Clare League 2007/08

[CousinSylDolan]

Think it was cheeky going down in the box(apologies to the lad if im wrong). Jason Stretton hit first spot kick. Cheeky hit second.

It was not Cheeky... Does not really matter who it was. He done well to win his team 2 penalties that were'nt.

[old git]

Think it was cheeky going down in the box(apologies to the lad if im wrong). Jason Stretton hit first spot kick. Cheeky hit second.


i'm supprised jason let cheeky take the 2nd penalty.. .. whats the story papa-j. :ball:

[Side Cutter]

Wednesday's Results:

Lifford 5 - 0 Rineanna

Hacker, what went wrong ?

It was actually 6 - 0.Lifford also missed a penalty.
Rineanna were missing 6-7 players that would have started.Very poor performance though.....

[plasticpitch]

It was actually 6 - 0.Lifford also missed a penalty.
Rineanna were missing 6-7 players that would have started.Very poor performance though.....
What did you think of lifford´s new ground???

[First]

lovely setup badly sign posted though..but great set up showers and the whole lot..fair play to them..

Was the grass cut:p

[Side Cutter]

What did you think of lifford´s new ground???

New grounds are excellent plasticpitch.Two lovely pitches and great to see dressing rooms and showers.Well done lifford.:ball:

[old git]

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New grounds are excellent plasticpitch.Two lovely pitches and great to see dressing rooms and showers.Well done lifford.:ball:


have you never been to newmarket / moher / newtown to name a few all have dressing rooms & showers also .. :ball:

every club in preimier league should have the same set up also :

[Side Cutter]

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have you never been to newmarket / moher / newtown to name a few all have dressing rooms & showers also .. :ball:

every club in preimier league should have the same set up also :

Yes i have been to these places and its great to see.Iv read my post over and cant see where i said they didnt:confused:

[smellyfeet]

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have you never been to newmarket / moher / newtown to name a few all have dressing rooms & showers also .. :ball:

every club in preimier league should have the same set up also :



Just on the topic of facilities..

Premier only.
Avenue Utd
Newmarket Cel
Burren Utd
Lifford
Bridge Celtic
Bunratty
Rineanna Rvs
Kildysart Cel
Moher Celtic
Newtown

I know Newtown, Newmarket, Bunratty and now Lifford have good facilities,not sure of the rest but do the rest of the Clubs have anything
or even have any plans in the pipeline

[old git]

Yes i have been to these places and its great to see.Iv read my post over and cant see where i said they didnt:confused:

only because you were so excited to see dressing rooms & showers i thought you had not visited other ground mentioned ... long overdue for a lot of clubs and more clubs should have the same facilities :ball:

[Side Cutter]

Just on the topic of facilities..

Premier only.
Avenue Utd
Newmarket Cel
Burren Utd
Lifford
Bridge Celtic
Bunratty
Rineanna Rvs
Kildysart Cel
Moher Celtic
Newtown

I know Newtown, Newmarket, Bunratty and now Lifford have good facilities,not sure of the rest but do the rest of the Clubs have anything
or even have any plans in the pipeline

Moher have also good facilities and im hearing that rineanna look set to get the grass cut in the next few weeks so things are looking good for them:D

[old git]

Moher have also good facilities and im hearing that rineanna look set to get the grass cut in the next few weeks so things are looking good for them:D

grass was being cut last night passed pitch on way to work yesterday evening .. looked like wembley from a distance :D:D

[CousinSylDolan]

Avenue 1-0 Moher
Newmarket 3-4 Bridge Celtic

Avenue have 4 wins from 4. Some start for them. They make an interesting trip to Newmarket on Sunday morning.

[CousinSylDolan]

i see the clare league have changed their policy on sending off's..a player who was sent off last friday played the next game for his club on the sunday ..does this mean the 1 game automatic suspension is gone..

Care to elaborate... What division are we on about at least???

I would presume the rule still stands as it was not changed at the AGM. We mistakenly broke the rule last year and lost points so I expect the same punishment applies to everyone.

[old git]

Care to elaborate... What division are we on about at least???

I would presume the rule still stands as it was not changed at the AGM. We mistakenly broke the rule last year and lost points so I expect the same punishment applies to everyone.

is it a standard 1 match ban ... or do you have to wait untill club receive notification from clare league :confused:

[shelbourne1904]

I would presume the rule still stands as it was not changed at the AGM. We mistakenly broke the rule last year and lost points so I expect the same punishment applies to everyone.[/QUOTE]

This is not a clare league rule it is a FIFA directive.If the player played in the next match his team should loose the points.

[MikeBassett]

FAI UMBRO Youths Cup 2007/08

CLARE :- Round 1 (3 games)

1 Corofin Harps V Avenue United
2 Newtown FC V Moher Celtic
3 Newmarket Celtic V Bridge United

LIMERICK DISTRICT :- Round 1 (2 games, 11 byes)

1 Hospital Crusaders V Wembley Rovers
2 Moyross United V Corbally United
BYES:
Aisling Annacotty
Cappamore Celtic
Croom United
Fairview Rangers
Geraldines
Janesboro
Kilmallock United
Knockainey
Mungret Regional
Murroe AFC
Summerville Rovers

CLARE / LIMERICK DISTRICT :- Round 2 (8 games)

1 Knockainey V Newtown/Moher Celtic
2 Fairview V Janesboro
3 Summerville Rvrs V Corofin Harps/Avenue Utd
4 Newmarket Celtic/Bridge Utd V Moyross Utd/Corbally Utd
5 Mungret Regional V Cappamore Celtic
6 Murroe AFC V Croom Utd
7 Geraldines V Aisling Annacotty
8 Kilmallock Utd V Hospital Crusaders/Wembley Rvrs

[bigguy]

I would presume the rule still stands as it was not changed at the AGM. We mistakenly broke the rule last year and lost points so I expect the same punishment applies to everyone.

This is not a clare league rule it is a FIFA directive.If the player played in the next match his team should loose the points.[/QUOTE]

those this mean bridge utd will have points taken off them for the league ahead? or just the point they got on the day???:confused:

[Bossman]

www.claresoccer.net updated with fixtures & results

[shelbourne1904]

This is not a clare league rule it is a FIFA directive.If the player played in the next match his team should loose the points.

those this mean bridge utd will have points taken off them for the league ahead? or just the point they got on the day???:confused:[/QUOTE]

Well what should happen is the league should spot the fact that it was a"next game" and award the points to the opposition in that match.If they continue to play the player while he still has not served the match suspension then the same should happen until he does.However i would not be dependant on the league to implement its own rules without an appeal from a club.

[CousinSylDolan]

I .
This is not a clare league rule it is a FIFA directive.If the player played in the next match his team should loose the points.[/QUOTE]

So there is no such thing as a right to appeal. A player is suspended without this basic right. Sometimes a player might be on the wrong end of mistaken identity and miss a game even though he is totally innocent. I agree a player needs to serve a suspension if he is sent off but he surely has the right to appeal. In the current set-up he does not have this right.

[CousinSylDolan]

Good win for Moher against an underperforming Bunratty. Game very close all the way thru . Bunratty hit the post with a penalty about 5 mins after Moher took the lead. . Some players away for the weekend were missed by Bunratty but well done to Moher for battling hard and earning the 3 points. Jonathan Clohessy in midfield was outstanding for Moher.

[shelbourne1904]

This is not a clare league rule it is a FIFA directive.If the player played in the next match his team should loose the points.

So there is no such thing as a right to appeal. A player is suspended without this basic right. Sometimes a player might be on the wrong end of mistaken identity and miss a game even though he is totally innocent. I agree a player needs to serve a suspension if he is sent off but he surely has the right to appeal. In the current set-up he does not have this right.[/QUOTE]

Your adding bits to the scenario!!!!!If there is no appeal then he has to be suspended automatically for the next match.The next question is can you appeal before serving the "automatic" suspension??As I have no precedence I dont know,,,but I would imagine so .This needs to be clarified but as you point out it would seem corrrect to always have the right to appeal and therefore it would appear that if you appeal you dont have to comply with next match suspension until a decision is made.What was the case in the instance that was earlier refered to???

[Prem Rep!]

those this mean bridge utd will have points taken off them for the league ahead? or just the point they got on the day???:confused:[/QUOTE]

Player is currently serving his suspension. Not that it would make any difference to the overall standings in the group Bridge would lose points from the shield game and there is no precedent of a team being deducted points for up and coming league season.
He shouldn't have played but new management were unaware of the ruling as player received two yellows and club delegate was not in the country to clarify the situation.
No excuse, but I think it revisits the concerns raised at the AGM when club delegates requested a rule book for the season.
I got the impression that there are rules but they are written on scraps of paper somewhere and are not very clear.

[CousinSylDolan]

Your adding bits to the scenario!!!!!If there is no appeal then he has to be suspended automatically for the next match.The next question is can you appeal before serving the "automatic" suspension??As I have no precedence I dont know,,,but I would imagine so .This needs to be clarified but as you point out it would seem corrrect to always have the right to appeal and therefore it would appear that if you appeal you dont have to comply with next match suspension until a decision is made.What was the case in the instance that was earlier refered to???

Not sure what I'm adding to the senario... I'm just making the point a player should be given the right to appeal and at the moment its unclear how he has this.
As regards the situation last year the manager was unclear of the new rules. He thought we had to revieve notification from the lg before the player misses a game.

[shelbourne1904]

Not sure what I'm adding to the senario... I'm just making the point a player should be given the right to appeal and at the moment its unclear how he has this.
As regards the situation last year the manager was unclear of the new rules. He thought we had to revieve notification from the lg before the player misses a game.

Your original question didnt mention an appeal.Just the question was the player automatically suspended for the next match.

A)If he is sent off then he immediately get his club to write to the league appealing his sending off.Once that is done then "its under appeal" and can then play until the appeal is decided.

B)How any manager could make that mistake after the league made it absolutely clear at the first meeting is hard to fathom.Unless he was not present at that meeting and the club representative did not tell him.If that was the case then that can only be considered incompetence on the part of the club structure.

[CousinSylDolan]

Your original question didnt mention an appeal.Just the question was the player automatically suspended for the next match.

A)If he is sent off then he immediately get his club to write to the league appealing his sending off.Once that is done then "its under appeal" and can then play until the appeal is decided.

B)How any manager could make that mistake after the league made it absolutely clear at the first meeting is hard to fathom.Unless he was not present at that meeting and the club representative did not tell him.If that was the case then that can only be considered incompetence on the part of the club structure.

Not sure why you keep referring back to the incident last season. We were wrong in playing the player for whatever reason and got punished for it by a points deduction. I was never trying to say any different.

What I am saying is it is unclear (to me anyway) the situation regarding player suspensions/appeals. You seem to know a lot more about it than any of the rest of us..
1.If a club does send a letter off straight away does it have to be presented before the lg meets on a Monday night.
2. Who should the letter be sent to? Does the lg have an appeal's committee.
3. Does the lg send back approval that the player is ok to play the following game or is it just assumed he is clear to play when the letter of appeal is sent.
4. Our B team play tonight and Wednesday. If a player is sent off tonight and an appeal is posted 1st thing tomorrow does that clear him to play Wednesday.
5. Whats to stop clubs appealing every sending off just to get a player to play in the next game. If the appeal is lost is there an extra punishment?

I'm not trying to say the new set up is wrong but I just feel there are a lot of holes in it that are unclear especially with regard to appealing a suspension. Maybe your response will enlighten me:confused:

[devilfish]

Your original question didnt mention an appeal.Just the question was the player automatically suspended for the next match.

A)If he is sent off then he immediately get his club to write to the league appealing his sending off.Once that is done then "its under appeal" and can then play until the appeal is decided.

B)How any manager could make that mistake after the league made it absolutely clear at the first meeting is hard to fathom.Unless he was not present at that meeting and the club representative did not tell him.If that was the case then that can only be considered incompetence on the part of the club structure.


Shels,

Have a look at the FAI rule book on www.claresoccer.net, scroll down to Rule 50 Part 3 (a) (ii) and (e) and this should clarify everything for you. It seems, from what I've read and forgive me if I'm wrong, that you feel a player sent off is entitled to play the next game as long as the appeal is in ASAP and deemed "under appeal". This is definitely not the case and I feel maybe you should notify other club committee members of this or maybe your rep at the CSL meeting never clarified this to you and other club officials. If the suspension is more than 1 game, then a player and club are entitled to appeal. This could prove to be a very incompetent and costly mistake on behalf of your club structure!! ;)

[tulla b]

jst wanted to say these two teams served up a great game yesterday. good attacking football played,plenty of commitment and excitement, while also played in a very sporting fashion. looked as if newmarket were gaining the upper hand early in the second half after they equalised but a couple of substitutions seemed to disrupt them. avenue look to be building a very good young side again and will take some catching. fair play to all involved yesterday

[old git]

jst wanted to say these two teams served up a great game yesterday. good attacking football played,plenty of commitment and excitement, while also played in a very sporting fashion. looked as if newmarket were gaining the upper hand early in the second half after they equalised but a couple of substitutions seemed to disrupt them. avenue look to be building a very good young side again and will take some catching. fair play to all involved yesterday


what was the score :ball:

[smellyfeet]

what was the score :ball:

1 all

[shelbourne1904]

Shels,

Have a look at the FAI rule book on www.claresoccer.net, scroll down to Rule 50 Part 3 (a) (ii) and (e) and this should clarify everything for you. It seems, from what I've read and forgive me if I'm wrong, that you feel a player sent off is entitled to play the next game as long as the appeal is in ASAP and deemed "under appeal". This is definitely not the case and I feel maybe you should notify other club committee members of this or maybe your rep at the CSL meeting never clarified this to you and other club officials. If the suspension is more than 1 game, then a player and club are entitled to appeal. This could prove to be a very incompetent and costly mistake on behalf of your club structure!! ;)

I said""question is can you appeal before serving the "automatic" suspension??As I have no precedence I dont know,,,but I would imagine so"

The Rule reads"
(e) All of the foregoing punishments with the exception of the Automatic one match suspension may be appealed
through the various Divisional Associations and in accordance with the Rules of The Association and FIFA.

Which seems clear enough but what happens for instance in the case of an incorrrect player being sent off???
Thats slightly different to the rule being introduced and not knowing of its existence at all??

[riverside]

"question is can you appeal before serving the "automatic" suspension??As I have no precedence I dont know,,,but I would imagine so"

The Rule reads"
(e) All of the foregoing punishments with the exception of the Automatic one match suspension may be appealed
through the various Divisional Associations and in accordance with the Rules of The Association and FIFA.

Which seems clear enough but what happens for instance in the case of an incorrrect player being sent off???
Thats slightly different to the rule being introduced and not knowing of its existence at all??

Well that should mean an automatic life long ban for the ref.;)

[magpies]

Shanagolden v Moher Celtic
Newcastle West Rovers V Newtown

Any thoughts/predictions?

[CousinSylDolan]

Shanagolden v Moher Celtic
Newcastle West Rovers V Newtown

Any thoughts/predictions?

I fancy both Clare teams to win. We played NWR 2/3 years ago and they were very poor. Also Moher will have their gaelic football players back after they lost to Wolfe Tones last week so they should be strong enough although I know Shanagolden are decent.

[magpies]

I fancy both Clare teams to win. We played NWR 2/3 years ago and they were very poor. Also Moher will have their gaelic football players back after they lost to Wolfe Tones last week so they should be strong enough although I know Shanagolden are decent.

Yea I would have expected the two Clare sides to advance but the PRO of the Desmond League gave the verdict to both Desmond League sides, Shangolden are new to the Premier will be physically strong but average and NCW Rovers got promoted to div 1 last year

[chappie]

would i be right in presuming that this weeks round of evening games will be the last til the spring again.......

[CousinSylDolan]

would i be right in presuming that this weeks round of evening games will be the last til the spring again.......

Correct... Very dark at the end of last night's game which started on time @ 6.30...

[Young Lad]

I was just wondering how many games a player can play for the A and B team. Its been around 10 years since we had two teams.

[smellyfeet]

I was just wondering how many games a player can play for the A and B team. Its been around 10 years since we had two teams.

It used to be that a B-team player could play 5 games for A-team.
An A-team player can't play for B-team......I'm not sure if this rule has changed

[smellyfeet]

Anyone got the League Tables.

[CousinSylDolan]

Anyone got the League Tables.

www.claresoccer.net

[smellyfeet]

www.claresoccer.net

I've tried that site already and its not up to date

[CousinSylDolan]

I've tried that site already and its not up to date

It is for me... Just got this table off it.


P W D L F A GD PTS
Avenue Utd 5 4 1 0 12 7 5 13
Lifford 5 2 2 1 9 3 6 8
Bridge Celtic 5 2 2 1 13 9 4 8
Newmarket Cel 4 1 2 1 8 7 1 5
Bunratty 3 1 1 1 6 5 1 4
Burren Utd 3 1 1 1 2 3 -1 4
Moher Celtic 4 1 1 2 2 3 -1 4
Newtown 4 1 1 2 7 9 -2 4
Rineanna Rvs 4 0 3 1 3 8 -5 3
Kildysart Cel 3 0 0 3 4 11 -7 0

[smellyfeet]

It is for me... Just got this table off it.


P W D L F A GD PTS
Avenue Utd 5 4 1 0 12 7 5 13
Lifford 5 2 2 1 9 3 6 8
Bridge Celtic 5 2 2 1 13 9 4 8
Newmarket Cel 4 1 2 1 8 7 1 5
Bunratty 3 1 1 1 6 5 1 4
Burren Utd 3 1 1 1 2 3 -1 4
Moher Celtic 4 1 1 2 2 3 -1 4
Newtown 4 1 1 2 7 9 -2 4
Rineanna Rvs 4 0 3 1 3 8 -5 3
Kildysart Cel 3 0 0 3 4 11 -7 0

Cheers Syl,,Must be something wrong because i tried again just there but same thing:confused:

[old git]

It used to be that a B-team player could play 5 games for A-team.
An A-team player can't play for B-team......I'm not sure if this rule has changed

as far as i know A team player can only play for B team if he transfers to B team .. ...:ball:

[Bannerman]

Cheers Syl,,Must be something wrong because i tried again just there but same thing:confused:

Apparently you need to refresh the page once you are in it. Opening the web page will only bring you to the last time you viewed it.

[studsup]

Apparently you need to refresh the page once you are in it. Opening the web page will only bring you to the last time you viewed it.

Ya, for some reason that won't work at all in some places:confused:

[chappie]

well lads outside of the premier who is fancied to win the other 3 divisions....

i would presume that bridge united should return at the fist time of askin with possibly corofin and kilmaley doin well as well...did shannon olympic and mountshannon lose many players....


in the second surely bridge united b have to be fancied after last season while i see avenue b have made an impressive start 11 goals in 2 games also think that inch crusaders can do well in that division as they have some nice footballers and are strong physically.....


in the third rhine rovers and bridge celtic b were unlucky not to be promoted in what was a very competitive league last season.....the 3 teams that dropped down will fancy their chances as well kilkishen newmarket b and ennistymon its hard to look past these 5 and it could well be tight again....

[shelbourne1904]

FAI Newcastle West Rovers 1 Newtown 2
Any other results