Junior International Squad Announced

[joeSoap]

see here (http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2331)

[Hoops 1967]

see here (http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2331)

There's a good spread of players from clubs around the country, that's good to see :ball:.
How do players get picked for the squad?, is it through games with their club sides in the FAI cup or is it through playing with their oscaor traynor team.

[Athenryboy]

its through all competitions really, going well in the FAI & Oscar Trayor helps enormously in exposure, also how your side fares in the league and provincial cups comps.

[abbeyvale]

its through all competitions really, going well in the FAI & Oscar Trayor helps enormously in exposure, also how your side fares in the league and provincial cups comps.

Only one from Limerick??? What a joke

[inexile]

who else would you pick from limerick? i also think he has picked the wrong player from limerick as well by the way im not a big fan of hartnett, but fair play to him he is in the squad for the 3rd or 4th time in a row, so it looks like im wrong!!

[abbeyvale]

who else would you pick from limerick? i also think he has picked the wrong player from limerick as well by the way im not a big fan of hartnett, but fair play to him he is in the squad for the 3rd or 4th time in a row, so it looks like im wrong!!

Just of the top of my head!!!! Pa McGarry (Pike) maybe Colm Enright (Pike)

[inexile]

both fine players but not good enough compared to the players in their position in the squad, the only player i could think of would be alan carroll, and if alan barry was fit he would hsurely be worth a look. after that i cant think of many

[littleman]

pike won the mjc and wembley had good run in last years fai,aint no comprehendin how or what he uses to pick his side,no one at all from cork an 1 from kerry,they dont even have a decent league, a few from st micheals and they did'nt do a thing and then dub,dub,dub go figure.

[inexile]

the majority of the best players in cork play in the munster senior league thereby rendering them ineligible for the junior team, steven o mahony is a quality player a former ireland underage international and ex limerick fc player, im from limerick and believe the league is quite strong but there are no real stand out players in my opinion

[Brazil Nut]

pian 1 from kerry,they dont even have a decent league,

2 players from Kerry, James Sugrue Dynamos and Steve O Mahony Lisselton. Tough to see the sense in that Kerry league is only average and way behind Limerick. Tralee Dynamos lost 7-0 in the league playoff to Killarney. If that's the difference between first and second in the league than it's a shambles. In saying that it's obviously based on individual players and not league strenght.

[littleman]

thought if you played league of ireland you couldnt play junior or intermediate international:confused:

[smellyfeet]

thought if you played league of ireland you couldnt play junior or intermediate international:confused:

You can play Junior Intl but not Amatuer Intl.

[sky blue]

You can play Junior Intl but not Amatuer Intl.
how can daniel power justify his place on the irish squad he has not plated a match yet this year and personally i dont think he is good enough.

[Green_Hoop]

From what I've heard its mostly favours that get you onto that team..

[Dr Mad]

Favours???? What are you on about????? Painting Gerry Smyths house?? Dropping his kids to school???

Cop on will you.

[magpies]

From what I've heard its mostly favours that get you onto that team..

Thats a ridiculous comment to make, maybe it was the fact that he was played on the wing against northern Ireland instead of upfront where he always plays, gerry Smith might play him upfont the next day and get a better look at him

[Green_Hoop]

Shows how little you know about Junior soccer...When its rife(In limerick anyway) that the big clubs are offering players junior int. caps if they sign on with them..Look at St.Michaels did horribly last year and yet still manage to have 3/4/5 players on the int. side,where as the team who won the Munster Junior has 1..odd no?

[see's it]

please tell me who you think pike should have on it?

[Green_Hoop]

Hartnett,McGarry,Wall...Those 3 would walk onto most Junior teams in the country..and for Arguments sake Enright would deserve a mention.

[Super Rovers]

Hartnett,McGarry,Wall...Those 3 would walk onto most Junior teams in the country..and for Arguments sake Enright would deserve a mention.

yes they would walk onto most but not all. thats why the other two didnt make it. although id say dave wall might make the squad next time.

[manalishi]

yes they would walk onto most but not all. thats why the other two didnt make it. although id say dave wall might make the squad next time.

Dave wall was in before, he was playing with Lim37 when this squad was picked,

[see's it]

Hartnett,McGarry,Wall...Those 3 would walk onto most Junior teams in the country..and for Arguments sake Enright would deserve a mention.

enright couldnt get on it 5 years ago he'l hardly be able for it now its slower you get and when your slow already it shows more

[Dr Mad]

Green Hoop you are talking through your hat. I'll ask you again what "favours" can players or clubs do for Gerry Smyth who is a paid FAI employee and manager? Sure, clubs can attract players if they already have Junior Internationals in their squad, and give players a better chance of getting in the shop window, but NO club can guarantee any player a cap. Only Smyth can do that. And I do know the Junior Game cos I've played and managed in it for 25 years. Smyth may not be perfect but he picks the team he wants and rewards loyalty. Let him down and you are gone, but do your stuff and he will look after you and trust you, eg Flynn for 10 years and now Chalky.

[littleman]

How or who he decides to pick for his squad is always goin to be a bone of contention.Their are always goin to be clubs and more so players who think they deserve a call up and dont get one and I think everyone will agree on that.

I for one was very dissapointed at some of the players left out but in hindsight that was wrong of me ,he has a hard job to do and their is always a flip side to the decisions/squads he makes and I'd say he knows that only to well.

But' their are big question marks as to why for instance as it was previously pointed out that teams that have had a bad or quiet season last year,have 3 or more in the squad and teams that had a great season last year,and more so playin well again this year have none.Team's that are performing week in week out and getting wins for me are the ones that deserve the the honour.

I am not nor will I ever wish to be envolved in management,but I know enough about sport to know that its the teams that are doin well,and more importantly winning are the ones that you would be better pickin your squad from,at any level.Loyalty is very important but ability is more so.If a player is playing with a winning side and standing out in his respective team/league then you have a better chance of getting him to carry that form on with the national side than a player who stands out with a poor/decent side.

[jug2004]

look just for arguments sake clonmel town have had good runs in the FAI in recent years and have been in 3 of the last 4 munsters and prob would have been 4 in a row if not for what happened lat year, surley they have someone who should be considered

[see's it]

he'd prob be illegal and then ireland would be throwin out but first it would drag on for 6 months

[progress]

enright couldnt get on it 5 years ago he'l hardly be able for it now its slower you get and when your slow already it shows more

thats nonsense, it has been proven that football is a late specialisation sport.this is why goal keepers can play till 40 and centre halfs till 35 because there experiance makes them better players over time.A defender will argueably be at his best in his late 20s and a goalkeeper may take till his early 30s to reach his peak

[C.T.F.C]

look just for arguments sake clonmel town have had good runs in the FAI in recent years and have been in 3 of the last 4 munsters and prob would have been 4 in a row if not for what happened lat year, surley they have someone who should be considered

TBH I think that Town prove the maxim of the sum being greater than the individual parts. I dont think that Town possess anyone with the dedication and ability to perform consistently at that level. That being said, if M. Coady can maintain his form i'll be amazed if he does'nt get a call up within a few years.

[C.T.F.C]

he'd prob be illegal and then ireland would be throwin out but first it would drag on for 6 months

:D LMFAO. Did u think that up all by yourself? :rolleyes:

[see's it]

:D LMFAO. Did u think that up all by yourself? :rolleyes:

no 5 or 6 of us use the same computer

[see's it]

thats nonsense, it has been proven that football is a late specialisation sport.this is why goal keepers can play till 40 and centre halfs till 35 because there experiance makes them better players over time.A defender will argueably be at his best in his late 20s and a goalkeeper may take till his early 30s to reach his peak

thats all grand when the players are full time pros not when there juniors

[littleman]

They played 3 games last season.Won 2 lost 1.If as it is said it is based on how you perform the must have done well twice and not so well once.STAY WITH ME HERE.

My point is that last year bar an ill timed game against the yanks his squad won 2 very good games.Yet its a drasticly different squad goin to Scotland.Loyalty to last seasons squad is'nt very present bar the odd few.

I can understasnd that being based futher up the country their would be more of a chance to watch say Leinster based players but,between Pike/Carrick/Grattan/WemblySalthill Devon and Villa their are only 2 players.These were most of the best sides outside Leinster last season and 4 or the Fai quater finalists.Dose'nt seem much of a reward for thier efforts dose it.:confused:

[Green_Hoop]

People outside the Pale gettin done over again...

Teams should be picked on form,the players on form being selected.Loyalty only works at club level,international matches are too inconsistent to reward loyalty

And as See's it said more than likely one of the "Town" lads will be illegal and get us booted out(at least Pike had the sense to leave there League of Ireland players out) :P

[silvercircle]

Dave wall was in before, he was playing with Lim37 when this squad was picked,

Dave wall called up for the squad V scotland on sat

[themerryman]

And as See's it said more than likely one of the "Town" lads will be illegal and get us booted out(at least Pike had the sense to leave there League of Ireland players out) :P[/QUOTE]


It makes perfest sense to have a few pike players in the team ,they will be 1st to moan and spot the illegal players that put them to shame and made the silly error of letting them in the back door.Cant beat having a few sore loosers in the team sometimes it works in your favour..:D

[Green_Hoop]

To Quote another person these 2 texts must put before and after the quote [Quote] and [./Quote] without the . its very easy really... and merryman,if a team is stupid enough to play illegal players our good friends at St.Michaels will only be too happy to inform us...

[littleman]

Pa Connors from Grattan got a late call up but was away on holidays,the joys.:(

[jug2004]

look merry man fact is your still rantin on about the cup ye won by default!!! Anyone wonder every club in the country hates pike!! As for town being better than the sum of there parts i'm not sure, goalkeeper fitter than ever, consistent and playing well bar sundays mix up, coady could be top class, guy in the middell of the field a really superb player find of the season in the league so far, and moroney is surely good enough for a re-call, he did after all score 2 in his last game for the international squad and never got called again, The team can't be consistently present in MJC semi's and finals without having some top class players in the squad surely???

[Tipp Man 2]

look merry man fact is your still rantin on about the cup ye won by default!!! Anyone wonder every club in the country hates pike!! As for town being better than the sum of there parts i'm not sure, goalkeeper fitter than ever, consistent and playing well bar sundays mix up, coady could be top class, guy in the middell of the field a really superb player find of the season in the league so far, and moroney is surely good enough for a re-call, he did after all score 2 in his last game for the international squad and never got called again, The team can't be consistently present in MJC semi's and finals without having some top class players in the squad surely???

I'd agree and I'm a saints fan.. Dwayne B is well worth a look as well.. not sure about keeper though.. too prone to basic errors and at that level will be punished. young coady and burns look like the best prospects. obviously the foreign player in the middle ( not being from ireland) would be ineligible.. think aaron is hard done by but at mo strikers are 2 Killesters fellas, joe watson so its fairly competitive...

[Big Ears]

Having played against Clonmel a few times the last few years at U17 and Youth level(for Nenagh AFC) Dwayne Burns looks a very promising player and seems to be improving all the time .

I've only seen that keeper once now but he very nearly got Clonmel knocked out against us , his mix-up with a defender allowed our equaliser and a second mix-up right at the end of extra time almost allowed myself to get a winner(why couldn't it have gone on target:o)

[shelbourne1904]

They won 1-0 against Scotland

[owngoal]

Junior International Fixture
Peter’s Hill Sports Complex, Glasgow

Republic of Ireland 1 – 0 Scotland
Lacey 7

David Lacey won the game for Ireland by scoring the all-important solitary goal with only seven minutes gone.

The Scots were left chasing the game for the remaining 83 minutes and they couldn’t convert their possession into worthwhile scoring chances.

Match-winner Lacey was voted Man of the Match and proved a thorn in the Scottish defence throughout. He was supported well by Joe Watson in attack, who won his first cap today and was unlucky not to see his name on the score-sheet.

The match was played at a fast pace on a tight all-weather surface and this led to a number of clashes that produced some nasty injuries on both sides.

Ireland carved out the most clear-cut chances in the game and Kirwan, Watson, Lacey and Mernagh were presented with opportunities to increase the lead.

The Irish defended bravely in the second half in which Walsh, Carraig, Breen, Fitzsimons, O’Mahony, and Fitzgerald were all outstanding.

Robbie Coombes and David Wall also excelled in midfield in this, the 60th meeting with the Scots.

Republic of Ireland Junior team:
Adrian Walsh (Carrick United)
Stephen O’Mahoney (Lisselton)
James Walsh (St. Michael’s)
Paul Breen (St. Michael’s)
Andy Fitzsimons (Killester United)
James Sugrue (Tralee Dynamos)
Wayne Fitzgerald (St. Michael’s)
David Wall (Pike Rangers)
Robbie Coombes (Portmarnock)
Joey Watson (Waterford Crystal)
David Lacey (Killester United)

Substitutes used: A, Hannon, A, Mc Donnell, K. Hartnett, R. Carraig, P. Kane, J. Mernagh, K. Kirwan.

[Green_Hoop]

Pike ROVERS...

[see's it]

they cant be that big a club if people didnt even know there correct name prob got it mixed up with the real big club in limerick fairview rangers

[Green_Hoop]

they cant be that big a club if people didnt even know there correct name prob got it mixed up with the real big club in limerick fairview rangers

Whats the got to do with anything?Must have been a typo,didn't see any of the Fairview U-12's team mentioned above..

Nice try see's it to start yet another flame thread,if your attitudes like that your better off not coming on here.

ON TOPIC: They played well from all accounts and he made full use of his bench too in fairness to the guy.

[BigBird]

What about a few Fairview players getting a chance in the Junior squad. They are going really strong at the moment and think they will go very far in the FAI this year!!!

[Green_Hoop]

What about a few Fairview players getting a chance in the Junior squad. They are going really strong at the moment and think they will go very far in the FAI this year!!!

Didn't Pike hammer them 3 weeks ago? 4-1 I think it was?

[see's it]

green hoop do you even go to any of the pike matches?

[Monster]

Didn't Pike hammer them 3 weeks ago? 4-1 I think it was?

Green hoop

It will different the next time they meet and it will be a lot closer.Fairview were in disarray at the start of the season but they are improving every game and have added a few good players to there squad.

[silvercircle]

Didn't Pike hammer them 3 weeks ago? 4-1 I think it was?

it was 5.....1 it must have been raining that sunday morning!!!!