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100% false. Can't actually believe some people still think that
Jerry The Saint
12/04/2007, 9:45 AM
I thought this was archived under 'Myths and Legends', in the 'Aren't us Irish great' file.
See Also:
- Pele got his name from the Christian Brothers who called him 'Peile'
- Socrates played for UCD
- Panathanaikos was founded by an Irishman (possibly a Shamrock Rovers fan) who designed their crest and jerseys...
The persistence of this rumour is a good example of Stephen Colbert's principle of Wikiality (http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/player.jhtml?ml_video=72347&ml_collection=&ml_gateway=&ml_gateway_id=&ml_comedian=&ml_runtime=&ml_context=show&ml_origin_url=%2Fmotherload%2Findex.jhtml%3Fml_vid eo%3D72347&ml_playlist=&lnk=&is_large=true)
You see, any user can change any entry, and if enough other users agree with them, it becomes true. ... If only the entire body of human knowledge worked this way. And it can, thanks to tonight's word: Wikiality. Now, folks, I'm no fan of reality, and I'm no fan of encyclopedias. I've said it before. Who is Britannica to tell me that George Washington had slaves? If I want to say he didn't, that's my right. And now, thanks to Wikipedia, it's also a fact.
We should apply these principles to all information. All we need to do is convince a majority of people that some factoid is true. ... What we're doing is bringing democracy to knowledge
don ramo
12/04/2007, 11:00 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_national_football_team
bottom of the page on the triva section, 4th line down, i got it wrong not the first team to play them, but the first team to play them in a friendly after the war,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ireland_national_football_team_-_1930s_Results
gamem was a draw
gspain
12/04/2007, 11:06 AM
This is definitely not true. Apparently green is the official colour of the DFB (German Football Association).
This is an old urban myth that keeps getting repeated. They played Switzerland home and away, Turkey and Austria before coming to Dublin.
don ramo
12/04/2007, 11:16 AM
they played them in competitive fixtures cause they were drawn against them and they palyed at neutral venues, ireland were the first team to agree to a friendly on german soil after the war, this made the other teams come around and eventually they started playin them at home, the second link i posted was ireland fixtures from the 30's as you see we palyed them away in Weserstadion, Bremen, Germany,
it must be a conspiracy:D
Quoting Wikipedia isn't the most reliable source.
Your first link gives these two quotes, one paragraph apart:
Historically, green shirt with white shorts is the most often used alternative colour combination, derived from the DFB colours
Germany's common use of a green-coloured away jersey appears to be in recognition of the fact that Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ireland_national_football_team) were the first nation to play Germany in a friendly game after World War 2
The reference link for the Irish one is to a Guardian article, where someone wrote in to answer the same question, again with no reference provided.
Risteard
12/04/2007, 11:29 AM
Wasn't there a letter from the DFB posted on foot.ie clarifying this?
Dodge
12/04/2007, 12:04 PM
Its also the reason why German police cars are green...
Erstwhile Bóz
12/04/2007, 12:07 PM
Das Paddywagon.
don ramo
12/04/2007, 12:10 PM
fair enough, suppose well never know, it would be nice though
das paddywagon:D
DmanDmythDledge
12/04/2007, 2:27 PM
Socrates played for UCD
Socrates never played for UCD.
Socrates never played for UCD.
You might want to re-read his post. He wasn't claiming that.
osarusan
12/04/2007, 2:52 PM
Socrates never played for UCD.
It's just an urban myth that he never played for them.;)
holidaysong
13/04/2007, 3:13 PM
I was informed by my German flatmate last year that Germany play in white as it is the colour of the largest province in Germany. Their away kit is green as it is the colour of the second largest province in Germany.
bigmac
13/04/2007, 3:29 PM
I was informed by my German flatmate last year that Germany play in white as it is the colour of the largest province in Germany. Their away kit is green as it is the colour of the second largest province in Germany.
That sounds to me like the German equivalent of a Cork fan saying Ireland play in Green cos Cork City play in green! :D I bet he was from one of these provinces - Das Real Kapital!
sullanefc
14/04/2007, 5:31 PM
Yeah but many in their crowd also spent the entire match chewing on bits of straw and waving at planes flying overhead.
:D I nearly fell off my seat after reading that:D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_national_football_team
bottom of the page on the triva section, 4th line down, i got it wrong not the first team to play them, but the first team to play them in a friendly after the war,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ireland_national_football_team_-_1930s_Results
gamem was a draw
they played them in competitive fixtures cause they were drawn against them and they palyed at neutral venues, ireland were the first team to agree to a friendly on german soil after the war, this made the other teams come around and eventually they started playin them at home, the second link i posted was ireland fixtures from the 30's as you see we palyed them away in Weserstadion, Bremen, Germany,
it must be a conspiracy:D
But the War ended in 1944. The game you refer to was in 1939, just as the war was beginning. The first time Ireland played a German team (West) after the war was in Dalymount in 1951.
I'm more inclined to believe that green is the colour of Bavaria, a region in Germany.
BohsPartisan
15/04/2007, 8:14 AM
But the War ended in 1944.
OMG so all those guys who died in 1945 fighting the Germans just didn't get the news?
Da Real Rover
15/04/2007, 12:26 PM
why is it that wexfords county strip is purple and gold yet the soccer team wares black and white,
as with cork who are red and white with the soccer team wareing green and white:confused: :confused:
cant put me finger in this at all.
Worst post ever!!
What have we got to do with county colours??
The gaa colours which have got sweet fuk all to do with me. Football does not exist within the realm of gaa traditions, it has is its own separate identity from where its from, in Sligo anyway. So that is why we do not climb on the identitys of gaa traditions because we have our own football traditions.
And its not soccer its football!!
gspain
16/04/2007, 2:51 PM
they played them in competitive fixtures cause they were drawn against them and they palyed at neutral venues, ireland were the first team to agree to a friendly on german soil after the war, this made the other teams come around and eventually they started playin them at home, the second link i posted was ireland fixtures from the 30's as you see we palyed them away in Weserstadion, Bremen, Germany,
it must be a conspiracy:D
What is your source for this?
What competitions were these other games played in if ours were the first friendlies?
West Germany's games post WW2 up until our visit in 1952.
199 22/11/1950 Stuttgart Switzerland 1-0
200 15/ 4/1951 Zürich, Sui Switzerland 3-2
201 17/ 6/1951 Berlin Turkey 1-2
202 23/ 9/1951 Wien, Aut Austria 2-0
203 17/10/1951 Dublin, Irl Ireland 2-3
204 21/11/1951 Istanbul, Tur Turkey 2-0
205 23/12/1951 Essen Luxembourg 4-1
206 20/ 4/1952 Luxembourg, Lux Luxembourg 3-0
207 4/ 5/1952 Köln Ireland 3-0
As you can see they had played 2 home and 2 away games before coming to Dublin. Switzerland, turkey and Luxembourg had all visited Germany before we played in Cologne.
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