St Pats

[pineapple stu]

You genuinely believe a team who've lost 4-0 to Monaghan would have matched a 5-0 defeat against Odense?

With respect, you're deluded. New signings or not.

[Sheridan]

Didn't see or hear the game (and fully expected Pat's to lose) but one can only surmise that Johnny Mac must have got his tactics badly wrong. Teams don't bother scoring more than three in Europe nowadays unless they're enjoying opening their opponents up at will.

[Saint MacDara]

I think Barker was injured very early on and replaced by Paisley (not blaming him for the goals),that might have upset the situation in defence,Ryan and Rogers at eachother throats after the second goal didnt help either.

I know Odense are a very good side but we have to sort out our defence pronto,theyre not gelling together.

[Kingdom]

Listened to the game all the way in to work from just after the 2nd goal and it genuinely seemed like Pats were poor and the tactics were wrong. All I've heard this year is how good quigley is and he was played out of position in both legs? ??

As for the Ryan and Rogers inicident thats making Irish teams look like amateurs

[NeilMcD]

Just like Batty and Le Saux and Grobbelaar and Mc Manaman

[higgins]

Just for the record it was Shels that missed the peno last season. Talk to anyone who attended the game and you'll be told that the 3-0 Odense was very very harsh. In Tolka we were one up with plenty of chances for 2-0 and then midway through the second half we just seemed to stop playing and things faded out. Games back then came at a stage when the players were going to late wage payments and there was talk of not playing games within the camp.

They are better than St Pats, they may also have been better than Shelbourne but 5-0 results are something we need to avoid.

The problem for me since the draw was made was the talking up of Odense into something they are not. OK they are better but it seemed from the pats fans at least that everyone went expecting a defeat.

Well done to Drogheda
Lets hope for a good draw in the morning

Also comparing the Shels team of today with the one that lost to Monaghan 4-0 is silly.
Shels would have lost to Odense with either team. This doesn't excuse the fact Pats are a better side than 5-0. European games are a chance to showcase the league and this year we've failed and failed in some style so far.

[DmanDmythDledge]

Odense may be a "good team" but if you're happy that the title challengers are losing 5-0 to a team like them then you obviously don't have any ambition for the league. Mind you, you do support UCD so I suppose...just joking!:D
Where have I said that I'm happy?

[TonyD]

Odense may be a "good team" but if you're happy that the title challengers are losing 5-0 to a team like them then you obviously don't have any ambition for the league.

The key words there are title challengers, which Sligo are some distance from being, so imagine what they could have done to your lot :eek: Ok, so you feel hard done by that you didn't get the euro slot, time to get over it.

Having said that, 5-0 is a poor, poor result, no getting around that. Having seen the home leg I didn't expect us to progress, but I didn't expect a drubbing either. Pats are not in the form they were at the start of the season though, so that has to be taken into account. Ah well, if we get back into europe next year I'm sure we'll do better. This is only the start of the Inchicore revolution after all :)

[bellavistaman]

Dunno how people can laugh, rivarly goes out the window when there representing the country, i was gutted for Pats bad result. Doubt theres a 5 goal difference between the teams, so obviously a really bad day at the office.

[Fester]

Dunno how people can laugh, rivarly goes out the window when there representing the country, i was gutted for Pats bad result. Doubt theres a 5 goal difference between the teams, so obviously a really bad day at the office.

Finally a bit of sense !!

[WeAreRovers]

Dunno how people can laugh, rivarly goes out the window when there representing the country, i was gutted for Pats bad result.

I know this has been done to death but personally I laughed out loud when I heard this result. And judging by the amount of texts I got so did a lot of other Rovers fans.

I would fully expect Pats to feels the same way if the shoe was on the other foot. I sometimes think that only the Dublin clubs really get the concept of 'rivalry' in this League.

KOH

[bellavistaman]

I sometimes think that only the Dublin clubs really get the concept of 'rivalry' in this League.

Bull****. Ask limerick, or if we were in corks league, the rivalry would be off the roof!!

[kdjaC]

We got slaughtered 5 makes it look somewhat good, we nearly had a shot.

Lol tho Shels and Sligo fans :D

Shels only chance of Europe in next 5 years is a league cup game away to Derry..

Sligo well the same really.


We all here on a technicality , chant of the night :D

kdjac

[desaintsno.12]

Well done Pat's! They shouldn't have been in Europe at all this season so fair play to them for not embarassing the league...

Stupid post. your sligo .... get over yourselves. one full season back in the top flight and you go on like you would of done better ? OB would of bet anyteam in this league. and would of ran up a higher score against yourselves.look at your season against ours

[kdjaC]

I know this has been done to death but personally I laughed out loud when I heard this result. And judging by the amount of texts I got so did a lot of other Rovers fans.

I would fully expect Pats to feels the same way if the shoe was on the other foot. I sometimes think that only the Dublin clubs really get the concept of 'rivalry' in this League.

KOH

I agree i feel dirty for agreeing witha rovers fan but i agree. I texted a rovers mate last night with the score he sent 27 texts of AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Should have expected it really.

kdjac

[RonnieB]

I want to see everyone other than Longford loose :) Never fully understood this getting behind yer rivals no matter what the competition. Co efficient this and that.

[DvB]

European trips are all about giving the fans a well earned break travelling away & representing your team abroad, in this case the pats fans had some fun in Denmark, whilst the rest of us (well us Rovers lot anyway) had an equally enjoyable time watching the scores come in via text!:D
Well done Doc, funniest thing i've read in ages!!

Btw getting fond of the 5-0 defeats in europe, want to watch that for the future!!;)

Koh

[kdjaC]

Btw getting fond of the 5-0 defeats in europe, want to watch that for the future!!;)

Koh

3 lads in our group have been to see pats in europe twice...... they banned from anymore.


kdjac

[Dodge]

Didn't see or hear the game (and fully expected Pat's to lose) but one can only surmise that Johnny Mac must have got his tactics badly wrong. Teams don't bother scoring more than three in Europe nowadays unless they're enjoying opening their opponents up at will.
Problem was they didn't really open us up. Or at least they didn't have to.

Goals came from
1) Their player handling it and our players stopping, with no whistle coming
2) Corner to near post, free header
3) Corner to near post free header
4) Comical defending
5) Decent finish after two players didn't tackle

They're the best team I've seen Pats play (and I've seen all our game in europe) and man for man they were better than us in every area. Always felt like they could score if they wanted to.

In other news, Odense rocks and every Danish girl is a cracker...

[TonyD]

Btw getting fond of the 5-0 defeats in europe, want to watch that for the future!!;)

Koh


Ahem, 7-0 in Poland.

[DvB]

Ahem, 7-0 in Poland.

eh, that was one game, hardly a pattern emerging now is there, pats on the other hand, have now lost 3, repeat 3!! seperate games 5-0, all in recent memory too, fnar fnar!!!:D

Koh

[Dr.Nightdub]

Look on the bright side, we've halved the aggregate score since Zimbru. If that's not progress I dunno what is.

No prob with fans of other teams slagging us, 5-0 hurts no matter who you're playing, be it League or UEFA and if happened anyone else I'd be slagging them too.

Don't even have a prob with idiot Sligo fans not understanding that we qualified for being Cup runners-up, not cos of our League position. No accounting for stupidity.

Depressing part is that we're one of the best teams in the LoI this year and we're light years behind a team with a decent record in Europe, if you count winning the Intertoto and going out of the UEFA at the group stage as being "decent". In terms of physique, speed and technical ability, Odense are on a different planet, not a single Pats player would make it into their squad.

They have 5000 season ticket holders, we have about 300.
Their ground seats 15,000, ours seats 1800.
They get €5m a year in sponsorship from Carlsberg, we get €300k from Paddy Power.
Thomas Hellweg used to play for AC Milan, Michael Keane used to play for Rotherham.

Like was said, Europe is about getting p1ssed on foreign beer and drooling over foreign birds. Football-wise, it's a holiday from the League and something to aim for in the very long term - five to ten years minimum. Anyone who thinks we or any other team in the League is within an asses roar of bridging the gap before then is welcome to their delusions.

[GavinZac]

Like was said, Europe is about getting p1ssed on foreign beer and drooling over foreign birds. Football-wise, it's a holiday from the League and something to aim for in the very long term - five to ten years minimum. Anyone who thinks we or any other team in the League is within an asses roar of bridging the gap before then is welcome to their delusions.
its not supposed to be. a couple of season ago, both cork and shels were a tie away from the group stages of the UEFA cup, and neither team were embarressed 5-0 or anything near it.

that we've gone backwards does not mean we should not in the immediate term be trying to better that.

[Dodge]

its not supposed to be. a couple of season ago, both cork and shels were a tie away from the group stages of the UEFA cup, and neither team were embarressed 5-0 or anything near it.

Cork were in their collective ********es one tie away from the UEFA cup group stages... By that ****ing logic we were only 2 ties away from it and Shels were one tie away from the CL too but then look what happened them.

A far superior Shels side lost 3-0 in Odense and a Pats side missing a few regulars lost 5-0, its not that big a difference

[GavinZac]

Cork were in their collective ********es one tie away from the UEFA cup group stages... By that ****ing logic we were only 2 ties away from it and Shels were one tie away from the CL too but then look what happened them.
:confused: if we'd beaten SLavia Prague, we'd have been int he UEFA group stages. Wasn't to be, ce sera. Losing 5-0 to anybody? no excuses. The time for that was 20 years ago.

A far superior Shels side lost 3-0 in Odense and a Pats side missing a few regulars lost 5-0, its not that big a difference

Defensive as usual but then that's pretty much St. Pat's thing, isnt it?

Do you think slaphead will go before the end of the season, or will they wait?

[kdjaC]

Do you think slaphead will go before the end of the season, or will they wait?

Next friday if we dont have 6 points from 2 games.


kdjac

[Dodge]

:confused: if we'd beaten SLavia Prague, we'd have been int he UEFA group stages. Wasn't to be, ce sera. Losing 5-0 to anybody? no excuses. The time for that was 20 years ago.


Apologies for the Prague thing. Forgot that. :o

And can't see where any Pats fan made any excuse for the result/score. All we've said is that the better team won and we gifted them goals. I saw the game, you didn't. I can say they definitely weren't 5 goals better. Believe what you wanna believe...