Drogs V's Helsingborg [Archive]

WeAreRovers

03/08/2007, 11:42 AM

Best of luck to Drogheda. Hopefully they will make it four out four for Irish teams to knock Swedish opposition out of Europe.

Can't see it happening though.

Hammarby beat the Corkies.

KOH

eelmonster

03/08/2007, 12:11 PM

Will it be played in Dalymount? Best of luck to the Drogs.

Poor Student

03/08/2007, 12:25 PM

Guaranteed full house with the Larsson factor

Yep, good financial draw.

seand

03/08/2007, 12:26 PM

Wouldn't normally say this in a thousand years, but c'mon the Drogs! Irish clubs have a great record against Swedish opposition, get into them, they're easy!

Torn-Ado

03/08/2007, 12:30 PM

Wouldn't normally say this in a thousand years, but c'mon the Drogs! Irish clubs have a great record against Swedish opposition, get into them, they're easy!

Considering all their teams breezed into the second round and probably third round of the UEFA cup and CL respectively, they will be anything but easy.

Graemerz

03/08/2007, 12:30 PM

Helsingborg don't seem to be a patch on Elfsborg who put Linfield out of Europe this season. Although Elfsborg were the better team Linfield could have easily sneaked a win. With Drogheda in the middle of their season, and with a little bit of self-belief they could quiet easily qualify.

paudie

03/08/2007, 12:50 PM

Drogs don't concede many and might get through.Good draw financially as well.

Coefficient wise I would expect Drogs to win or draw the home leg at least

Graemerz

03/08/2007, 12:57 PM

Considering all their teams breezed into the second round and probably third round of the UEFA cup and CL respectively, they will be anything but easy.

Elfsborg did not breeze past Linfield.

pete

03/08/2007, 1:15 PM

Coefficient wise I would expect Drogs to win or draw the home leg at least

Drogs should be able to have a good go at Helsingborgs as they not a top Swedish side. Drogs would be expected to make some contribution to the coefficients anyway.

sfc red

03/08/2007, 1:20 PM

coefficients me arse.

finnpark

03/08/2007, 1:27 PM

I know some will disagree with this but it is a huge disadvantage being drawn at home first. In these type of games in Europe the first 45 minutes is usually about finding out about the opposition and there is a "settling down" phase. So really only the 2nd 45 mins is worth anything. I think that if Derry were drawn away first they would have probably got a draw and then beat Pyunik at home. In my opinion Drogs will struggle because of this. Hope they do play well, the coeffs are badly needed.

The Lilywhites

03/08/2007, 1:38 PM

coefficients me arse.

Agreed.

ger121

03/08/2007, 1:42 PM

Drogs have a good record at home in europe of the last 2 years. 3 wins so far. I'd fancy them to get a win at home, they will need it though as it will be tough away. Still el sides have a decent record in recent years against the Swedes and even though Cork got knocked out it was close over the 2 legs.

TheBoss

03/08/2007, 1:43 PM

I think this a good draw for both teams, it should be 2 good games. I think that Drogheda have a great chance to go through, a bit like Derry, Helsingborg are not great form and Larsson is not producing as he used too.

EireBadBoy

03/08/2007, 1:46 PM

Agreed.

Seconded.

Celdrog

03/08/2007, 2:01 PM

Looking forward to see how Gavin and Gartland deal with Larsson

OneRedArmy

03/08/2007, 2:03 PM

Seconded.Motion carried.

Dyl10

03/08/2007, 4:08 PM

I know some will disagree with this but it is a huge disadvantage being drawn at home first. .

I do disagree for the simple reason that the team playing away in the 2nd leg have 90 mins to sucker punch their opponents with an away goal, and if the tie goes to ET, then the away team really do have the edge as both a win and a score draw will carry them through

higgins

03/08/2007, 4:25 PM

This is a fantastic draw.
Lowest of the seeded teams and well down the Swedish league. Couldn't have asked for much more. UEFA have been very kind to Drogheda this season.

Home Win
Away draw

jebus

03/08/2007, 4:27 PM

Anyone else have a feeling that 'the Larsson Factor' could well translate into Helsingborgs being more supported over here, and possibly at the game itself, than Drogs?

Tis-smeee

03/08/2007, 4:49 PM

Anyone else have a feeling that 'the Larsson Factor' could well translate into Helsingborgs being more supported over here, and possibly at the game itself, than Drogs?

Yes me, if GOD is playing you must worship

dcfcsteve

03/08/2007, 4:55 PM

Anyone else have a feeling that 'the Larsson Factor' could well translate into Helsingborgs being more supported over here, and possibly at the game itself, than Drogs?

There'll doubtless be punters looking to go and see Larsson, but he ain't the man he once was - and even Celtic fans have largely moved on.

Plus - most of those with a barstool persuausion would think Drogs v Hammarby sounded as interesting as watching paint dry.

So there'll be a bigger crowd than there otherwise would've been, but I'd be surprised if there's a mad scramble for tickets just because of one ageing former Celtic player in an otherwise unglamorous and unknown team. Especially if it's shown on TV.

eirebhoy

03/08/2007, 5:06 PM

There'll doubtless be punters looking to go and see Larsson, but he ain't the man he once was - and even Celtic fans have largely moved on.
No they haven't. :) Larsson is Celtic's greatest ever player imo and there'll be plenty there just to see him. That's not to say they'll actually be supporting Helsingborg though which a few people have actually suggested.

Flume

03/08/2007, 5:16 PM

Anyone else have a feeling that 'the Larsson Factor' could well translate into Helsingborgs being more supported over here, and possibly at the game itself, than Drogs?

Yes, is the simple answer.Im sure the celtic brigade will be making an appearance at their game.

eirebhoy

03/08/2007, 5:17 PM

Yes, is the simple answer.
How in the name of jaysus did you come to that conclusion? Don't be silly. Do you think Celtic fans really care how Helsinborg do? They'll go to see their idol play football. Plenty of people would go to see Maldini play if he was in this country and this is no different.

Torn-Ado

03/08/2007, 5:49 PM

Anyone else have a feeling that 'the Larsson Factor' could well translate into Helsingborgs being more supported over here, and possibly at the game itself, than Drogs?

Thats crap to be honest. Just because a former Celtic player is playing against Drogheda doesn't mean every Celtic supporter will jump on the Helsingborgs bandwagon. How many Celtic supporter do you know who became Barcelona and Manchester Utd fans after Larsson signed for them?

It seems like people would say anything to get their anti Celtic digs in.

jebus

03/08/2007, 6:01 PM

Thats crap to be honest. Just because a former Celtic player is playing against Drogheda doesn't mean every Celtic supporter will jump on the Helsingborgs bandwagon. How many Celtic supporter do you know who became Barcelona and Manchester Utd fans after Larsson signed for them?

It seems like people would say anything to get their anti Celtic digs in.

:rolleyes: Celtic and Scottish Football aren't anywhere near important enough to register anything other than a mild interest at the best of times. As for your Larsson query, I know quite a lot of Celtic fans who wanted Barcelona to beat Arsenal in last year's Champions League final simply because Larsson was a Barca player, and considering the average Irish Celtic fan couldn't give a monkey's about the EL, let alone Drogheda, I'm sure they'd happily put their lot in with Henrik's team

eirebhoy

03/08/2007, 6:04 PM

There's a big, big difference between wanting your hero to win the champions league and a qualifying match for the UEFA cup.

jebus

03/08/2007, 6:05 PM

There's a big, big difference between wanting your hero to win the champions league and a qualifying match for the UEFA cup.

You've obviously never had a hero :p

Flume

03/08/2007, 6:09 PM

Torn-Ado

03/08/2007, 6:09 PM

:rolleyes: Celtic and Scottish Football aren't anywhere near important enough to register anything other than a mild interest at the best of times. As for your Larsson query, I know quite a lot of Celtic fans who wanted Barcelona to beat Arsenal in last year's Champions League final simply because Larsson was a Barca player, and considering the averahe Irish Celtic fan couldn't give a monkey's about the EL, let alone Drogheda, I'm sure they'd happily put their lot in with Henrik's team

So you're comparing Arsenal, an English club in a champions league final (By the way, Many Celtic fans wanted Arsenal to lose that match because it officially qualified Celtic for the group stages in the CL at their expense) to Drogheda United, an Irish club in Europe. Thats wrong.

As for the first comment, Celtic have been mentioned plenty of times in this threads and others over the past few weeks for some strange reason.

jebus

03/08/2007, 6:16 PM

So you're comparing Arsenal, an English club in a champions league final (By the way, Many Celtic fans wanted Arsenal to lose that match because it officially qualified Celtic for the group stages in the CL at their expense) to Drogheda United, an Irish club in Europe. Thats wrong.

Why is it? They're both football teams in Europe, playing teams on at an equal level, with a player in one side that has huge personal support over here, I think it's pretty apt to be honest. I'm sure there were many Celtic fans who just cared about their team getting into Europe, but from the barstool I was sat in, and cheering on Arsenal, for that game the majority in the pub I was in had little interest until Larsson came on

As for the first comment, Celtic have been mentioned plenty of times in this threads and others over the past few weeks for some strange reason.

By me? Didn't think so, so take your 'you have a anti-celtic' agenda elsewhere please

Ceirtlis

03/08/2007, 10:53 PM

People wont turn up and support Helsingborgs over Drogheda, they might cheer if he scores but sin e. Anyways Drogheda should have plenty of support to there not to worry about it.

eirebhoy

04/08/2007, 6:13 AM

You've obviously never had a hero :p
Larsson is Celtic's greatest ever player. And a gentleman at that.

eirebhoy

04/08/2007, 6:16 AM

Why is it? They're both football teams in Europe, playing teams on at an equal level, with a player in one side that has huge personal support over here, I think it's pretty apt to be honest. I'm sure there were many Celtic fans who just cared about their team getting into Europe, but from the barstool I was sat in, and cheering on Arsenal, for that game the majority in the pub I was in had little interest until Larsson came on
1. They obviously aren't great fans if they didn't realise how important it was for Barca to win that night.
2. We've grown to love Henrik Larsson. Of course we want to see him win the Champions league. And win it he did.

bennocelt

04/08/2007, 6:33 PM

coefficients me arse.

rubbish, if we dont get good results in Europe our teams wont get seeded then wont get easy teams to beat, which derry didnt take advantage of but the Drogs did

dancinpants

04/08/2007, 6:54 PM

rubbish, if we dont get good results in Europe our teams wont get seeded then wont get easy teams to beat, which derry didnt take advantage of but the Drogs did

I've said it before and I'll say it again, ask Gothenburg, Gretna what coefficients mean to them.....while yer at it, ask Pyunik. :rolleyes: