View Full Version : Highest Premier Division Wage budget
paudie
03/05/2007, 12:54 PM
Why not?
Presumably its publicly available at Companies House.
Not if Linfield aren't a company. If they are strictly a members club like a GAA club they wouldn't have to lodge anything.
Even if it was a company (in ROI at least) it might not have to file all the accounts info with Companies House, depending on the type of company it is.
OneRedArmy
03/05/2007, 1:20 PM
By fudging it. I fully expect to see directors' loans or donations or buying 'shares' being allowed as part of income.In fairness Schumi, if you applied a strictly turnover based measure Abramovic wouldn't have taken over Chelsea and in relation to the EL, the standard would drop to junior level.
If a club is lucky enough to have wealthy supporters they should be allowed to use this, in the same way that say, a university club gets a sweet deal off its parent institution.
hoops1
03/05/2007, 3:31 PM
(over a quarter of a million last season if i recall correctly) .
How did you manage that?
Steve Bruce
03/05/2007, 3:56 PM
How did you manage that?
Working within our budget. I expect a bigger profit this year. I'll know better tomorrow night.
Bald Student
03/05/2007, 4:05 PM
If a club is lucky enough to have wealthy supporters they should be allowed to use this, in the same way that say, a university club gets a sweet deal off its parent institution.You can see the difference between the two can't you? If Drogs' wealthy supporters decide to leave, for whatever reason, the club is left with a debt so high that it could never trade out of it. That's very different from getting free use of a University's facilities.
OneRedArmy
03/05/2007, 4:12 PM
You can see the difference between the two can't you? If Drogs' wealthy supporters decide to leave, for whatever reason, the club is left with a debt so high that it could never trade out of it. That's very different from getting free use of a University's facilities.Of course I can see the difference, but by the same token its possible the university may decide it doesn't want a senior football side any more.
Wage caps have to be pragmatic and can't eliminate risk, they can only mitigate or reduce it. Even if you implement a purely revenue based limit, a sharp drop in attendence or the loss of a major sponsorship deal could have dramatic effects on clubs finances.
Maybe I'm a cynic, but I'm not surprised UCDD fans would be against wealthy benefactors personal contributions, as I suspect you don't have a history of receiving them, therefore its in your interest to oppose other clubs being able to use them.
Bald Student
03/05/2007, 4:43 PM
Maybe I'm a cynic, but I'm not surprised UCDD fans would be against wealthy benefactors personal contributions, as I suspect you don't have a history of receiving them, therefore its in your interest to oppose other clubs being able to use them.I don't have any problem with a wealthy benefactor making a contribution. What I have a problem with is a wealthy benefactor giving a big loan. The key difference being that a donation doesn't have strings attached.
On the other (less relevant) point, UCDD could decide that it doesn't want to field an eL team any more, just as the members of Bohs or Shams or the owners of Derry could decide the same. I think these risks are negligable and, in any case, there's a difference between a club volunterally stepping out of the league and one leaving because it exploded financially.
AnnaghRed
03/05/2007, 9:14 PM
Countries of similar sizes in Norway and Sweden support their leagues.
Sweden has a population twice that of Ireland, and the Premier Division in Norway had an average attendance of 9194 last season.
The bottom-line is that full time football is not sustainable on average crowds of 2000 odd.
superfrank
03/05/2007, 9:45 PM
Sweden has a population twice that of Ireland, and the Premier Division in Norway had an average attendance of 9194 last season.
The bottom-line is that full time football is not sustainable on average crowds of 2000 odd.
I meant total population. It's between the 5-6 million mark last time I heard in Norway, Sweden and on the entire island of Ireland.
Schumi
03/05/2007, 9:47 PM
I meant total population. It's between the 5-6 million mark last time I heard in Norway, Sweden and on the entire island of Ireland.Sweden's population is a lot higher than Norway's, 8-9 million I think. Norway's is similar to Ireland's.
superfrank
03/05/2007, 9:50 PM
Sweden's population is a lot higher than Norway's, 8-9 million I think. Norway's is similar to Ireland's.
Oh well. I haven't looked it up in years. Well surely Norway is a perfect mocel then. Rosenborg have been relatively succesful in Europe in the past. Imo, the FAI should look at what's been undertaken over there.
AnnaghRed
03/05/2007, 9:57 PM
I meant total population. It's between the 5-6 million mark last time I heard in Norway, Sweden and on the entire island of Ireland.
Oh.
Well Sweden has over 9 million anyway
Denmark is similar in size to the south, but they have average crowds round the 8000+ mark.
Realistically speaking, that is never gonna happen in Ireland.
pineapple stu
03/05/2007, 9:58 PM
Rosenborg have been relatively succesful in Europe in the past. Imo, the FAI should look at what's been undertaken over there.
They did. It was mentioned in the Genesis Report. They decided the best way to get there was to promote Galway ahead of Dundalk.
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