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harps1954
16/05/2007, 1:24 PM
Just heard that Longford Town have been deducted six points.:eek: Don't know why or what the full story is yet.
So much for a season without *'s on the league table!
Terrible news for the league just when things were going well.
It's a club licensing issue- http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2037
Torn-Ado
16/05/2007, 1:30 PM
Thats great news.
:D
Jerry The Saint
16/05/2007, 1:42 PM
http://www.eircomloi.ie/news_item_91.htm
Longford Town receive 6 point deduction
Wednesday, May 16th , 2.30pm
The FAI Club Licensing Committee met yesterday (May 15, 2007) to review the current compliance status of clubs on whom sanctions were imposed by the Committee on April 16, 2007.
The Committee had given these clubs a further extension, to May 1, 2007, to provide the required information previously due on March 31, 2007. Clubs were on notice that failure to comply by this date would result in fines being imposed.
With the exception of one club, all requested information was provided in time for the Licensing Committee meeting yesterday.
Longford Town FC, however, failed to provide the necessary information and as such they were non-compliant with the requirements of the FAI Club Licensing Manual.
Having already incurred a fine of €6,000, the Committee decided to impose a further sanction on Longford Town FC of a six point deduction in view of the club’s continued failure to adhere to licensing requirements.
The club has five business days to lodge an appeal.
With the exception of one club, all requested information was provided in time for the Licensing Committee meeting yesterday.
So I take it that Shels are in the clear then - all outstanding tax and wage liabilities paid up:confused: Fair play, can't have been easy.
sligoman
16/05/2007, 1:45 PM
Sorry but have to laugh as I know a Longford fan and I'm just picturing his reaction to this:D.
galwayhoop
16/05/2007, 1:46 PM
Longford won't come back from this
i presume they will appeal and get a fine instead. it seems seriously harsh tbh. i think our league is by far and away the quickest anywhere to hand out points deductions. if the 6 points remains deducted then longford are fcuked.
i would hate for us to avoid relegation like that ;)
John83
16/05/2007, 1:50 PM
The Committee had given these clubs a further extension, to May 1, 2007, to provide the required information previously due on March 31, 2007.
Anyone know what kind of information?
Anyone know what kind of information?
I understand that Longford wouldn't even tell them that, that's why they got so angry.
harps1954
16/05/2007, 1:53 PM
From what I hear, they haven't produced their accounts. Shamrock Rovers were deducted seven points because of this in 2005 and Limerick lost their licence for more or less the same last year. Shels relegated last year too for outstanding payments to players and tax man.
I can see Alan Matthews walking away from Longford now, as he seems to be fighting a losing battle down there. Longford have had a problem with their licence for a few years now, so I suppose it is something that has been waiting to happen. It would do Longford no harm to do what Rovers and Shels have done - drop down to Division One, regroup and get their club in order and then aim to come up again in the future as a better run club.
I think the last two/three years are showing that licensing will work. Clubs must realise that they have to get their houses in order. In the long run, we'll have a better league for it.
Jerry The Saint
16/05/2007, 2:02 PM
i presume they will appeal and get a fine instead.
But they already got a fine and still didn't comply with the regulations. Going by the letter of the law, they may be lucky not to be stripped of their license and would not want to risk this by appealing further (as with SRFC previously).
Landbrokes had Longford at 12/1 at the start of the season to be first team to be deducted points.
When was the last eL season without a * ?
RonnieB
16/05/2007, 2:05 PM
Oh joy.
Landbrokes had Longford at 12/1 at the start of the season to be first team to be deducted points.
When was the last eL season without a * ?
"an *", surely.
Its hard to know why Longford deducted points at this stage but I suppose as long as the rules are implemented consistently its kind of good thing. The FAI League seems to be much more decisive than the old eL league run by the clubs,
Surprise, surprise - Longford have simply been deducted the points total that they currently possess.
Does that mean that the FAI "rule" on this matter is something along the lines of: "How many points do they have? Ah sure that'll do!"
Lim till i die
16/05/2007, 2:18 PM
Landbrokes had Longford at 12/1 at the start of the season to be first team to be deducted points.
:eek:
Now that betting market says all you need to know about how the League of Ireland is percieved :o
MyTown
16/05/2007, 2:25 PM
We're due to play them next Tuesday week. Wonder will they do a Dublin City - or will they see the game as an early opportunity to get at least three points back?:eek:
Risteard
16/05/2007, 3:10 PM
The only stars in the League of Ireland are on the premier dvision table.
Would be a witty comment from a barstooler, no?
Martinho II
16/05/2007, 3:16 PM
fantastic news . roll on promotion.
Tis-smeee
16/05/2007, 3:17 PM
And cup specialists only a few years ago, are you watching drogheda
The only stars in the League of Ireland are on the premier dvision table.
Would be a witty comment from a barstooler, no?
No.
That would in fact be a comment of staggering profundity, insight, humour and intelligense coming from a barstooler.
It'll never happen though.
BohsFans
16/05/2007, 3:44 PM
When was the last eL season without a * ?
2004
..
2004
..
Athlone were deducted 3 points that year for fielding an unregistered player.
BohsFans
16/05/2007, 3:49 PM
Athlone were deducted 3 points that year for fielding an unregistered player.
Premier, the first doesn't really matter that much I'm afraid!
passinginterest
16/05/2007, 3:53 PM
If anything points deductions might make people take more of an interest in the league. After all they're all doing it in England, possibility of West Ham in Premiership, Leeds in first, pretty sure some team in League One also. Just look down through the tables on Sky Sports news, hardly a division without an asterix. :)
* That would be Rotherham in League One and Crawley town in the Conference
* All the cool kids are doing it
* Look they make lovely bullet points
* See
* :)
Schumi
16/05/2007, 3:55 PM
2000/2001 was the last season without a points deduction (including 2002/3 when Longford's was revoked). That's 7 seasons in a row!
OneRedArmy
16/05/2007, 3:58 PM
They shouldn't have got a License in the first place.
Harsh but true.
They should've been relegated and would've had the chance to cut their cloth and re-build in the 1st division. Now they are effectively fecked as far as the Premier goes and no doubt getting into more debt.
DmanDmythDledge
16/05/2007, 3:59 PM
They shouldn't have got a License in the first place.
Harsh but true.
Don't think that would have been harsh at all.
And cup specialists only a few years ago, are you watching drogheda
watching the relief on waterford utds face .This means you might not go down dosent it ?
dcfcsteve
16/05/2007, 4:14 PM
2000/2001 was the last season without a points deduction (including 2002/3 when Longford's was revoked). That's 7 seasons in a row!
I don't think we should be getting hung-up on the asterisks.
It's clear that Longford aren't playing by the books here, so some sort of penalty is due.
If it takes another decade of asterisks on the league tables before clubs get their houses in order and take licensing seriously, then so be it. It's the league as a whole that will benefit form weeding out the mediocrity.
When was the last time the English Premiership wasn't mirred in some sort of contaversy - from flying pizzas, to flying boots, to players assaulting each other, to dogs going for unapproved walkies !?!
MojoPin
16/05/2007, 5:14 PM
i dont think is that bad of a blip for the league as for once its their professionalism that has actually cause the points deductions... there i said it the league is professional for once.....
shall i leave now???
monkey magic
16/05/2007, 5:39 PM
fantastic, thats us fooked for this season so..
unlike some clubs you wont find a longford fan that didnt see this coming though...
OneRedArmy
16/05/2007, 6:56 PM
fantastic, thats us fooked for this season so..
unlike some clubs you wont find a longford fan that didnt see this coming though...Even taking into account this press release?
http://www.ltfc.ie/news/article/?id=761e6d1c-753f-4aa6-81a3-24d96d992b11
Would appear to be an element of ostrich-like behaviour going on within the club.
blue til i die
16/05/2007, 7:18 PM
watching the relief on waterford utds face .This means you might not go down dosent it ?
Why so sure we're gona go down in the first place??
Tis-smeee
16/05/2007, 7:23 PM
I was watching last saturday and well done it was deserved, now all you need to do is reach the champions league 1/4 final to break even
Surprise, surprise - Longford have simply been deducted the points total that they currently possess.
Does that mean that the FAI "rule" on this matter is something along the lines of: "How many points do they have? Ah sure that'll do!"
It was similar with us wasn't it?
blackholesun
16/05/2007, 7:51 PM
Glad to see FAI continue to crack down on rogue clubs ... the league and the clubs will be the better of it in the long run ... ive no sympathy for them ... loads of stories about water being almost cut off etc doing the rounds for months ... where theres smoke theres fire!
bhs
Paddyfield
16/05/2007, 10:05 PM
All this is just the FAI giving Galway United a dig-out, again.
Can this club achieve anything on the field of play or are they totally dependent on the FAI?:p :p
Wow. The FAI deducted points from Longford to give Galway United a dig out again.
Longford fans must be really peeved about this because they probably didn't deserve the points reduction but understand that it must be done for Galway United's survival in the Premier Division.
Olander
16/05/2007, 10:48 PM
All this is just the FAI giving Galway United a dig-out, again.
Can this club achieve anything on the field of play or are they totally dependent on the FAI?:p :p
could you possibly be more bitter stephen
gilberto_eire
17/05/2007, 12:43 AM
All this is just the FAI giving Galway United a dig-out, again.
Can this club achieve anything on the field of play or are they totally dependent on the FAI?:p :p
there giving us a ''dig-out''??.... didnt your momma ever tell ya you cant ''dig-out'':rolleyes: ...hence the expression ''trying to dig your way out of a hole''
dependent on the FAI??.... sure it was the AIG who handled all that not the FAI..... your jokes are just as good as your research!!
In all fairness this is a big issue that has a direct effect on a number of other clubs and should have been kept in the general section. The Shelbourne threads were a staple of the eL section for months sure!
MyTown
17/05/2007, 9:13 AM
In all fairness this is a big issue that has a direct effect on a number of other clubs and should have been kept in the general section. The Shelbourne threads were a staple of the eL section for months sure!
Agree Galway Harps.
Far from the snide postings of Dundalk's finest (SDuffy), I am genuinely sorry for Longford, if only because I know it could be any one of a number of clubs, at any time.
The contrast with Longford GAA could not be more stark. In Longford GAA, you have a county that has achieved absolutely nothing (okay there's a bit of momentum behind them now) on the field, BUT off the field they are brilliantly run. They had a tent at the Punchestown races every year for the last three or four years (wealthy builders etc.) and they have generated very serious revenue. Watch the improvement on the field in the coming years.
If only the soccer team, which, irony of ironies, has had quite a bit of success on the field in recent years, could come close to that kind of support from their local community.
In short it looks like the midlands pendulum is swinging back towards Athlone, but I take no comfort at all from Longford being docked points. If there's any consolation for them, didn't Shamrock Rovers really start to put it together ON the pitch, AFTER they got their points deduction under Mr. Collins management?
This is a particularly sad case as Longford were an inspiration to a lot of clubs, as for a while we were fooled into thinking everything was being done right there (maybe for a while it was). They went from nowhere to trophies in an incredibly short space of time and built one of the better stadiums in the country virtually overnight. Just a pity their support never really grew as might have been expected and that a lot of the success was obviously just bought.
Really hope they can pull through this.
Conor H
17/05/2007, 10:22 AM
Sduffy is constantly having digs and snide remarks at UTD both here and on the Dundalk MB.
It was only the last day pointed out in another thread his obsession with us.
Nevertheless..best of Luck against Kilkenny City tonight.:)
bigmac
17/05/2007, 11:58 AM
... loads of stories about water being almost cut off etc doing the rounds for months ... where theres smoke theres fire!
of course there's fire - there's no water to put it out!!
Matthews sounded pretty much resigned to it on the radio last night - said the club had plenty of warning and couldn't complain about it. not good for the pr of the league, but could be a good sign that they're getting a bit more serious about licencing.
Galwayutdcelt
17/05/2007, 2:57 PM
of that decison.
DmanDmythDledge
17/05/2007, 3:06 PM
I don't like to be honest
The fact that it happened or the decision?
lofty9
17/05/2007, 3:09 PM
I'm nearly sure this was posted yesterday. Where did the other thread go, or am I going mad?
dcfcsteve
17/05/2007, 3:12 PM
Who cares what people think.
We've been moaning on here for years about the shambles that is the FAI/EL. Then when the FAI implement their rules, following clear warnings to those involved, there then appear to be some people not happy that they've been implemented..... :eek:
The size of reduction does feel rather arbitrary, but anyone with the best interests of our financially shambolic league at heart surely can't complain about financial rules being implemented....? :confused:
More signs of the FAI finally geting its act together.
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