Paul McGee a disgrace

[PinBallWizard]

Show me one club that allows its manager operate without a contract? Show me one club that will be prepared to allow same uncontracted manager to apply for another job with a rival club?

Paul McGee is a disgrace. His antics in getting sent off (and the club fined again) on successive weeks is quite simply unvbelieveable. His behaviour mirrors that of a 12 year old spoilt brat. Why didn't he have the good grace to go and watch the rest of the match with the press boys instead of simply leaping the wall, and trying to be the 'big man' in front of the fans?

Maybe I'm the only one but I think this whole managerial situation has been handled very badly by the club. Nothing for nothing, and I was never his biggest fan, but I'll lay money with anyone that Robbie Kelleher wouldn't be as unfit as he is, nor Tommy Barrett be playing while clearly unfit if the butcher was in charge. O'Connor was a knob of a man manager, but you never saw him disgrace himself in public like this guy McGee.

The club should show some loyalty and respect to its fans and either get this guy on a contract and teach him some etiquette or show him the door. The squad there is whats getting the results...not him!

As for an attendance of 541 the other night...541 my @rse. Around 350-400 max I'd say, with about 200 payers. Slippery slopes ahead.

[the dazzler]

to be honest theres a lot of negative talk around town about him think the club should act on it we are doin well but cant have him giving us a bad name which he is doin as for applying for another job we should have ****ed him off there and then

[sligoman]

Show me one club that allows its manager operate without a contract?Sligo Rovers (http://ontheditch.net/news.php?item.665.5).

[micls]

Show me one club that allows its manager operate without a contract? .

City..

[4tothefloor]

Show me one club that allows its manager operate without a contract? Show me one club that will be prepared to allow same uncontracted manager to apply for another job with a rival club?

Paul McGee is a disgrace. His antics in getting sent off (and the club fined again) on successive weeks is quite simply unvbelieveable. His behaviour mirrors that of a 12 year old spoilt brat. Why didn't he have the good grace to go and watch the rest of the match with the press boys instead of simply leaping the wall, and trying to be the 'big man' in front of the fans?

Maybe I'm the only one but I think this whole managerial situation has been handled very badly by the club. Nothing for nothing, and I was never his biggest fan, but I'll lay money with anyone that Robbie Kelleher wouldn't be as unfit as he is, nor Tommy Barrett be playing while clearly unfit if the butcher was in charge. O'Connor was a knob of a man manager, but you never saw him disgrace himself in public like this guy McGee.

The club should show some loyalty and respect to its fans and either get this guy on a contract and teach him some etiquette or show him the door. The squad there is whats getting the results...not him!

I presume the reason he wasn't given a contract to start with was because he is essentially a rookie manager. He has no managerial track record of note, save for underage. So not giving him a contract and making him prove himself makes perfect sense to me.

I presume the reason he still doesn't have a contract is because the board aren't exactly convinced by him either. They'd see McGee up close a lot more than we do, so maybe they've been aware for some time regarding his oddities and we're only beginning to see his behaviour now....

You have to ask the question, would McGee be applying for other jobs if he had a contract with us? Is he applying for these jobs to put pressure on L37 to tie him down? My own personal opinion is that he'll be let go at the end of the season- he'd be signed up by now if we intended to keep him. I don't think he has done himself any favours recently either. That said, I do not agree that he should be sacked mid season - we've had enough of that crap in previous years and it would be very bad for the image of the club. He is, after all, perfectly entitled to apply for other jobs as he is not under contract to us. But as I said, he hasn't done himself any favours.....

[sligoman]

What job did he apply for?:confused:

[Lim till i die]

What job did he apply for?:confused:

Athlone Town :eek: :o

[Lim till i die]

Not being smart but if Limerick got their house in order to would be far bigger than Athlone.

Spot On.


Is the club in a mess ?

No to be honest

It smacks of McGee being smalltime IMO

[L37Ultra]

Show me one club that allows its manager operate without a contract? Show me one club that will be prepared to allow same uncontracted manager to apply for another job with a rival club?

Paul McGee is a disgrace. His antics in getting sent off (and the club fined again) on successive weeks is quite simply unvbelieveable. His behaviour mirrors that of a 12 year old spoilt brat. Why didn't he have the good grace to go and watch the rest of the match with the press boys instead of simply leaping the wall, and trying to be the 'big man' in front of the fans?

Maybe I'm the only one but I think this whole managerial situation has been handled very badly by the club. Nothing for nothing, and I was never his biggest fan, but I'll lay money with anyone that Robbie Kelleher wouldn't be as unfit as he is, nor Tommy Barrett be playing while clearly unfit if the butcher was in charge. O'Connor was a knob of a man manager, but you never saw him disgrace himself in public like this guy McGee.

The club should show some loyalty and respect to its fans and either get this guy on a contract and teach him some etiquette or show him the door. The squad there is whats getting the results...not him!

As for an attendance of 541 the other night...541 my @rse. Around 350-400 max I'd say, with about 200 payers. Slippery slopes ahead.


This kind of negative crap is why previous clubs have been messed up. Look and the job Mcgee has done so far this season. How the hell are the players going to get fit without playing matches. They made a huge difference the other night so thats a stupid commnet. Do you have proof that Ski applied for the Athlone job, no you dont. And so what if he did, all that travelling up and down must be getting to him. He is human after all!! and on the attendence i myself can promise you, as I was there when they count the tickets, it was exactly 541!! Thats okay considering it is in the middle of the holiday season. Ski got sent off because he is passionate and shouted at the ref for a poor decision. Its okay when the fans reacted to that decision but when McGee does he is a disgrace, get a grip!! This club has been making huge progress and after a 4-1 win how some people still have something to complain about is sad. its easy to sit on your @rse behind the computer and criticise the manager and the club but then people do nothing to get involved and help the club....

[gael353]

I think the issue of the attendance is nul and void as there was in fact 538 tickets sold, in fact i would think as there was no underage game on at half time, freebies and freebie parents that the takings the other night would have been slightly better then previous weeks. I wont comment on Ski and his contract untill i know for sure but i have been told by text just now that he does have one.

[PinBallWizard]

This kind of negative crap is why previous clubs have been messed up. .... It's not negative 'crap'. It's an opinion, and as a fan, and a paying one at that, one which I'm just as entitled to as you are.


Look and the job Mcgee has done so far this season. How the hell are the players going to get fit without playing matches. They made a huge difference the other night so thats a stupid commnet. em...proper diets, training regimes and better off the field behaviour goes a long way towards fitness. Ski isn't suitably qualified, and doesn't seem to mind that a few of his squad are glorified p1ssheads.Just visit Flannerys, Nancys or Smyths any weekend night.


Do you have proof that Ski applied for the Athlone job, no you dont. And so what if he did, all that travelling up and down must be getting to him. He is human after all!! Don't need any proof. I was told this by a high ranking FAI man that I know who has close ties to Athlone. I defy anybody at the club to publicly deny it.


and on the attendence i myself can promise you, as I was there when they count the tickets, it was exactly 541!!

I think the issue of the attendance is nul and void as there was in fact 538 tickets sold,:confused::confused: Contradiction..small maybe, but contradiction. Either way, I don't care what you say on this either because I know how to approximately head count and there was nowhere near 540 people there.


Ski got sent off because he is passionate and shouted at the ref for a poor decision. Its okay when the fans reacted to that decision but when McGee does he is a disgrace, get a grip!!Ski's well paid to behave professionally. He's is a disgrace, and don't mistake passion for ignorance. Because what I heard coming out of his mouth in Cobh and again on Friday night is just that...ignorance! Passion my @rse.


This club has been making huge progress and after a 4-1 win how some people still have something to complain about is sad. its easy to sit on your @rse behind the computer and criticise the manager and the club but then people do nothing to get involved and help the club.... I am involved...I pay my admission fee every home game, and some 21's ganmes, buy programmes, snacks and merchandise also. I have been doing this at League of Ireland games for over 25 years so don't tell me to get involved!! And as for criticising the manager, I will do so as I please if I feel he merits it. And in my books, the guy is a bluffer, a spoofer and an egomaniac.

[L37Ultra]

It's not negative 'crap'. It's an opinion, and as a fan, and a paying one at that, one which I'm just as entitled to as you are.

em...proper diets, training regimes and better off the field behaviour goes a long way towards fitness. Ski isn't suitably qualified, and doesn't seem to mind that a few of his squad are glorified p1ssheads.Just visit Flannerys, Nancys or Smyths any weekend night.

Don't need any proof. I was told this by a high ranking FAI man that I know who has close ties to Athlone. I defy anybody at the club to publicly deny it.


:confused::confused: Contradiction..small maybe, but contradiction. Either way, I don't care what you say on this either because I know how to approximately head count and there was nowhere near 540 people there.

Ski's well paid to behave professionally. He's is a disgrace, and don't mistake passion for ignorance. Because what I heard coming out of his mouth in Cobh and again on Friday night is just that...ignorance! Passion my @rse.

I am involved...I pay my admission fee every home game, and some 21's ganmes, buy programmes, snacks and merchandise also. I have been doing this at League of Ireland games for over 25 years so don't tell me to get involved!! And as for criticising the manager, I will do so as I please if I feel he merits it. And in my books, the guy is a bluffer, a spoofer and an egomaniac.


Well i agree with you on the part of the players being out every weekend. I personally met 3 Limerick players out in town drinking last night and thats partially down to the manager but they are semi-pros and you cannot expect them to give up their social lives!! As for the Contradiction, it was three in the diifference in all fairness and of course you are entitiled to your opinion and so am I and I think Paul Mcgee is doing a great job. ANd go down to summervilles pitch most week days and you will see Colbert and Kelleher training and running trying to get fit, by themselves!!

[atfconline]

Ski getting his marching orders...... (http://www.since1887.net/pics/ski.jpg)

[Risteard]

What happened?

[KevB76]

I am involved...I pay my admission fee every home game, and some 21's ganmes ......... in my books, the guy is a bluffer, a spoofer and an egomaniac.

So you pay into 21's games ? Now that is commendable !
Whats that about bluffers and spoofers :D

[KevB76]

no offence but ye seem to always be moanin about something lads


Too true. Theres always been an element in this town who cant wait to see a good thing tainted - they've been waiting for an opporunity and now they've picked up on this "Ski is an embarrassment" thing and and are making the most of it. And for what? So they can look like they know a thing or two "I knew it / told you so / I saw it coming first ". Its such an easy position to take becase they will always be right in the end, all good things come to an end its just a matter of time. I just wish the self serving merchants of doom would have the decency to let the rest of us enjoy the good times while we have them.

[clownboy]

[QUOTE=L37Ultra;730405]Well i agree with you on the part of the players being out every weekend. I personally met 3 Limerick players out in town drinking last night and thats partially down to the manager but they are semi-pros and you cannot expect them to give up their social lives!! QUOTE]


I think most players in any league in England and Ireland be it full time or Part will go out one night a week and in many cases are even encouraged to do so.I remember when Cork won the league 2 seasons ago a City fan told me that they were all encouraged to socialise after a game with each other and go for a few drinks.I dont think that going out is a big deal in itself as long as the players are responsible and dont do the dog on it which i presume most don't do

[PinBallWizard]

Too true. Theres always been an element in this town who cant wait to see a good thing tainted - they've been waiting for an opporunity and now they've picked up on this "Ski is an embarrassment" thing and and are making the most of it. And for what? So they can look like they know a thing or two "I knew it / told you so / I saw it coming first ". Its such an easy position to take becase they will always be right in the end, all good things come to an end its just a matter of time. I just wish the self serving merchants of doom would have the decency to let the rest of us enjoy the good times while we have them. We'll see if you're calling them good times at the end of the season, when it counts. And please don't give me any of this "Oh its all better than last year when we had nothing" crap. Lat year the club was run and owned by a retard. This year, there's a great squad, prpoer structure and seemingly good people running the show. There's no excuses for McGees behaviour full stop. He should be more professional. And why are you writing off the 'good times'...If they're that good then why is McGoo looking for a job elsewhere. Don't give me all the travelling crap either...It's hardly a million miles away.


I think most players in any league in England and Ireland be it full time or Part will go out one night a week and in many cases are even encouraged to do so.I remember when Cork won the league 2 seasons ago a City fan told me that they were all encouraged to socialise after a game with each other and go for a few drinks.I dont think that going out is a big deal in itself as long as the players are responsible and dont do the dog on it which i presume most don't do[/ . :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Robbie Kelleher clearly isn't fit. A lot of that isn't the lads fault. Its his metabolism. He wasn't the size he is now when plwying under O'Connor or Scully. Why? Because they are prepared and qualified in proper training, diet and exercise. Running around the Summerville pitch and drinking like a horse at weekends isn't going to get him fit. Ski should address this, get him off the gargle, seek advice on a diet and proper exercise programme for the lad and help him.


So you pay into 21's games ? Now that is commendable !
Whats that about bluffers and spoofers . I have two season tickets, which when I bought them said covered my admission into all league and Under 21's games. I also have shares bought in the club. Commendable enough for you?.....:rolleyes:

[joeSoap]

If this thread is kept objective and doesn't descend into the farcical slagging match it usually does, it could actually be good!! Keep it that way lads, please.

I personally think that the man has a lot to answer for, but so too do the club for standing by and letting him behave like an ass. He is getting well paid, getting very high media profile on a national scale (which is just what he wants it seems) and the least he can do is respect the position he's in. It's pretty obvious to me anyway that he plays to the crowd.

One thing I didn't agree with the other night was the way he needlessly made Joey Maloney travel the whole way from Castlebar to Limerick and back, knowing damn well that he wasn't going to even get a jersey in the match 16. Not a nice thing to do.

[Ash]

Dunno if its 100% as below but (its what I was told on the night at the game)
back in April, our previous gaffer rang an U21 player to tell him he was in the
squad for Mons away. He travelled up to Monaghan from Templemore (he's a
trainee Gardai) only to be told when he arrived at the front gate that there
was a change in plan and he wans't needed!

Harsh!

[shelbourne1904]

One thing I didn't agree with the other night was the way he needlessly made Joey Maloney travel the whole way from Castlebar to Limerick and back, knowing damn well that he wasn't going to even get a jersey in the match 16. Not a nice thing to do.

You think this is the only instance of this and not just to this player?You are not watching the statistics.But that is the managers right if he cant make his mind up till the last minute or just overlooks what effect what he does has on the players and couldnt care less.

I have to say that showboating ,when he jumped the wall after being sent off ,gives serious insight of what goes on in his head....if anything.Whatever he said made the 4th official go out of his way to call the linesman to call the ref and there was no way back.It must have been realy serious.

[LFC in Exile]

Here we go again.

We beat Athlone 4-1 (after a heart breaking defeat the previous week) and close the gap on teh top and the focus is on the negative.

Ski can be the biggest b@llocks in Ireland for all I care - as a fan I don't have to like him - he just has to get it done on the pitch. And he does. We have lost 3 games in 20. We are in a platy off spot. I am not comparing anything to last season - I am talking about this season and this season is going well.

I don't understand the Wizard's argument that he should be given a contract or shown the dorr and that he is a disgrace. If you think he's a disgrace why give him a contract? That costs more if the club ever did want to get rid of him. Though I saw keep him - his is doing very well against the only criteria that matters for a manager - results.

[LFC in Exile]

O'Connor was a knob of a man manager, but you never saw him disgrace himself in public like this guy McGee.

Yeah, we'd much rather have a zombie in a trench coat on the line. :rolleyes:

[PinBallWizard]

I don't understand the Wizard's argument that he should be given a contract or shown the dorr and that he is a disgrace. If you think he's a disgrace why give him a contract? That costs more if the club ever did want to get rid of him. Though I saw keep him - his is doing very well against the only criteria that matters for a manager - results.My argument is based on the image that he gives off. It is bad, pure and simple. The fact that he has no contract shows that either he has no faith in the club, or the club has no faith in him. Either way, both are wrong. I personally think his behaviour is disgraceful and not befitting an EL manager. I don't see how you can condone his behaviour, particularly in Cobh, just because results are good. If I remember not too long ago at all when we were on a long unbeaten run people here were all calling for O'Connors head, so where does your criteria for 'results only counting' fit in there? Theres a long way to go in this season yet. I'll credit him to date with the results. Fair play. I won't credit him, or ignore the fact that he's a jackass and an idiot.

[PinBallWizard]

Yeah, we'd much rather have a zombie in a trench coat on the line. :rolleyes:Weak effort. You know what I am talking about-the needless ranting, raving and playing to the crowd sh1te....it's wrong.

[bellavistaman]

Is it fair to say hes "skiing on a downhill slope". Thank you!

[joeSoap]

Go away.......forever........;)

[jebus]

Is it fair to say hes "skiing on a downhill slope". Thank you!

That taxi better be called bellavista :p

[bellavistaman]

That taxi better be called bellavista :p

:D:D, love the **** ones as much as the good ones.

[LFC in Exile]

My argument is based on the image that he gives off. It is bad, pure and simple. The fact that he has no contract shows that either he has no faith in the club, or the club has no faith in him. Either way, both are wrong. I personally think his behaviour is disgraceful and not befitting an EL manager. I don't see how you can condone his behaviour, particularly in Cobh, just because results are good. If I remember not too long ago at all when we were on a long unbeaten run people here were all calling for O'Connors head, so where does your criteria for 'results only counting' fit in there? Theres a long way to go in this season yet. I'll credit him to date with the results. Fair play. I won't credit him, or ignore the fact that he's a jackass and an idiot.

I judged NOC on results also - which got me a lot of stick at the time too.

What I meant was why would you want the club to give him a contract if you think he is a disgrace.:confused:

[GavinZac]

Is it fair to say hes "skiing on a downhill slope". Thank you!

water terrible pun!

[bellavistaman]

water terrible pun!

Cork lads definitly on top today. :D:D

[L37Ultra]

One thing I didn't agree with the other night was the way he needlessly made Joey Maloney travel the whole way from Castlebar to Limerick and back, knowing damn well that he wasn't going to even get a jersey in the match 16. Not a nice thing to do.


Joey Maloney was injured. I was at the match early and he was having a fitness test. :ball:

[L37Ultra]

Here we go again.

We beat Athlone 4-1 (after a heart breaking defeat the previous week) and close the gap on teh top and the focus is on the negative.

Ski can be the biggest b@llocks in Ireland for all I care - as a fan I don't have to like him - he just has to get it done on the pitch. And he does. We have lost 3 games in 20. We are in a platy off spot. I am not comparing anything to last season - I am talking about this season and this season is going well.

I don't understand the Wizard's argument that he should be given a contract or shown the dorr and that he is a disgrace. If you think he's a disgrace why give him a contract? That costs more if the club ever did want to get rid of him. Though I saw keep him - his is doing very well against the only criteria that matters for a manager - results.

Well said. I really dont know where all this negativity towards Paul McGee is coming from. I mean we are doing very well this season and just won 4-1 and you come on and complain about him getting sent off and you have no proof that he went for the Athlone job!! Just lets get behind the man and what has his personality got to do with anything if we are doing well on the pitch!! He got sent off in Cobh for shouting at the ref and Cossgrave (which many Limerick fans have been doing all season) and he got sent off against Athlone because he was giving out about the refs decision( which many Limerick fans did last friday). So its okay for the fans to do it but when the manager does it lets start a thread and abusive the man. I thought this season would be different and Limerick fans would stick together and not moan and complain about the stupidest things!! Its been a great season so why can we not concerntrate on the positives!! :ball:

[joeSoap]

Just because there are positives, that doesn’t mean that people, especially season ticket holders and shareholders, should ignore the negatives, of which there are some also.

Positives:

• A place to call home without haggling and worrying about the priest.
• Big, healthy squad.
• Good 21’s set up.
• Live 95 Sponsorship deal.
• Committed and progressive supporters club.
• Results going well on the pitch.

Negatives:

• Not knowing where we stand with the manager from a contract point of view.
• Ever expanding wage bill
• Dwindling gates.
• Distinct lack of information on progress (or lack of it) in Jackman Park Development.

By and large, all is rosy in the garden…at the moment. Promotion this season is imperative I believe to maintain momentum and support. If it is not achieved then the support, that is dwindling, like it or not, will plummet. Rugby is back in September, and the fickle fan doesn’t need much of an excuse to jump ship.

I believe McGee should be tied to a contract or released. The club gave him his break, made his name for him as a Senior EL Manager and I don’t see why he should be allowed to walk from that if he wants to go to what he might consider a bigger job without the club being compensated.

[jebus]

So its okay for the fans to do it but when the manager does it lets start a thread and abusive the man.

Genuinely it's not okay. If I were getting paid by the club, then I wouldn't be roaring every little thing at the referee and getting myself sent off. As fans we should be the ones giving the ref abuse for wrong decisions, not Skee, and especially not when Athlone have just pulled a goal back and we need him in the dugout, and even more so when he's idiocy has cost us a point in Cobh the week before hand

[sadloserkid]

Aybody who thinks that a manager doesn't deserve some criticism for getting sent off in consecutive games is a clown.

McGee's problem is that he fancies himself as an expert on fan psychology (much like Danny Drew) and spends too much time currying favour when his sole focus should be what happens on the pitch. His bravado probably does fool a lot of people but there's no need for the antics (pulling faces at 4th officials and what have you).

Aside from that his personal abuse of players on the field is completely and utterly needless. That's what the dressing room is for.

I will also hold it against him that I have now agreed with Stephen Henderson that there is no place in football for managers who vocally encourage their players to 'break his legs'.

It's stretching things a little to call him a disgrace but as things stand I wouldn't be in any huge rush to tie him down just yet either. Results (if not always performnces) have mostly been good. Whatever else can be said about him McGee has been lucky and I'd give him to the end of the season to see how far that can take him and if he can learn some vestige of professionalism in his match day conduct.

[gael353]

Aybody who thinks that a manager doesn't deserve some criticism for getting sent off in consecutive games is a clown.

McGee's problem is that he fancies himself as an expert on fan psychology (much like Danny Drew) and spends too much time currying favour when his sole focus should be what happens on the pitch. His bravado probably does fool a lot of people but there's no need for the antics (pulling faces at 4th officials and what have you).

Aside from that his personal abuse of players on the field is completely and utterly needless. That's what the dressing room is for.

I will also hold it against him that I have now agreed with Stephen Henderson that there is no place in football for managers who vocally encourage their players to 'break his legs'.

It's stretching things a little to call him a disgrace but as things stand I wouldn't be in any huge rush to tie him down just yet either. Results (if not always performnces) have mostly been good. Whatever else can be said about him McGee has been lucky and I'd give him to the end of the season to see how far that can take him and if he can learn some vestige of professionalism in his match day conduct.


God im glad your back ;)

[declan hide]

[QUOTE=sadloserkid;730913]

I will also hold it against him that I have now agreed with Stephen Henderson that there is no place in football for managers who vocally encourage their players to 'break his legs'.

QUOTE]

can you elaborate here?

[declan hide]

oh by the way i see alot of talk about ski jumping the wall and staying next to the supporters and not going to the press box etc etc

just to let ye know that ski still managed to get some points across to the players from the position he took. and also to barry ryan.

when limerick played in the pike and under the drew regime there was a few righteous souls on here who thought they had all the answers...and they still are here by the looks of it.

[joeSoap]

just to let ye know that ski still managed to get some points across to the players from the position he took. and also to barry ryan.
.Which didn't go unnoticed by the officials who will probably put it in their report, thus increasing any fine and ban the buffoon was going to get anyway.

[declan hide]

does he not have to leave the playing/technical area? isnt this what he did?

would surprise me if the ref/whoever will mention this in the report.

[declan hide]

Which didn't go unnoticed by the officials who will probably put it in their report, thus increasing any fine and ban the buffoon was going to get anyway.

are you gonna start a bring back NOC campaign joe? :rolleyes:

remember you defending him to the hilt.

[4tothefloor]

Lat year the club was run and owned by a retard.
I hope for your sake 'willie john' doesn't see that :D


Aybody who thinks that a manager doesn't deserve some criticism for getting sent off in consecutive games is a clown.

McGee's problem is that he fancies himself as an expert on fan psychology (much like Danny Drew) and spends too much time currying favour when his sole focus should be what happens on the pitch. His bravado probably does fool a lot of people but there's no need for the antics (pulling faces at 4th officials and what have you).

Aside from that his personal abuse of players on the field is completely and utterly needless. That's what the dressing room is for.

I will also hold it against him that I have now agreed with Stephen Henderson that there is no place in football for managers who vocally encourage their players to 'break his legs'.

It's stretching things a little to call him a disgrace but as things stand I wouldn't be in any huge rush to tie him down just yet either. Results (if not always performnces) have mostly been good. Whatever else can be said about him McGee has been lucky and I'd give him to the end of the season to see how far that can take him and if he can learn some vestige of professionalism in his match day conduct.
About right. A lot of people on here are calling McGee a clown and a looney. That he may be, but anyone who thinks we should sack McGee now? Pot calling kettle black :rolleyes:

[fc hammer]

the only clowns around here are you lot bitching and moaning,i'd take 3rd bottom six months ago when there was going to be no el football in limerick.ffs grow up the lot of ye,or maybe go follow longford town then you would have something to bitch about!!! muppets the lot of you..

[joeSoap]

are you gonna start a bring back NOC campaign joe? :rolleyes:

remember you defending him to the hilt. The past is the past and I think everybody has moved on since then. There seems to be a perverse infatuation on this board with Noel O'Connor, with a certain few unable to stop whining about him constantly, and referring to him every time a thread about a manager comes up.

This thread isn't about Noel O'Connor. Or any other manager. It's about Paul McGee. But seeing as you brought up his name, I'd lay odds with you that you'd never see him, or any other EL manager with the possible exception of Roddy Collins behaving like a mutt like McGee has done in the past fortnight. No other club would be comfortable with their manager making faces at officials and gesturing to the crowd for support for doing so. No other club would be comfortable with their manager being sent off in successive weeks for behaving like a three year old girl. No other club would like to hear the bile that came out of his mouth in Cobh, particularly at his own players, in front of everyone. All EL clubs have standards. Why should we be any different. All other clubs would reprimand their manager for behaving in this manner. I hope we're no different, but I'm not holding my breath.

[joeSoap]

the only clowns around here are you lot bitching and moaning,i'd take 3rd bottom six months ago when there was going to be no el football in limerick.ffs grow up the lot of ye,or maybe go follow longford town then you would have something to bitch about!!! muppets the lot of you.. Great attitude. Nice to see that you're happy to blow a stack of money to finish third bottom. If the club wanted to finish in that position then they would have signed the players to do it, instead of the crack squad that's there now. Before you call people muppets might I suggest a look in the nearest mirror. :rolleyes:

[LFC in Exile]

Just because there are positives, that doesn’t mean that people, especially season ticket holders and shareholders, should ignore the negatives, of which there are some also.

I don't think anyone said that they should. But there's a difference in almost trying to find negatives. Some balance has to be brought to it - and in your list of positives and negatives (even if all are accepted) the positives far outweigh the negatives. In fact the negatives seem to be worries rather than negatives. I know, its hard to ever feel really confident with Limerick senior football.


Aybody who thinks that a manager doesn't deserve some criticism for getting sent off in consecutive games is a clown.

Jaysus slk, that's right - start a post with a straw man argument. Again nobody said he shouldn't be criticised. But, as you seem to accept later on, the criticism was over the top (i.e. calling him a disgrace) and didn't give credit for our current league position. What is forgotten it seems as well is that the current squad is not the squad we started with. He built a team in a couple of weeks at the start of the season and we have been at or near the top all season.

I think he is a good manager. If you watch the highlights of the Athlone game on youtube you can see he is almost kicking every ball and celebrates goals like a fan. He cares. I imagine players see that too. Maybe he goes too far sometimes.

As for Jebus' view that he cost us a point in Cobh - I think the players shoudl look at themselves on that one.

[LFC in Exile]

Which didn't go unnoticed by the officials who will probably put it in their report, thus increasing any fine and ban the buffoon was going to get anyway.

Officials that are sent off must leave the "vicinity of the field of play and the technical area". So whether you consider over the wall to be in the vicinity is a judgement call. A lot of times managers that have been sent off just step back from the dug-out into the crowd and continue to communicate with the dug-out.

[bellavistaman]

As for Jebus' view that he cost us a point in Cobh - I think the players shoudl look at themselves on that one.

from a cobh fans point of view nothing bout results but he really left yere club down that day everybody was talking bout your good support bringing a mascot and all, class flags, noisy, great numbers in the bar, and then the manager tells players to break legs, hard man, then makes faces behind 4th officials back. What a ******** of a man.