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Aaron
18/07/2007, 10:38 PM
Sad.
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Indeed:rolleyes:
Derry were far from awful tonight. Do you really expect plenty of goals against a dirty team who sat and defended for the whole 90 minutes. Paddy was excellent,Oman was brilliant, our only problem was they were resolute and hard to break down.
kdjaC
18/07/2007, 10:41 PM
Indeed:rolleyes:
Derry were far from awful tonight. Do you really expect plenty of goals against a dirty team who sat and defended for the whole 90 minutes. Paddy was excellent,Oman was brilliant, our only problem was they were resolute and hard to break down.
12 or so corners and all of them terrible, amazed that tactic has won you cups :(
kdjac
DmanDmythDledge
18/07/2007, 10:48 PM
Derry were far from awful tonight. Do you really expect plenty of goals against a dirty team who sat and defended for the whole 90 minutes. Paddy was excellent,Oman was brilliant, our only problem was they were resolute and hard to break down.
McCourt went on a few good runs but had very little end product. At one stage he was in acres of space with plenty of time to cross but he decides to run straight towards the defender. He can't have possession of the ball without attempting to beat a defender.
They weren't hard to break down, Derry were just awful in the final third. Deery and McCallion wasted loads of good crossing opportunities. 12 corners as well and not even a shot on target from them. Morrow looks like a decent player but had to come too far deep to get the ball.
Dodge
18/07/2007, 11:17 PM
Derry were far from awful tonight
I disagree. You were up against an awful team and created very little., Shockingly poor game
Risteard
19/07/2007, 12:47 AM
Exactly.
0-0 at home against a team from Armenia?
I think I'm going to pyunik!
OneRedArmy
19/07/2007, 1:04 AM
Knocked it round reasonably well but lacked a cutting edge up front.
McCourt's first game back and he was a passenger after 60mins having burst himself up until then.
Molloy and Oman were immense.
Martyn and Morrow looked like they haven't played much football recently and were anonymous for long periods.
Referee was a clown who seemed to view football as a non-contact sport. Also had problems with the rule that corners go to the opposing team to whoever touched the ball last.
I'm also amazed at many of the comments on here. Have any of you seen Derry play this season? There's a reason we are in the bottom half of the League.
Its only Robertson's second game and his trying hard to undo the tactical ineptitude, lack of fitness and selection and hiring muppetry that went before him.
One things for sure, it would've been a hell of a lot worse under Fenlon.
So all considered, I'm not going to lose too much sleep tonight.
mypost
19/07/2007, 6:10 AM
I disagree. You were up against an awful team and created very little., Shockingly poor game
It's the 1st Round qualifiers, it's bound to be poor.
Derry looked a side who are 7th in the league. Passing astray, chances few, and you wouldn't give them any chance of getting the result they need out there, on the back of a 0-0 here.
paudie
19/07/2007, 8:15 AM
Poor enough game.
Hard to know whether Pyunik were being very cagey or just aren't much good. Derry created very few decent chances and are obviouly lacking confidence with their poor season so far.
Pitch was very bumpy as well, which didn't help Derry.
Pyunik would be favourites but only just. What are temperatures likely to be next week?
Steve Bruce
19/07/2007, 8:45 AM
Poor enough game.
Hard to know whether Pyunik were being very cagey or just aren't much good. Derry created very few decent chances and are obviouly lacking confidence with their poor season so far.
Pitch was very bumpy as well, which didn't help Derry.
Pyunik would be favourites but only just. What are temperatures likely to be next week?
High 80s
OneRedArmy
19/07/2007, 8:49 AM
High 80s
Bit lower at 8pm but still warm.
Pyunik would be favourites but only just. What are temperatures likely to be next week?
Not really. I'd expect them to win by 2 goals. Its in Armenia ffs
OneRedArmy
19/07/2007, 9:00 AM
Not really. I'd expect them to win by 2 goals. Its in Armenia ffsInteresting logic.
Is it akin to Superman not being able to be close to kyrptonite?:confused:
Larry 'da' Wyse
19/07/2007, 9:01 AM
Looked pretty dire oke but Derry shouldn't fear a team that can't even take a throw.
Also must say Pat Morley's habit of following the word 'very' with 'very' every time has bugged me for ages.
e.g. The goalie did very very well. Same with 'really really'.
Listen out of it next time he is on the box - aaarrgghhhh!
Woeful game, perhaps Pyunik will be a lot more up for it in Armenia and it might be a different story. I can see Derry getting through with a score draw, but they must be kicking themselves that they were so flat last night.
paul_oshea
19/07/2007, 9:17 AM
Paul O'Shea - where'd you watch the game tonight ?
We were all up in the Quays on Holloway Rd. The boys will be back up there again next Weds if you fancy joining them (except those of us who are off to Yerevan.... )
I watched it on the computer!!!Whats the point in inviting me somewhere after the event has occured :p ooh i just saw next week!! whoops
Anyhow I am barred from the quays so I couldnt have gone!!!! Is fidelma and Noel still there? Noel is a donegal lad, big celtic supporter prolly watched the match last night id say.
The match is on at 4 next week so hopefully ill be able get it at work!
None of the brats on here that i "helped" even thanked me for telling them how to get to watch the match :( ungrateful Bastids :D
Peadar
19/07/2007, 9:33 AM
Classic George Hamilton, claiming that Derry were beaten by PSG, in the third qualifying round of the Champions League, last season. :rolleyes:
George must think that the eL runners-up get to play in the CL every season.
On a side note, would Shelbourne have faired much worse against Pyunik!?
Yes, Shels would've been destroyed. If Monaghan can stick four past them...
Peadar
19/07/2007, 9:44 AM
Yes, Shels would've been destroyed. If Monaghan can stick four past them...
I don't think they would have been.
Derry were under no pressure at the back last night.
That certainly wasn't down to any significant quality in their midfield.
A lot of Derry fans would want to wake up to the limitations of McCourt. He's one of the least productive midfield players in the league, despite his high profile.
sfc red
19/07/2007, 10:20 AM
Yes, Shels would've been destroyed. If Monaghan can stick four past them...
Ah but that was the old Shels team :D Chambers would have destroed Pyunik!!
finnpark
19/07/2007, 10:49 AM
Im not sure what game most of you were watching but Pyunik were the better side last night. Looked far the more dangerous. Derry looked unfit and unorganised. Midfield was quite good for derry but did any Derry striker get a shot on target.
Cannot beleive McHugh didn't start ahead of Morrow. Was Morrow in the box at all last night? Maybe just when he got home to the wife - thats the only time he got in the box.
Armenia's keeper would seem like a good buy for an ei side as would their right back. Apart from that they are also poor but slightly better than Derry
Dodge
19/07/2007, 10:52 AM
Im not sure what game most of you were watching but Pyunik were the better side last night. Looked far the more dangerous. :rolleyes: You've just taken crazy bias to a new level
Cannot beleive McHugh didn't start ahead of Morrow. Was Morrow in the box at all last night?
Morrow's a midfielder and McHugh's a striker. or did I get that wrong?
OneRedArmy
19/07/2007, 11:03 AM
Im not sure what game most of you were watching but Pyunik were the better side last night. Looked far the more dangerous. Derry looked unfit and unorganised. Midfield was quite good for derry but did any Derry striker get a shot on target.
Cannot beleive McHugh didn't start ahead of Morrow. Was Morrow in the box at all last night? Maybe just when he got home to the wife - thats the only time he got in the box.
Armenia's keeper would seem like a good buy for an ei side as would their right back. Apart from that they are also poor but slightly better than DerryHave you considered other ways to spend your free time rather than watching football, as you clearly aren't very good at it.
Suduko maybe?
Peadar
19/07/2007, 11:03 AM
As bad as Derry were, they certainly were not worse than the other lot. Patrick Jennings was never troubled.
Derry's inability to hold the ball up in the centre of the park, prevents them from applying pressure for any significant period.
lofty9
19/07/2007, 11:18 AM
Derry's inability to hold the ball up in the centre of the park, prevents them from applying pressure for any significant period.
At the game, Derry dominated. I'm sure you can relate to teams coming to the Cross and putting 11 men behind the ball. They tried to frustrate all night and succeeded. Looking at it first hand, Derry looked hungrier and have nothing to fear in the second leg. There will be more space for Martyn, who has an inability to hold up any play anyhow, but Molloy was absolutely outstanding in the game.
Peadar
19/07/2007, 11:42 AM
Infrequent shots on target & too many wasted corners, meant that Derry's dominance, didn't equate to any significant pressure.
lofty9
19/07/2007, 11:57 AM
Infrequent shots on target & too many wasted corners, meant that Derry's dominance, didn't equate to any significant pressure.
Not excusing our absolute ****eness last night in taking set pieces but Brennan, Higgins and Deery have taken all our set pieces over the past year or so. None of them started. Eddie McCallion and McGlynn were shocking in the final third though,:( whilst last week v Sligo their distribution was brilliant.
Schumi
19/07/2007, 12:06 PM
I only saw the first half but by the sounds of it, the second was the same. The question is whether Pyunik played like that on purpose looking for a 0-0 draw or if they're just that bad. If the former, Derry could be in a bit of trouble in the away leg but if Pyunik play like that again, Derry should win.
OneRedArmy
19/07/2007, 12:11 PM
I'm going to descend to stereotypes but Pyunik are a "typical" Southern/Eastern European team. Came to spoil and not concede, had we scored early they would have lost heart and we would've scored a bucketload.
That may well cost us as I'd say they'll be a different team at home. They looked very quick down the flanks as well which doesn't bode well.
Hopefully it wasn't a missed opportunity but I've a feeling they'll be a lot better next week.
TonyD
19/07/2007, 12:16 PM
I didn't think Pyunik were that bad. They were reasonably comfortable in defence and showed a couple of times that they had the potential to be dangerous on the break. Only last ditch interventions from Peter Hutton on a couple of occasions stopped them from getting in. Having said that, Derry are still very much in the tie, and might even get more room to play over there. I thought McCourt had a good game. He was the one Derry player who had them in trouble every time he ran at them. They should have moved him central and looked to get him on the ball as much as possible. Molloy and Hutton alo did well.
Peadar
19/07/2007, 12:39 PM
They looked very quick down the flanks as well which doesn't bode well.
In fairness, you gave them plenty space to run into.
I'd expect & hope that you'd play a tighter game next week.
Even when they did attack, they were fairly impotent so I can't see their level of threat being significantly raised, by virtue of home advantage.
finnpark
19/07/2007, 1:59 PM
I think many on here are blinded by the comments from the RTE commentators.
I think Derry held a lot of possession but created little or no chances. Paddy McCourt had a shot from outside the box, Martyn had a chance near goals but side footed it to the keeper and that was it really. 2 shots maximum on target in the 1st half and I just remember 1 shot on target in the 2nd half and 1 on target for Tunics in each half.
Both teams were poor and anyone thinking Derry are a class above these are only fooling themselves.
OneRedArmy
19/07/2007, 2:02 PM
Im not sure what game most of you were watching but Pyunik were the better side last night. Looked far the more dangerous.
An hour later.....
Both teams were poor and anyone thinking Derry are a class above these are only fooling themselves.Make up your mind.
Both teams were poor and anyone thinking Derry are a class above these are only fooling themselves.
Where did any nonDerry fans say that?
Nearly everyone has said it was a poor game and Derry were poor.
finnpark
19/07/2007, 2:10 PM
Where did any nonDerry fans say that?
Nearly everyone has said it was a poor game and Derry were poor.
Well thats that then :D. Wow some people on here are really easily wound up, especially Derry fans, must have sore heads after last night:eek:
Torn-Ado
19/07/2007, 2:55 PM
If the Derry players learn how to cross the ball, head the ball, pass the ball and work on their first touch, then they might stand a chance in the second leg.
However I don't think that will happen and they'll be out.
Graemerz
19/07/2007, 3:01 PM
After the spouting that co-efficients determines who is better more than head to head matches, seeing that the Armenian champions Pyunik have a higher co-efficient than Linfield, and Derry have a rubbish record against Linfield I'd dare say it doesn't bode well for the European Giants of Londonderry. :eek:
LeixlipRed
19/07/2007, 3:06 PM
After the spouting that co-efficients determines who is better more than head to head matches, seeing that the Armenian champions Pyunik have a higher co-efficient than Linfield, and Derry have a rubbish record against Linfield I'd dare say it doesn't bode well for the European Giants of Londonderry. :eek:
WUM :rolleyes:
Graemerz
19/07/2007, 3:07 PM
WUM :rolleyes:
Did I say something wrong?
GavinZac
19/07/2007, 3:07 PM
co-efficients determines who is better more than head to head matches... and Derry have a rubbish record against Linfield
nice logic *sarcastic smilie*
LeixlipRed
19/07/2007, 3:26 PM
Did I say something wrong?
Nope, but you did load your post with a heap of anti-Derry sentiment
Graemerz
19/07/2007, 3:43 PM
I did no such thing. Just factual information was posted. ;)
and Derry have a rubbish record against Linfield I'd dare say it doesn't bode well for the European Giants of Londonderry. :eek:
I think that part was the anti-Derry sentiment referred to. :rolleyes:
Anyway best of luck to Derry in the away leg, not the best of results at home but 0-0 is not the worst result either. 1 away goal changes everything so you could definitely still go through.
OneRedArmy
19/07/2007, 4:08 PM
After the spouting that co-efficients determines who is better more than head to head matches, seeing that the Armenian champions Pyunik have a higher co-efficient than Linfield, and Derry have a rubbish record against Linfield I'd dare say it doesn't bode well for the European Giants of Londonderry. :eek:Stute i presume?
We'll see how well you do next week anyway. A nice moral victory no doubt?
OneRedArmy
19/07/2007, 4:09 PM
I did no such thing. Just factual information was posted. ;)Give it a few weeks and it won't be factual.
Raheny Red
20/07/2007, 8:54 AM
On a side note, would Shelbourne have faired much worse against Pyunik!?
Wouldn't bother me in the slightest - can't get much worse than the Monaghan result.
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