LCD TV Owners

[dcfcsteve]

I've just bought a 40" LCD TV.

Ignoring the fact that it's probably just that little too big (I reckon the 37" model would've been perfect..) watching it tends to make my eyes bloody sore.

Does anyone else with an LCD TV have this problem, as it's really feckin' me off ??

[soccerc]

I've just bought a 40" LCD TV.

Ignoring the fact that it's probably just that little too big (I reckon the 37" model would've been perfect..) watching it tends to make my eyes bloody sore.

Does anyone else with an LCD TV have this problem, as it's really feckin' me off ??

LOL

Had this very same problem myself.

Eventually I hooked it up to pc as a monitor and calibrated the colour and contrast with software (Spyder). Also changed the viewing mode to natural.

Other than that, Optrex:D

[OneRedArmy]

Also viewing distance very important for an LCD.

You are supposed to be at least two to three times the screen size away from the TV, so for a 40 inch thats about 7-10 feet away.

[anto1208]

Ive a 42" plasma and my chair is about 5 to 6 foot from the screen ( its in the small box room in my house connected up to the playstation ) Ive found if im watching a DVD ( i dont have a TV signal in that room ) it is too big and gets blocky and blurry like watching a film on a pc monitor . but when the High Def stuff ( PS3 / blueray disk ) is hooked up its crystal clear .

But sometimes when gaming i have to do a bit of messing around with contrast and sharpness brightness etc which is a pain . might look into that spyder software .

Also mine has a built in Digital signal recever anyone know how i go about getting free to air channels or is that still only in the uk

[beautifulrock]

Steve with ORA with this, you need to be at least the 7/10 feet suggested away from the screen. This will not only improve the picture but should stop the sore eyes as well.

[dcfcsteve]

Good advice guys.

I've measured out the distance from my head to the screen and it's 94 inches (i.e. 7ft 8inches). My screen is 40" (3ft 4 inches) - so on the 2-3 times ratio I need to be 80-120inches away. 94 inches is within that range - albeit in the lower third though, which may be a problem. I could have it recessed into my chimney breast, but that would only gain me another 6 inches or so.

I did a lot of research before I bought the telly, and annoyingly didn't find any advice about screen size-to-distance ratios. Pain.

SC - did that computer software tinkering solve your viewing problems ?

[soccerc]

Good advice guys.

SC - did that computer software tinkering solve your viewing problems ?
Steve, made a huge difference and made the viewing experience much better

[dcfcsteve]

I spoke to Samsung earlier today about my TV and eyes issue.

Bizzarely, they said that the guidance for distance from a 40inch TV is 8 to 12 feet...! When I asked them what it was for a 37" TV - only a quarter of a foot smaller - they said it was to be 4 to 6 feet away. When I asked them why you needed to be twice as far away from a TV that was less than 8% bigger, they couldn't give me an answer and just said that 'that was what eye people recommend'.

Anyways - anyone want a cracking 40inch 1080p colour LCD TV, barely a week old and hardly used ? Make me an offer I can't refuse, as I'm trading down to the 37inch.......:)

[soccerc]

I spoke to Samsung earlier today about my TV and eyes issue.

Bizzarely, they said that the guidance for distance from a 40inch TV is 8 to 12 feet...! When I asked them what it was for a 37" TV - only a quarter of a foot smaller - they said it was to be 4 to 6 feet away. When I asked them why you needed to be twice as far away from a TV that was less than 8% bigger, they couldn't give me an answer and just said that 'that was what eye people recommend'.

Anyways - anyone want a cracking 40inch 1080p colour LCD TV, barely a week old and hardly used ? Make me an offer I can't refuse, as I'm trading down to the 37inch.......:)

Off the top of my head steve but from my schooldays, almost 30 yrs ago a 40" would be about 23% bigger viewable area and not 8%

[strangeirish]

Off the top of my head steve but from my schooldays, almost 30 yrs ago a 40" would be about 23% bigger viewable area and not 8%
That's all fine and dandy, but did your calculations take into account the size of Steve's head???:D

[beautifulrock]

Steve, I have done the same thing went for the 40" when the 37
2 made a lot more sense. Am a bit sorry as well but am able to sit 7/8ft away and do not have the sore eye issue.

[paul_oshea]

steve, ill pick it up from ya and buy if off ye for £500. deal? more than you'll get on ebay anyhow :)

[anto1208]

The size of the tv isnt the problem its the imput , a 37" LCD will give you the same problems with your eyes, Either get in High Def or buy a proper old fashioned big telly, LCD and Plasma's give really poor picture quality that is what hurts your eyes .No one should have a Flat tv with only a digital signal going into it .

My 42" is fine but i only use it for gaming( 2 to 6 hours ) and ive never got pains in my eyes , but watching my mates 36" tv gives me a headache after 20 -30 mins . the TV in my sitting room is a old big bulky thing i wouldnt watch tv on anything else .


Failing that just stick 1 1/2 inches of black tape around the edge of the 40" screen hey presto 37" :D

[dcfcsteve]

Off the top of my head steve but from my schooldays, almost 30 yrs ago a 40" would be about 23% bigger viewable area and not 8%

You've got your maths way wrong here SC ! :D

Divide 100 by 37, and then multiply it by 40. You get 108.1 - giving you the percentage difference between the two as +8.1%.

If a 40inch screen was 23% smaller it'd be a 31.8" screen. 23% is almost a quarter, and even a Free State education (complete with regular spanking from the priests) would tell you that a quarter off off 40 should leave you with 30 - not close to 37...... :p

[LeixlipRed]

I think he's talking about the percentage difference between the viewing area of a 40" and a 37". Not the percentage difference between40" and 37"

[dcfcsteve]

I think he's talking about the percentage difference between the viewing area of a 40" and a 37". Not the percentage difference between40" and 37"

Ahhh - gotcha. But is there really almost an extra quarter of viewing area added by only 3 inches ?

Doesn't sound right, but I can't be arsed working out the dimension of 2 triangles to calculate it for myself. Will just have to take SC's word for it so !

[kdjaC]

What are you watching on it?

Its a HDTV i would imagine so anything other than HDTV will look gack on it.


kdjac

[soccerc]

You've got your maths way wrong here SC ! :D

Divide 100 by 37, and then multiply it by 40. You get 108.1 - giving you the percentage difference between the two as +8.1%.

If a 40inch screen was 23% smaller it'd be a 31.8" screen. 23% is almost a quarter, and even a Free State education (complete with regular spanking from the priests) would tell you that a quarter off off 40 should leave you with 30 - not close to 37...... :p

Steve

I think maybe you've got it wrong. A fundamental error that the De la Salle brothers ensured we wouldn't make

The viewable area is measured on the diagonal not the horizontal.

For example, a 32" is only 27" x 15.5" total area. A 40" I think from a rough calculation in my head is about 34.5 x 21" so you do the math.

[dcfcsteve]

Steve

I think maybe you've got it wrong. A fundamental error that the De la Salle brothers ensured we wouldn't make

The viewable area is measured on the diagonal not the horizontal.

For example, a 32" is only 27" x 15.5" total area. A 40" I think from a rough calculation in my head is about 34.5 x 21" so you do the math.

I'm taking your word for it SC, as I can't be arsed to crunch the numbers.....! :D

[paul_oshea]

Doesn't sound right, but I can't be arsed working out the dimension of 2 triangles to calculate it for myself. Will just have to take SC's word for it so !


you mean you cant steve.

[dcfcsteve]

you mean you cant steve.

D'uhhhh - my brain hurts.......! :D

So - you gonna give me £650 for the TV then dude ? It's got full warranty, and that's half the retail price......

[paul_oshea]

£450 and another D-squared shirt and its a done deal :)

http://homecinema.timeuk.com/tv/lcd_screens/17887/37202/TIME_L240_40%22_LCD_TV?gclid=COf8-ZOngo4CFQ0eEgoddkfJOw

[dcfcsteve]

£450 and another D-squared shirt and its a done deal :)

http://homecinema.timeuk.com/tv/lcd_screens/17887/37202/TIME_L240_40%22_LCD_TV?gclid=COf8-ZOngo4CFQ0eEgoddkfJOw

That's a nice TV ! Only - it's not the one I'm selling...... :)

Mine is the 1080p version - which in layman's terms, is the best picture quality you can buy for your money (the closest thing TV screens have got to looking through a window. And when you watch films, you can really see the quality).

Plus - it doesn't look anything like that gammy generic picture they've used. That's a decent Samsung TV panel in a sh!tty Time-branded fascia. Yeuch.....

I'm actually getting used to mine now, so price has gone up to £700. I'll have the D-Squared shirt anyways..... :D

[Dodge]

Mine is the 1080p version - which in layman's terms, is the best picture quality you can buy for your money (the closest thing TV screens have got to looking through a window. And when you watch films, you can really see the quality)
Bit late for the hard sell now steve. You've spent the rest of the thread slagging it off.
:D

[beautifulrock]

That's a nice TV ! Only - it's not the one I'm selling...... :)

Mine is the 1080p version - which in layman's terms, is the best picture quality you can buy for your money (the closest thing TV screens have got to looking through a window. And when you watch films, you can really see the quality).



Yes Steve a little too late :) and in regard to looking through the window, by the sounds of it you need to do it that way to ensure you are 10 feet away from it :D

[paul_oshea]

the closest thing TV screens have got to looking through a window. And when you watch films, you can really see the quality


actually i was watching a little bit of spiderman in pc world and that is exactly how i described it to the missus. It literally looks like you are looking through a window.

Ah well steve, good luck with ebay ( hope ye have better luck than i do ). Not a chance i would give ye near £700 :D

[dcfcsteve]

Bit late for the hard sell now steve. You've spent the rest of the thread slagging it off.
:D

It's got nought to do with the TV though. If my Living Room was a foot wider, I'd have been evangelical about it...... :D

Actually, the screen no longer hurts my eyes (Samsung got me to reset it all) and I've grown used to the size, so I'm actually going to keep hold of it now anyway. It's grown on me in the last week

[Dodge]

Actually, the screen no longer hurts my eyes (Samsung got me to reset it all) and I've grown used to the size, so I'm actually going to keep hold of it now anyway. It's grown on me in the last week

Damn right too. If I paid that type of money for something I'd happily adjust to it...

[Jerry The Saint]

It's grown on me in the last week

That's the last thing you need if it was too big to begin with. :eek:

[paul_oshea]

http://www.myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html

[anto1208]

http://www.myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html

I done it for my TV shows the difference your imput makes ( HDTV OR DIGITAL ) im presuming when they say maximum they mean minimum distance from the screen .:confused:

mine is around 6 feet from my seat but has the High def resoloution and i think its just right .


Viewing Distances Based on Visual Acuity
14.6 Feet Maximum Viewing Distance for NTSC/PAL(720x480/720x576)
5.5 Feet Maximum Viewing Distance for HDTV(Fully resolved 1080i; 1920 x 1080)

[kdjaC]

Mine is the 1080p version - which in layman's terms, is the best picture quality you can buy for your money (the closest thing TV screens have got to looking through a window. And when you watch films, you can really see the quality).



Where you getting 1080p input from?

kdjac

[dcfcsteve]

Where you getting 1080p input from?

kdjac

Nowhere - I'm just future-proofing...... :D