Shay Given and Stephen Reid - Fit for September or NOT?

[back of the net]

Hey All - does anyone have an update on the GIVEN and Stephen Reid injury situations? - will they be fit and ready for slovakia and czech rep - i am hearing so many different versions of them being injured and fit - does anyone know what exactly is the situation with them?:confused:

[Stuttgart88]

Much as I like Steven Reid, it'd be a massive gamble playing him next month. There's no way he'll be match fit even if he comes back for Blackburn this weekend.

I expect Given tp be back, his injury sounds relatively slight.

[Armando]

Given has a slight groin strain but worryingly according to Sam Allardyce it hasn't shown signs of improvement the last 2 weeks:(

So, it's going to be touch and go. It wouldn't surprise me if his first game back is against slovakia....he's that important and will be desperate to play even if it's against his clubs wishes.

[NeilMcD]

Me too

[paul_oshea]

Andy Reid will definitely be fat for September :0)


TP, you are on good form today, whats wrong?:p is the missus away :)

[Sligo Hornet]

Me too

That's three of you then, with Moscow Mule:D

[co. down green]

Given has a slight groin strain but worryingly according to Sam Allardyce it hasn't shown signs of improvement the last 2 weeks:(

So, it's going to be touch and go. It wouldn't surprise me if his first game back is against slovakia....he's that important and will be desperate to play even if it's against his clubs wishes.


Irish boss Stephen Staunton told the Irish Independent, “Shay is a lot better than we were first told. I thought we were going to lose him for the two games in September but it’s looking as if he’ll be ok.

“Then again, it’s a muscle injury and we’ll take nothing for granted so we’ll just have to wait and see. Once you start picking up injuries in any area and it’s a recurrence, you’ve got that possibility it will continue to happen.”

[LeixlipRed]

“Then again, it’s a muscle injury and we’ll take nothing for granted so we’ll just have to wait and see. Once you start picking up injuries in any area and it’s a recurrence, you’ve got that possibility it will continue to happen.”

Anyone laugh out loud at this? A Recurrence continuing to happen???? :eek::D

[carloz]

I think Given will make it back......evenif Reid is back i wouldnt risk it. His long injury lay off started awyt Germany last year so im sure Blackburn wont want him playinh

[Pád Von Tirpitz]

Stephen Reid is brutal anyway. I don't understand his fan club. He is a big lummox with a terrible first touch. He is in no way the future of our midfield, at any rate.

[DmanDmythDledge]

Stephen Reid is brutal anyway. I don't understand his fan club. He is a big lummox with a terrible first touch. He is in no way the future of our midfield, at any rate.
He was quality in the 05/06 Premiership season, so good that Alex Ferguson made an enquiry about him. The one time he has played centre mid for Ireland in the friendly against Sweden he was excellent. He'd be a perfect partner for Andy Reid.

[eirebhoy]

Spurs also wanted him last summer.

[irishfan86]

This is the same Alex Ferguson who regularly picks John O'Shea. The same Alex Ferguson who bought David Bellion. I could go on.

The same Alex Ferguson who is the most successful manager in English history?

Re: Bellion: every manager has made a bad signing.

As for O'Shea, Ferguson hasn't made O'Shea a key member of his squad, rather he has recognized him as a very versatile player (which he is), and has used him accordingly.

When Man U has a fully fit squad O'Shea is a bench player every time.

I don't even like Man U, but to claim that Ferguson is a poor judge of talent just smacks of idiocy.

[carloz]

Regarding Bellion, Ferguson had just signed a scout from Sunderland and upon arriving at Old Trafford he convinced Ferguson to buy Bellion. He was free so hardly a disaster

[beautifulrock]

Regarding Bellion, Ferguson had just signed a scout from Sunderland and upon arriving at Old Trafford he convinced Ferguson to buy Bellion. He was free so hardly a disaster

he was a disaster and was not free, £2m agreed by tribunal.

[zenokelly]

Given was on the bench today for Newcastle. Hopefully, he's fit enough to start for them next week so he gets a bit of match practice in. fingers crossed he gets no further set-backs!

[co. down green]

Carr could be out for several weeks after being stretchered off today for Newcastle.

[Soko]

Carr could be out for several weeks after being stretchered off today for Newcastle.


He walked off after 5 mins. No excuse for doing your hammy after 2 mins into a game

[NeilMcD]

Good news in my view.

[RogerMilla]

not exactly gutted about carr to be honest

[humpmeister7]

Hmmm, I think Carr is a body we can afford to be without...but who will replace him...a brick maybe???

[livehead1]

He walked off after 5 mins. No excuse for doing your hammy after 2 mins into a game

What a reaction ! I wonder would it have been the same if it was one of the more popular Ireland players, say Richard Dunne doing the same after two minutes. You can get injured at any time, and anyone who has played at any reasonable level will be aware that these things happen, simple as that.

[LeixlipRed]

Unless it was some freak occurrence an injury that early normally means he already had an injury there and didn't tell anyone or he didn't warm up properly. And before you ask, yes I have played the game at a reasonable level

[Wolfie]

Carr could be out for several weeks after being stretchered off today for Newcastle.

One less player to deprive Finnan of the right back slot.

[tetsujin1979]

I really can't believe some of the responses to Carr's injury. We're not in a position to be disregarding one of the few regular starters at a Premier League team. If Finnan, or O'Shea had picked up the same injury minutes into a game, it would be panic stations all around as to who would start in defence, and the answer would hardly be Stephen Kelly or Joey O'Brien, it would be Carr.
One more injury to a defensive player and our first choice starting back 4 is gone. Our number one replacement is looking likely to miss the 2 biggest games of Stan's career thus far, and the 2 games that will most likely decide if we're going to Austria/Switzerland next year.

Disgraceful.

[NeilMcD]

I think its informed by the view that if fit Carr might get in ahead of Finnan at right back. I would rather Stephen Kelly John O Shea and Steve Finnan at right back rather than Stephen Carr. As a result it is an injury at the moment that could in fact improve Irelands chances of qualifying in my view.

Carr has been rubbish for Ireland for the last few years. I think the new attitudue of the Mc Shanes, Hunt Doyle, Ireland and Long has had a good effect on the likes of Robbie Keane, John O Shea and Richard Dunne but I am not so sure about Carr.

[zenokelly]

I really can't believe some of the responses to Carr's injury. We're not in a position to be disregarding one of the few regular starters at a Premier League team. If Finnan, or O'Shea had picked up the same injury minutes into a game, it would be panic stations all around as to who would start in defence, and the answer would hardly be Stephen Kelly or Joey O'Brien, it would be Carr.
One more injury to a defensive player and our first choice starting back 4 is gone. Our number one replacement is looking likely to miss the 2 biggest games of Stan's career thus far, and the 2 games that will most likely decide if we're going to Austria/Switzerland next year.

Disgraceful.

Carr has been DISGRACEFUL for club and country since returning from that career threatening injury a few years back. I haven't seen him play in a match where he seems to be on pace with the other players on the pitch. He makes hatfulls of mistakes every match for Newcastle.

I was happy when I read it. Now Stan has one less mistake he can make. And I wouldn't be surprised if Denmark was Carr's last game in the Ireland shirt. He'll find it hard to get back into the Newcastle team if his replacement is any use at all( Big Sam looking for cover in defence). Finnan to right back!!!!!!!!!!

[Dr. Ogba]

I really can't believe some of the responses to Carr's injury. We're not in a position to be disregarding one of the few regular starters at a Premier League team. If Finnan, or O'Shea had picked up the same injury minutes into a game, it would be panic stations all around as to who would start in defence, and the answer would hardly be Stephen Kelly or Joey O'Brien, it would be Carr.
One more injury to a defensive player and our first choice starting back 4 is gone. Our number one replacement is looking likely to miss the 2 biggest games of Stan's career thus far, and the 2 games that will most likely decide if we're going to Austria/Switzerland next year.

Disgraceful.

With all due respect tets, I'd sooner have any one of O'Shea, Stephen Kelly, Joey O'Brien or Kevin Foley ahead of Carr at FB and obviously Steve Finnan ahead of all of the above...

Stephen Carr is a very very very very poor player...

[geysir]

Carr has been DISGRACEFUL for club and country since returning from that career threatening injury a few years back
If that was true then I wonder why every one of the 4 managers he has been under at Newcastle can't wait until he is even match fit before starting him.
I'm with Tets on this one.

[zenokelly]

With all due respect tets, I'd sooner have any one of O'Shea, Stephen Kelly, Joey O'Brien or Kevin Foley ahead of Carr at FB and obviously Steve Finnan ahead of all of the above...

Stephen Carr is a very very very very poor player...

Agree

[gufct]

he was walked off the pitch not stretchered but it looks bad.

[as_i_say]

Carr WAS an exceptional player in his day up until the injury that forced him out of wc 2002. since then he has struggled with form and pis sed off people by throwing in the ireland towel before hitting 30 and then coming back once things started to look up a little.

I wouldnt have him first choice but he is a valuable squad player and has definitely contributed more in terms of good performances (albeit years ago ) than the likes of john o shea EVER has in his 40 odd caps.