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kdjaC
23/06/2007, 9:27 PM
On rte in a few minutes.

Live on web too.


Got too love the cheesie ring entrance he does :D


kdjac

sligoman
23/06/2007, 9:32 PM
Hope he wins it. I think he's class the way he acts really confident the whole time, never seems worried about a fight at all. I know someday that will probably backfire on him but hopefully not tonight:).

kdjaC
23/06/2007, 9:36 PM
This another stat padding fight, unless he gets cocky he should win. Noone on my road tonight even the scumbags gone to the fight. Its quite peaceful :)


kdjac

pete
23/06/2007, 9:38 PM
Marty Morrissey is the announcer in the ring. :eek:

kdjaC
23/06/2007, 10:46 PM
Should win it on points, great fight.


kdjac

sligoman
23/06/2007, 10:49 PM
He wins it. Didn't think it'd go the whole way though, great challenger so fair play. Brilliant fight.

kdjaC
23/06/2007, 10:49 PM
Gwan the neilstown :)

Dunne wins on unamous points


kdjac

Lim till i die
23/06/2007, 11:14 PM
Turned my head for a few minutes

Did he cheat wnd open your mans cut up with his head??

I wouldn't claim to be an expert but I think he should put his gloves up a bit more, box cleverer and not be so cocky or he could be in for a land someday

DmanDmythDledge
23/06/2007, 11:24 PM
I wouldn't claim to be an expert but I think he should put his gloves up a bit more, box cleverer and not be so cocky or he could be in for a land someday
Spot on. I can't see him making it to the top.

Lim till i die
23/06/2007, 11:34 PM
Spot on. I can't see him making it to the top.

Couldn't believe the amount of times he dived into close combat with your man - who was tough as nails

THE JAB Bernard, THE JAB!!!

Monkfish
24/06/2007, 12:33 AM
Turned my head for a few minutes

Did he cheat wnd open your mans cut up with his head??

I wouldn't claim to be an expert but I think he should put his gloves up a bit more, box cleverer and not be so cocky or he could be in for a land someday

The fact that his left hand is always dropped is his major fault and has been discussed many times, other than that he is a fine fighter although i dont think he will get a lot of knockouts. Having said that he looked a bit shaky in the last round, think everyone thought that yer man wouldnt last the 12.

Torn-Ado
24/06/2007, 7:15 PM
Dunne will not go any further than he already is I reckon. He is a good boxer but is lacking power. That Norwegian guy should have been on the deck in the first four rounds.

Īd fear for Dunne against a fighter of decent pedigree. Beating No marks from around Europe however...

Risteard
24/06/2007, 7:19 PM
Was yer man not handy like?
Hard to tell for a passing fan like me?

Yer man Martinez and the Canadian are the only fights left for him but a big step up, correct?

Torn-Ado
24/06/2007, 8:47 PM
Was yer man not handy like?
Hard to tell for a passing fan like me?

Yer man Martinez and the Canadian are the only fights left for him but a big step up, correct?

Your man was tough and powerful but a better fighter would have it wrapped up in the first six rounds. I feared for Dunne in the last couple of rounds because the Norwegian was going for it. It was similar to his fight against the Ukranian where he got walloped in the last round and was lucky not to be KO'd.

This Spanish fella will be a different class of opponent. He's unbeaten and has 13 KO's to his name. Dunne will be doing really well if he wins it but >I wouldn't be extremely confident

paul_oshea
25/06/2007, 8:58 AM
if mccullough had dunnes class, he would have won a title by now......i spose you can invert that and dunne could be a far better boxer, i think dunne will struggle against a silky opponent with power, he hasnt really come up against anyone like that lately.

Dodge
25/06/2007, 9:11 AM
Yer man Martinez and the Canadian are the only fights left for him but a big step up, correct?

Martinez is ranked lower than Dunne but his record is OK. Molitar is seen as the weakeest of the 4 world champions, and as such Dunne's best chance of a World Title

Although Boxrec can't always be relied on, they have Dunne ranked 11th in the world (http://www.boxrec.com/ratings.php?division=Super%20Bantamweight) so there are plenty of step ups, just none in Europe. Molitar could be attracted to Dublin though



if mccullough had dunnes class, he would have won a title by now....

McCullough was world champion...

paul_oshea
25/06/2007, 10:39 AM
ya i meant at featherweight, against some of the more famous boxers.


Martinez is ranked lower than Dunne but his record is OK. Molitar is seen as the weakeest of the 4 world champions, and as such Dunne's best chance of a World Title

Although Boxrec can't always be relied on, they have Dunne ranked 11th in the world so there are plenty of step ups, just none in Europe. Molitar could be attracted to Dublin though


thing is to be a really class boxer you need to be able step up and win at another weight, dunne will never reach that, and he would get found out. its a real pity he hasnt the power to match his speed. keeping his left paw down the whole time is going to catch up on him too.

andy lee mixed with dunnes speed would make for a great boxer

Aberdonian Stu
25/06/2007, 10:56 AM
I disagree on the stepping up point. Some fighters are awesome talents but just aren't suited to it, that's why Hatton stepped back down.

Dodge
25/06/2007, 10:59 AM
thing is to be a really class boxer you need to be able step up and win at another weight

Thats rubbish. Most of the little guys move up weight divisions as they get older but if someone was Featherweight champion for 6/7 years they could call themselves a world class fighter

The ability to move up or down in weights means nothing

paul_oshea
25/06/2007, 11:39 AM
from a pound for pound perspective maybe not, but all the greats can move up and still win thats my point.

Dodge
25/06/2007, 11:54 AM
But they move up when they've dominated a weight division or they move up for a big money fight. They don't just move up to prove they can do it.

paul_oshea
25/06/2007, 1:19 PM
ya its money and the lure of a big showdown, which again reverts back to money, but they still can go up and win. really there aren't too many household names that would stick out for dunne to fight next in that division.

bennocelt
25/06/2007, 7:33 PM
Dunne will not go any further than he already is I reckon. He is a good boxer but is lacking power. That Norwegian guy should have been on the deck in the first four rounds.

Īd fear for Dunne against a fighter of decent pedigree. Beating No marks from around Europe however...

what are you talking about!:rolleyes:
that Norwegian was a bloody good battler, sure he wasnt a Mexican or whatever, but he had guts, and i think this was the perfect fight for Dunne, he couldnt have asked for a better preparation

Torn-Ado
25/06/2007, 9:07 PM
what are you talking about!:rolleyes:
that Norwegian was a bloody good battler, sure he wasnt a Mexican or whatever, but he had guts, and i think this was the perfect fight for Dunne, he couldnt have asked for a better preparation

Exactly. He was a 'bloddy good battler' as you say. But how much talent did he really have. Dunne had the beating of him in every round but didn't have the power to put him on his arse which better fighters would have done.

I wouldn't expect to see him beat the Spaniard in his next fight.

Dodge
25/06/2007, 9:21 PM
I wouldn't expect to see him beat the Spaniard in his next fight.

Have you seen him fight?

Torn-Ado
25/06/2007, 9:45 PM
Have you seen him fight?

No but I've seen his record which includes 13 knockouts and zero defeats which indicates that he's a powerful fighter. It will be interesting to see how Dunne will do but I don't think he'll win tbh.

DmanDmythDledge
25/06/2007, 9:53 PM
No but I've seen his record which includes 13 knockouts and zero defeats which indicates that he's a powerful fighter. It will be interesting to see how Dunne will do but I don't think he'll win tbh.
Dunne has more wins and more knockouts, without losing, although Martinez does have 13/16 KOs.

Dodge
25/06/2007, 11:06 PM
No but I've seen his record which includes 13 knockouts and zero defeats which indicates that he's a powerful fighter. It will be interesting to see how Dunne will do but I don't think he'll win tbh.

It indicates nothing, It could indicate he's fought nothing but ****e

Torn-Ado
25/06/2007, 11:56 PM
It indicates nothing, It could indicate he's fought nothing but ****e

Maybe but it could also indicate that he literally battered 13 out of 16 oponents into submission, bums or not. Its impressive, as is Dunnes record but watching Dunnes last few fights, tells me that he may be lacking power.

Dodge
26/06/2007, 3:22 AM
The point I was making is that you've seen only one fighter so you can't say what would happen

bennocelt
26/06/2007, 10:52 AM
No but I've seen his record which includes 13 knockouts and zero defeats which indicates that he's a powerful fighter. It will be interesting to see how Dunne will do but I don't think he'll win tbh.


so you are going for a fighter you have never seen, against a decent boxer like Dunne
strange:confused:

Big Ears
27/06/2007, 3:44 PM
The point I was making is that you've seen only one fighter so you can't say what would happen

Exactly , Spaniards are notorious for having padded record and then being destroyed when they stepped up . Martinez won't be utter **** , because he has stopped some guys on his record quicker than other notable opponents and has clearly beaten some of the tougher journeymen in Europe .
But if someone was to offer me the bet now that Kiko Martinez would not only lose to Dunne but will also never win a world title I'd take it .

Simply because I've seen it all before , Spanish fighters are fed weak opponents at home , get a nice record then fight for the European title(a perfect example is Sergio Palomo-http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=049294)
and then lose and don't do much after that .
Sometimes they have a decent punch and like Martinez stops most of his opponents and does it quickly .

Ever so often they produce a Castillejo http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=001308 but the truth is 95% of the time Spaniards are brought up with padded records and exposed at European level .

Despite what Dodge said Daniel Ponce De Leon(WBO) is the weakest of the champions but Molitor is the best suited to Dunne as he is a much lighter hitter than the rest .

SeaniesRedArmy
29/06/2007, 9:43 PM
However it is clear that the spaniard is going to be dunnes toughest fight to date plus the fact he wont be fighting in front of his home crowd