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paul_oshea
31/07/2007, 2:55 PM
go to foxford if you want to learn more!
geysir
31/07/2007, 3:10 PM
i cant find anything about this in google and never heard it before, surely we would have been told that in school and it would be the subject of numerous RTE and TnaG documantaries and visits from hector
You have a lot a faith in the schooling system:)
I remember listening to a radio docu about some of the Irish Argentinian descendants and they were speaking with thick north munster accents, wierd stuff indeed.
Stuttgart88
31/07/2007, 4:08 PM
Don't they speak with Irish accents in parts of Newfoundland?
tetsujin1979
31/07/2007, 4:15 PM
Isn't there parts of Jamaica where all the names are Murphy/O'Brien/McCarthy/etc ?
I remember a friend of mine telling me about it before
beautifulrock
31/07/2007, 5:04 PM
well in Monserrat they celebrate St Patrick day infact it is a public holiday.
bennocelt
31/07/2007, 5:57 PM
i cant find anything about this in google and never heard it before, surely we would have been told that in school and it would be the subject of numerous RTE and TnaG documantaries and visits from hector
dont know about an Irish speaking area, but there is a lot of history between ireland and argentina
many irish emmigreated out there or were left stranded
westmeath has an argentina society to reflect many people from the midlands who ended up there (the lucky ones i guess)
and i could mention Boca juniors and the irish connections but then Dodge would be at me again and i would rather leave it!;)
The Legend
31/07/2007, 10:00 PM
I know a few Argies, they are good craic, we share our distaste for the english! Only problem is they think their rugby team is somehow better or at least on the same level... i guess we'll see...
sniffa
31/07/2007, 10:14 PM
Noel Whelan
lopez
31/07/2007, 11:20 PM
i cant find anything about this in google and never heard it before, surely we would have been told that in school...I doubt the Irish scools history curriculum has emigration as a topic, if my travels supporting Ireland for nearly 26 years is anything to go by. :rolleyes:
Bluebeard
01/08/2007, 9:01 AM
I remember (from school) that the major figure in the foundation of the Argentinian Navy was Irish - I googled it and it's Lt. William Brown. He was the boss man there in their independence fight with Spain.
DeNiro
01/08/2007, 9:44 AM
Don't they speak with Irish accents in parts of Newfoundland?
Yeh with Waterford accents I'm told!
galwayhoop
01/08/2007, 10:50 AM
Isn't there parts of Jamaica where all the names are Murphy/O'Brien/McCarthy/etc ?
I remember a friend of mine telling me about it before
descendants of irish SLAVES!
apparantely:
"Few people today realize that from 1600 to 1699, far more Irish were sold as slaves than Africans."
Read this (http://www.kavanaghfamily.com/articles/2003/20030618jfc.htm) fascinating article which contains the following gem:
"The planters quickly began breeding the comely Irish women, not just because they were attractive, but because it was profitable,,, as well as pleasurable."
paul_oshea
01/08/2007, 11:02 AM
AGAIN, GO TO FOXFORD AND FIND OUT.
bluebeard i am mainly talking to you there....this time.
Its o'higgins in chile. I remember seeing deportivo O'higgins before hehe.
paul_oshea
01/08/2007, 11:06 AM
Isn't there parts of Jamaica where all the names are Murphy/O'Brien/McCarthy/etc ?
I remember a friend of mine telling me about it before
ya they also have the 17th of march as a public holiday. I think its called monserrat ( not montserrat the mountain in spain ). I lived with a girl from st lucia and she used to go on every so often about horny priests planting their seeds, "the horny white monnn cum and plant his seed and then F off", he not know how make luv mon!, quick in and out mon". She was fit enough as well.
Bluebeard
01/08/2007, 1:12 PM
A bit far to travel on a Wednesday afternoon, but I did look it up and this I found this (http://local.mobhaile.ie/Default.aspx?alias=local.mobhaile.ie/admiralbrownp). Quite faciniating really.
ya they also have the 17th of march as a public holiday. I think its called monserrat ( not montserrat the mountain in spain ). I lived with a girl from st lucia and she used to go on every so often about horny priests planting their seeds, "the horny white monnn cum and plant his seed and then F off", he not know how make luv mon!, quick in and out mon". She was fit enough as well.
I hope you did your bit to change her mind about horny white men;)
Bluebeard
01/08/2007, 1:13 PM
theres no irish speaking areas of argentina. maybe a handful of inddividualos who still speak some irish. but no proper irish speaking areas.
It would be the ultimate secondary school Gaeltacht trip if it was though.
Don't they speak with Irish accents in parts of Newfoundland?
its absolutely surreal listening to Newfies speaking. Its like listening to a load of Dubs on stag or something. Hilarious. I was working as field marshall for the Canadian U16 Soccer National Championships and took control of the Newfoundland v Montreal game. It was hilarious listening to the benches. One with thick Irish accents and the other speaking french. They play alot of traditional irish music (fiddles and uileann pipes) in Newfoundland too. Canada is a pretty interesting country.
By the way, i got chatting to the Newfoundland coach after the game and turns out he was from Fairview - about two mins away from where i went to school!
Torn-Ado
01/08/2007, 8:38 PM
Most countries in the civilised world have areas where the people talk with Irish accents.
Some people call them Irish bars ;)
geysir
01/08/2007, 9:01 PM
We could have had Che Guevara.
Torn-Ado
01/08/2007, 9:10 PM
We could have had Che Guevara.
Yeah, On the left wing. And we could have had Martin Sheen too. He has a Galwegian mother. We probably would have played him on the west wing...
:D
Don't bother. I'll get my coat myself. :(
stojkovic
06/08/2007, 4:49 PM
We could have had JFK as a goalkeeper.
Heard he was good between the posts and an excellent shot-stopper.
Junior
12/08/2007, 7:29 PM
Bernardon O'Higgins, Admiral William Brown, Che Guevarra Lynch, Streets & monuments galore after these folk, throughout Chile and Argentina .
RiffRaff
13/08/2007, 9:31 PM
Ryan O'Leary was named in Scotlands under 21 squad today - thats Pierce O'Leary's son (David O'Learys nephew). Having said that he doesnt play for either of the big two in Scotland so he is probably about Eircom League standard.
TheJamaicanP.M.
15/08/2007, 7:03 PM
Isn't there parts of Jamaica where all the names are Murphy/O'Brien/McCarthy/etc ?
I remember a friend of mine telling me about it before
No that's not true Tetsujin. I'm the only Jamaican with Irish connections, apart from Clinton Morrison and Marlon King!
TheJamaicanP.M.
15/08/2007, 7:17 PM
dont know about an Irish speaking area, but there is a lot of history between ireland and argentina
many irish emmigreated out there or were left stranded
westmeath has an argentina society to reflect many people from the midlands who ended up there (the lucky ones i guess)
and i could mention Boca juniors and the irish connections but then Dodge would be at me again and i would rather leave it!;)
The connections between Ireland and Argentina are very interesting. As mentioned already, Jose Luis Brown scored the first goal in the '86 World Cup Final. Also, I think another man by the name of Brown was very influencial in setting up the Argentinian Navy/Army?? He may have been from Galway. President McAlesse was involved in a ceremony to mark his achievements a few years ago. I've read that it is estimated that around 90% of the Irish that went to Argentina came from Westmeath and Longford. Its understood that a large number of emigrants travelled from the area of Ballymore just outside Athlone. Apparently, most Argentinians of Irish descent speak English with an Irish Midlands accent.
I've also noticed that someone mentioned the Irish descendents in Newfoundland. Is there any truth that a large proportion of the emigrants to go there were from Cavan?
Did anyone see the US playing in the recent U-20 World Cup? They had players by the names of Ward, Bradley, McCarthy and Rogers. Surely some of them would qualify for us.
Billsthoughts
16/08/2007, 7:50 AM
Did anyone see the US playing in the recent U-20 World Cup? They had players by the names of Ward, Bradley, McCarthy and Rogers. Surely some of them would qualify for us.
interesting post. however see Joe Lapira thread for reasons why these players wouldnt choose to play for Ireland!:D
The Swordsman
20/08/2007, 1:50 PM
How about Deco.
Apparently, his ma and da were from Coolock :D
greendeiseboy
20/08/2007, 3:08 PM
just seen a thread on a brazilain forum asking a similar question
"how many plastic brazilians from gort have we (brazil) nearly had"
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