Proportional representation Discussion

[John83]

There was a guy on RTE explaining the electronic voting mess from the last time. He explained that the department had never tested the devices or the software. As someone who works in that area i can tell you nobody accepts delivery of a software system without passing their own tests.
Some Dutch punters raised their own concerns about electronic voting in the Netherlands. A computer is a computer - you can programme them to do nearly anything. Their relevant minister (I'm not going to look up his name, so let's call him "Märtin Cullen") told them that these weren't computers, they were machines. The Dutch punters hacked a voting machine to make it play chess. The Dutch still use the machines.


explain?
Neither of your points has anything to do with electronic voting. It doesn't get any clearer.

[Macy]

Plenty of the population took their time to come around to ATM's, a technology that might not be the best example given ghost transactions, skimming etc. The most important thing with an electoral system is that the electorate have faith in it. With the current, dust gathering, system they clearly do not and no amount of bs from Bertie about auld pencils is going to change that. So what is needed is a system that will enable a manual check that will give confidence to the people that their votes can be checked, and give us a fall back if it is ever hacked.

The fact that FF seem to be back pushing it hard would probably raise suspicions rather than remove them.

[Aberdonian Stu]

I thought I was seeing double.

Really? I thought he was devastatingly handsome.

[pete]

The government/department need to decide what their requirements for the system are. They then need to put out a tender for the contract. When they purchase a system they need to ensure it passes their own internal tests. This basis project management.

Most likely this will be outsourced to consultants given the b***s that the department made of it the first time.

The existing devices are not networked so likelihood of hacking is remote.

With any requirement they will to balance the need for votes to be anonymous & traceability of the results.

[BohsPartisan]

Most likely this will be outsourced to consultants given the b***s that the department made of it the first time.



PPARS was made a ball of by consultants as was the pensions system. What makes you think they won't do likewise with this?

[pineapple stu]

Plenty of the population took their time to come around to ATM's, a technology that might not be the best example given ghost transactions, skimming etc.
The main difference between the two is that ATMs are really useful for when banks are closed (which is most of the time) or when you can't get down to them, whereas we have a perfectly workable alternative to electronic voting and so don't really need to bring it in.

[pete]

PPARS was made a ball of by consultants as was the pensions system. What makes you think they won't do likewise with this?

If the eVoting consultants get a contract where they are paid per hour with feck all requirements or oversight they will do the same as PPARS. I could add the integrated ticketing system to that list too.