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Wolfie
17/04/2007, 4:11 PM
Unlikely. According to http://www.goalkeepersaredifferent.com/keeper/netframe.htm
P.S. The Dunlop you are thinking of may be this one, a Scot who invented the pneumatic tyre in Belfast and gave his name to the giant Tyre company:
http://www.ulsterhistory.co.uk/johndunlop.htm
A Revolutionary idea if ever there was one......;)
EalingGreen
17/04/2007, 4:53 PM
Sweden away, Spain away, even Latvia away? Sanchez taking the Fulham job full time (it'll happen). The fall is coming EalingGreen, not that you have any great heights to fall form.
Hmm, I suppose if you keep making enough predictions, one of them might come true sometime.
At least you've a better chance with that effort than with your last try in February:
"You're so biased you no longer inhabit reality as far as football is concerned. Sweden the end of March will give you a reality check if Liechenstein don't manage to do it beforehand"
For the record:
24/03/07 - Liechtenstein 1 v 4 NI
28/03/07 - NI 2 v 1 Sweden
Anyhow, enough of the future, have you managed to decide about when your history began, 1921 or 1880? Just asking...
Poor Student
17/04/2007, 4:57 PM
Someone was saying that 8 of the 1976 European Championship winning Czechoslovakian team were actuall from Slovakia, although most people will say Slovakia have never qualified for the Euros, but the Czechs have won it. How do you allocate that victory then? 8/11th to Slovakia, maybe with an allowance for subs? In reality, they'd pretty much have to share the win. Same situation here really.
I've heard that the USSR team was often made up mainly of Ukranians and Georgians, particularly in the early 1980's.
youngirish
17/04/2007, 4:59 PM
Anyhow, enough of the future, have you managed to decide about when your history began, 1921 or 1880? Just asking...
I answered earlier. You must have been busy looking for that post you quoted above.
What about our victories over the Welsh and the Slovaks? You had us dead and buried after the San Marino game. I'd say you cheered every goal.
I've heard that the USSR team was often made up mainly of Ukranians and Georgians, particularly in the early 1980's.
Yeah at the 86 World Cup the entire first team bar a single player were Ukranian (I believe thay were all Dinamo Kiev players).
pineapple stu
17/04/2007, 5:07 PM
I've heard that the USSR team was often made up mainly of Ukranians and Georgians, particularly in the early 1980's.
It was. We basically drew with Ukraine - Dinamo Kiev, in fact - in Euro 88.
Poor Student
17/04/2007, 5:21 PM
Probably had something to do with Lobanovsky did it?
pineapple stu
17/04/2007, 5:30 PM
Basically. Though he would have analysed and selected the best players for Kiev with the intention that they would have been the national team, by and large (some big name players like Dasayev were let join foreign clubs).
EalingGreen
17/04/2007, 6:15 PM
I answered earlier. You must have been busy looking for that post you quoted above.
What about our victories over the Welsh and the Slovaks? You had us dead and buried after the San Marino game. I'd say you cheered every goal.
My mistake; I had read your post (#33), but for some reason didn't take in that it was yours (:confused: )
As for my opinion prior to the Wales game, this is what I posted:
"Consequently, I think the two teams are evenly matched. I think you'll do well to get a draw in Cardiff, though should hope (just) to beat them in Dublin.
I think a great deal rests on how motivated the teams are on the day.
As such, now that Toshack looks to be setting his own "stamp" on the team by getting rid of players he doesn't like, such as Savage, the Welsh players may have more belief in their manager's selection and tactics than the Irish do in Staunton.
That said, I think the Croker Factor will give you a huge boost.
A close call all round, I'd say."
From what I gather, ROI did just enough to beat what turned out on the day to be a very poor Wales team, so other than overestimating Toshack's influence, I wasn't too far off with my prediction.
I don't think I ever said much (if anything) about Slovakia, since I know much less about them than Wales.
As for my reaction as the goals went in, I was in Vaduz during the Wales match and in a huge London pub full of Swedes and NI fans watching our match whilst the ROI v Slovakia game was on, so I couldn't/wasn't paying any attention to the ROI's progress.
But seeing as you ask, it looks to me as if those two results were a short-term gain (points/seeding etc), but a long-term loss, since it reinforces Stan's position. And as I see it, notwithstanding (narrow) wins over S.Marino, Wales and Slovakia, he will never make an international manager.
But I'm allowing myself to get dragged off topic :(
Erstwhile Bóz
17/04/2007, 10:22 PM
i am happy to support Ireland with good conscience and feel that I am a decent Irishman.
Who represents you? Bohs??
God no. Not "represent". Sort of — for the ninety minutes if I'm at the match; I'm far too crap a fan, though, to expect much representation at club level. I barstool/armchair quite effectively for Liverpool and probably receive a modicum of representation from them.
The way I see it there's no way either of the two teams can represent me on the international stage. No big deal! Certainly not the most tragic personal circumstances arising out of the two-state state of affairs.
I totally withdraw my 5-in-the-morning "decent Irishman" terminology, btw.
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