Do you want Ireland to win, yes or no?

[keenanboy]

I think we'll get the win. I must say I think the media have been particularly like their counterparts across the pond on this one. Can't blame Stan for giving them all of 30 seconds yesterday out in Malahide when every time he opens his mouth they jump down his throat with cheap shots, picking up on everything he utters. As for those whingers who would rather see Ireland lose as some sort of 'collateral damage' measure and guarantee Stauntons departure sicken me to the pit of my stomach. Will be a cold day in hell when I will any team representing my country to lose.

[TonyD]

No.

BohsPartisan argues my opinion.:D

Echo that. I used to be an Ireland fan. Not anymore. The treatment of Kerr by the FAI, the fans and the media was the final straw for me. If that makes me unpatriotic, so be it.

[Lim till i die]

Good god NO

But then I never want Oirland to win :)

[co. down green]

Good god NO

But then I never want Oirland to win :)

Have a great evening tomorrow

Go shopping with the wife or wash the car:p

[backstothewall]

I want Ireland to win, and win well, but i would prefer defeat to a draw.

[Paulie]

No but thats a different matter. I'll always be represented by Bohs because I'm a member so I'll always feel a part of the club. Club always comes before country for me anyway.

Having said that our defeat to Rovers in the cup last year did result in Farrelly's sacking so maybe that wasn't a bad thing after all.
Plus the reason I feel Ireland don't represent me is not the results, its the whole set up, its the attitude of a section of the players and its Delaney and Staunton themselves.

I don't see it as being a different matter. I have simply asked you how you would react if you found the team you support in the same situation that I find myself in with the team I support. The fact that yours is a club side and mine is a national side is irrelevant in the context of the point that is being made. You state that it's the whole set up, the attitude of the players and John Delaney that you have an issue with. This brings me back to my original question, if a similar situation existed at your club would you want them to lose? There is a big difference between wanting them to lose going into a game and in hindsight seeing the benefits of a loss a few months down the road.

As for your point about being represented by Bohs because you are a member, surely it's the other way around, that you're a member because you feel represented by Bohs. I presume your dedication came first and your joining the club was just a result of that.

I suspect, although I might be wrong, that you've never really felt represented by the national side and that as a result you're far less willing to stick with them when the going gets tough. Hell would probably freeze over before you'd stop supporting Bohs but with regard to Ireland I get the impression you were probably not that fussed in the first place.

[Paulie]

Wow, Paulie....will you marry me.....

Tempting and all as that offer is I'm going to have to pass.

[RogerMilla]

i want ireland to win , end of story

[Countyman]

Crazy stuff. Of course Ireland to win. Always.

[mistergreen]

Crazy Stuff is right!
The criticisim of Steve Staunton in the press has been over the top, nasty, and vindictive.
The majority of journalists in this country are more interested in maintaining their own brand than writing objectively about football.
Roy Keane - then pours petrol on things. Why not - may as well stick the boot in when a man is down. Half of the Irish nation then believe this man's crap - because Roy said it - not that there is any objective basis to it.
Can you believe what the press would say if Stan said that there had been a bias against Dundalk. And then the comments on Shay Given! This is from a man who walked out on his country during the World Cup and who feigned injury to avoid coming to friendlies. A man who Irish journalists love - because it keeps a good story going. Unlike Roy Keane, Steve Staunton always gave 100% to his country. It is sad but true that Keane would like Stan to lose tonight.
Not me - I hope for a good Irish win.
What will the journalists write then?
Maybe they might write about his gameplan.

Come on Ireland - 100% behind the lads

[cavan_fan]

Good god NO

But then I never want Oirland to win :)

I just want to understand this. Is their any conceivable Irish team you would support. What would have to change, the team, manager, fans, FAI?

[eirebhoy]

It's down to patriotism of course. Put it this way, if you grew up in my family it'd even be impossible not to look forward to the cricket match on Friday. :) If the world wasn't watching it probably wouldn't mean anything to me though.

[Nailer77]

Crazy Stuff is right!
The criticisim of Steve Staunton in the press has been over the top, nasty, and vindictive.
The majority of journalists in this country are more interested in maintaining their own brand than writing objectively about football.
Roy Keane - then pours petrol on things. Why not - may as well stick the boot in when a man is down. Half of the Irish nation then believe this man's crap - because Roy said it - not that there is any objective basis to it.


Thast absolute rubbish. The Cyprus and San Marino performances happened long before Keane had a chance to open his mouth so don't belittle the opinions of others with a comment as weak as that. I'm well capable of making my own mind up from what I see on the pitch and what I've seen on the pitch has been p1ss poor. I'd imagine the vast majority on here formed their opinions that way too.

[mistergreen]

My point on Roy Keane's objectivity or lack of it relates to his various opinions on David Connoll's selection, Cork biases, and such drivel.
Nobody would disagree that the performances on the pitch have been poor; however I say again - the criticism of Staunton has been over the top. Give a man a fair chance.

[craig7042]

Tempting and all as that offer is I'm going to have to pass.

Thats a relief....you know how you regret writing things sometimes....

[craig7042]

Thast absolute rubbish. The Cyprus and San Marino performances happened long before Keane had a chance to open his mouth so don't belittle the opinions of others with a comment as weak as that. I'm well capable of making my own mind up from what I see on the pitch and what I've seen on the pitch has been p1ss poor. I'd imagine the vast majority on here formed their opinions that way too.


Well....theres some of us out there who agree with that quote...
I'm not the only one.

[Nailer77]

My point on Roy Keane's objectivity or lack of it relates to his various opinions on David Connoll's selection, Cork biases, and such drivel.
Nobody would disagree that the performances on the pitch have been poor; however I say again - the criticism of Staunton has been over the top. Give a man a fair chance.

The only criticism I'm aware of thats been over the top is the stuff in the rags and its your own fault if you read them. Keane can say what he likes, I agree with some it and I think some of its muck. But you can't just say that peoples opinions are formed by what Keane says just because they don't rate Stan. I don't rate Stan, I think he's clueless, I see no consistency or idea in what he's doing, but I formed those opinions on going to games and watching the San Marino and Cyprus debacle not because Keane told me so, as far as I'm aware Keane had his mouth firmly shut at that point.

And for the record I find it a bit funny that all this warranted criticism is being compared to the carry on of our neighbours across the water. Well what I find more familiar is the blind optimism of a few on here that appears to be coming from very little evidence, something our English friends are even more adept at.

[Nailer77]

Well....theres some of us out there who agree with that quote...
I'm not the only one.


So what were Keane's clearly well know quotes after those games that were supposed to have made my mind up for me? I don't remember him saying a whole lot to be honest.

[Roadend]

Echo that. I used to be an Ireland fan. Not anymore. The treatment of Kerr by the FAI, the fans and the media was the final straw for me. If that makes me unpatriotic, so be it.

So were you a fan of Kerr then, not Ireland as such?

[BohsPartisan]

I don't see it as being a different matter. I have simply asked you how you would react if you found the team you support in the same situation that I find myself in with the team I support.

My point is that if Bohs found themselves in that position, which we did last year, I'd be in a position to try and change it. Believe me, a lot of pressure was put on the board vis a vis the Farrelly situation. We had that outlet. With Ireland and the FAI you criticise and you are censored.


I suspect, although I might be wrong, that you've never really felt represented by the national side and that as a result you're far less willing to stick with them when the going gets tough. Hell would probably freeze over before you'd stop supporting Bohs but with regard to Ireland I get the impression you were probably not that fussed in the first place.

There may be a grain of truth in that. I'll say by and large you are wrong because particularly when I was a young 'un and a teen the national team certainly did mean a lot to me. What is important to me now though is that the national team represents the sporting values I hold dear and that the players I am watching are guys who I have seen playing at club level on a regular basis, be they current ELOI players or players who have learned their trade in the ELOI. Players like Doyle and Ward. A team made up of players like that I could be passionate about no matter what the results were like, once they went out and gave their all.

[Peadar]

Anyone who shouts for the opposition in Croke Park on Wednesday night does not deserve to be there.

We're obliged to sell tickets to opposition fans.
Perhaps you should contact UEFA, to voice your opinion.

[osarusan]

We're obliged to sell tickets to opposition fans.
Perhaps you should contact UEFA, to voice your opinion.


Bloody Slovakians. Never giving Stan a chance.:D

[Offside]

A win of course... crazy to say otherwise... just a question for anyone at the last game, what songs are people singing in the crowd these days? Watching it on tele there was little or no atmosephere at the last match at all (apart from the Mexican wave)! Do people still sing the traditional Ole Ole Ole... Or are there any songs being sang at all?

[Roadend]

Give it a lash Jack

[green army]

i am supporting ireland. so its a yes.

[Raheny Red]

I'll sit on the fence and hope for a draw :D

[ccfcgirl]

yes I want Ireland to win ...

[The Legend]

I'll sit on the fence and hope for a draw :D

i think a draw is the worst possible result!

Win = back with a chance
Loss = Hopefully end of Staunton maybe even delaney.
Draw = we will continue to be f**ked for the forseable future.

[Over the post]

I'm hoping for a win naturally enough, partly because I'm excited by the team Stan has chosen (can't believe I've just said that) but also because I don't think a loss would mean we'd see the back of Stan or Delaney, unless it's a particularly embarassing one.