Trundle? why not

[youngirish]

He's as Irish as the Queen (German). He's also sh*t. Lee Trundle ffs. Leon Best was scoring more regularly in League 1 and he's only 20. I'd have him in the squad long before Lee Trundle.

Get a clue.

[eirebhoy]

Best doesn't want to play for us though.

[youngirish]

Best doesn't want to play for us though.

Since when? I thought he had decided to throw his lot in with us after going over to the dark side briefly a few years ago?

[eirebhoy]

Since when? I thought he had decided to throw his lot in with us after going over to the dark side briefly a few years ago?
I haven't seen his name in an underage squad in a couple of years now.

[tetsujin1979]

He's been playing a lot of first team football at Southampton and on loan at Yeovil, whether or not that's better than playing underage football for Ireland is up for discussion.
In Football Manager 2007, he's down as Irish, and until I see him in an England squad he'll stay that way for me

[hogey]

No. your wrong. He's been playing for Middlesex as a pro for 3 years, he didn't play for England because he wanted to be a pro, he played for England because there good enought to be at test cricket standard. Its almost identical to an irish soccer player playing for england as they stand a better chance of qualifying for a major tournament.

you also get paid for playing for england cricket.


Apologies, I underestimated your knowledge on the issue. I know Joyce was a pro for 3 years with Middlesex. The point I was trying to make was that it wouldnt be unsustainable to continue playing for Ireland as a professional player. Eoin Morgan and Niall O'Brien will go the same way aswell.

[eirebhoy]

He's been playing a lot of first team football at Southampton and on loan at Yeovil, whether or not that's better than playing underage football for Ireland is up for discussion.
In Football Manager 2007, he's down as Irish, and until I see him in an England squad he'll stay that way for me
Didn't he declare for England a few years ago? He was in their U20 squad but pulled out through injury:
http://archive.thisishampshire.net/2005/8/11/93114.html

If he still wanted to play for us he'd surely be in one of the squads.

[tetsujin1979]

If he still wanted to play for us he'd surely be in one of the squads.
He was in this squad for the Under-19's later the same year:
http://www.rte.ie/sport/2005/0418/under19.html
Can't find any reviews with a lineup though

He was in this squad for the U-21's from February 2006: http://www.rte.ie/pda/sport/2006/0220/1081353.html

Although he didn't end up playing: http://www.ireland-mad.co.uk/news/loadroll.asp?cid=ED92&id=270123

Can't find any stories about him pulling out though

Incidentally, from that U-19 squad Darren O'Dea, Joseph O'Brien, Darron Gibson, Paul McShane and Andrew Keogh have all gone on to senior squad call ups.

[galwayhoop]

Apologies, I underestimated your knowledge on the issue. I know Joyce was a pro for 3 years with Middlesex.

heard him in an interview last week. did he 'acquire' his accent after his move or did he always talk like that??

not being ignorant but i was listening to him on sky sports for about 2 mins before his name flashed up on the screen and if you told me he was born and bred in bray i wouldn't have believed you!

[Jerry The Saint]

heard him in an interview last week. did he 'acquire' his accent after his move or did he always talk like that??

not being ignorant but i was listening to him on sky sports for about 2 mins before his name flashed up on the screen and if you told me he was born and bred in bray i wouldn't have believed you!

Posh boy from Bray, don't forget - lots of people talk like him. :)

[eirebhoy]

He was in this squad for the Under-19's later the same year:
http://www.rte.ie/sport/2005/0418/under19.html
Can't find any reviews with a lineup though

He was in this squad for the U-21's from February 2006: http://www.rte.ie/pda/sport/2006/0220/1081353.html

Although he didn't end up playing: http://www.ireland-mad.co.uk/news/loadroll.asp?cid=ED92&id=270123

I didn't know that, or I most likely just forgot. :)

[livehead1]

heard him in an interview last week. did he 'acquire' his accent after his move or did he always talk like that??

not being ignorant but i was listening to him on sky sports for about 2 mins before his name flashed up on the screen and if you told me he was born and bred in bray i wouldn't have believed you!

for want of a better phrase to describe him, he seems to be public school educated, that is probably where the accent comes from.