......? :eek: :D
How could that be relveent to the Republic...still on the basis that the ROI team wore black armbands in their next game following after the death of Princess Diana in 1997 and the English team didn't (now that's a contradiction if ever there was one) nothing the FAI does will surprise me:D
dcfcsteve
03/09/2007, 3:13 PM
How could that be relveent to the Republic...still on the basis that the ROI team wore black armbands in their next game following after the death of Princess Diana in 1997 and the English team didn't (now that's a contadiction if ever there was one) nothing the FAI does will surprise me:D
In the absence of the Republic at a tournament, there'd be more than passing interest in the south to watch NI matches if they qualified.
Some to cheer them on - some to see them lose. But more interest than in a tournament without them.
mypost
03/09/2007, 4:45 PM
In the absence of the Republic at a tournament, there'd be more than passing interest in the south to watch NI matches if they qualified.
The Republicans and the GAA-heads would. But NI's fortunes are about as relevant to the rest of us, as Norway's.
don ramo
03/09/2007, 5:05 PM
sure look at the scottish league, they take a break in there season a lot of leagues are attmpeting to insert one in there calender, it nice to recharge the battteries and gear up fo the business end of the season
A face
03/09/2007, 9:38 PM
The Republicans and the GAA-heads would. But NI's fortunes are about as relevant to the rest of us, as Norway's.
Norway, no theres a team worth supporting, NI and Norway it is so :ball:;)
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.2 Copyright © 2024 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.