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Philly
27/02/2007, 6:39 PM
And if they're not living beyond their means on E9k?
Their outgoing chairman - Brown - said that the would have a wage budget bigger than two-thirds of the Premier Division this year. Media speculates their budget will be 9-11k per week.
For a club with huge debts that is pretty shocking in all fairness. Even when you take away the money owed to Revenue and players, there are still many outstanding debts and Shels will still be living off whatever OK wants to throw at them, until he decides that he has waited around long enough.
I know operate at a lower level than most after paying up debts, but I'd imagine the average is around 5 or so?
I mean, just think of the crowds Division One gets.
Ours was around 6k afaik
Raheny Red
27/02/2007, 7:44 PM
RR, any idea which are loan and which are permanent?
I have no idea which ones are loan deals apart from the first three which afaik we have signed -> Tony O'Dowd, Jim Crawford, James Chambers, Mark O'Brien, Davitt Walsh, Conor Rafferty, Brian Gartland, Ciarán Ryan, Wayne Byrne, Kieran Harte, John Brophy, Aaron McEniff, James Hussey. I'm not too sure if these are even confirmed (apart from the frist 3) but what are being mentioned on various club websites!
Réiteoir
27/02/2007, 8:39 PM
tony o dowd apparently has signed as well.is there not a rule regarding the signatures of players who have played junior or intermediate football in the last six months or something?
RULE 38. REGISTRATION AS PER AGREEMENT
(a) The registration of Professionals shall be binding in accordance with the provision of Rule 36 and the termination of the agreement between Clubs and players.
A Professional may at any stage be registered for the following or subsequent seasons for his own Club, but shall not enter into any engagement with another Club in membership of this or any other National Association until 6 months before his existing engagement is terminated.
A Club or a member of a Club or any person shall not induce or attempt to induce a registered Professional player to leave the Club for which he is registered until the period of his registration has expired.
(b) No player either Amateur or Professional shall play for two Clubs during the same season without first obtaining a transfer from his original Club and League. Original shall mean the Club which the player has signed a form and first registered with a League during any one season.
Réiteoir
27/02/2007, 8:43 PM
But as O'Dowd (according to the papers) is still signed on with Malahide United - is exempt from that rule - as he is still active with a club.
As I read it - Rule 38 - iirc - deals with those who are "unattached"
What?!?
Only seeing this thread now. That is an absolute disgrace if the FAI let Shels go ahead with a budget like that and €12 million or whatever it is in debt.
Disgusting if true. Harps board and supporters have been working their balls off fundraising throughout the close season to put a good squad together capable of challenging. They are going to have a budget, effectively twice ours HANDED to them while they owe half the country money!!
I'm quickly losing whatever sympathy I had for them. Like someone else pointed out, it is as if no one has learned anything.
Still, two of our ex-players they have signed, Walsh and Harte would not have made our team this year. Been lucky to make the squad to be honest.
bohs til i die
27/02/2007, 9:09 PM
What?!?
Only seeing this thread now. That is an absolute disgrace if the FAI let Shels go ahead with a budget like that and €12 million or whatever it is in debt.
Disgusting if true. Harps board and supporters have been working their balls off fundraising throughout the close season to put a good squad together capable of challenging. They are going to have a budget, effectively twice ours HANDED to them while they owe half the country money!!
I'm quickly losing whatever sympathy I had for them. Like someone else pointed out, it is as if no one has learned anything.
Still, two of our ex-players they have signed, Walsh and Harte would not have made our team this year. Been lucky to make the squad to be honest.
Shelbourne's budget is to be underwritten by Ossie Kilkenny.
Anto McC
27/02/2007, 9:24 PM
But as O'Dowd (according to the papers) is still signed on with Malahide United - is exempt from that rule - as he is still active with a club.
As I read it - Rule 38 - iirc - deals with those who are "unattached"
There's also the fact that Shels are exempt to the rules,or so we've been told by so many people on here for the past 5 years.
Philly
27/02/2007, 9:59 PM
Shelbourne's budget is to be underwritten by Ossie Kilkenny.
Which makes it all the worse for Division One club fans.
Alot of them have cleaned up their act and sorted their finances in the past few seasons. Now Shels are thrown into the mix - a club beinh handed 9-11k p/week in wages by some businessman and who are massively in debt. It is very frustrating, I think KCFC will do the talking on the pitch on the 9th.
KildareFan
28/02/2007, 1:49 PM
Whoever told me that? I was there mate!
He signed a squad in our second year that was destined for promotion. We would have gotten promoted if he had of stayed. Then he jumped ship leaving us with a mammoth wage bill and a managers seat to fill. We appointed Hannigan (Boards mistake) and things went downhill from there.
As far as I am concerned one does not sign a Premier squad for a small club and then run off where more money is at the first opportunity. He let the club down big time. He is the sort that convinces boards he has what it takes to deliver if they make the resources available (just look at Dublin City). We as a club fell for it.
He is undoubtadly a cheque book manager.
Thankfully we are now pretty much debt free and have all the tax paid up. A fresh start for us from this season forth. Lets hope we don't appoint a journey man like him ever again - a lesson learnt.
That's one way of looking at it, or you could say that he put a squad and a team in place that should have went up only for Hannigan to come in and and mess it up.
I'd gladly settle for a "journey man" to come in and put a squad together that could challenge for promotion because John Ryan certainly won't, especially on the budget that he has.
OneRedArmy
28/02/2007, 2:16 PM
Shelbourne's budget is to be underwritten by Ossie Kilkenny.For this season only iirc.
Just postpones the inevitable another year.
Oh and in case anyone is wondering why Kilkenny's has suddenly decided to become so benevolent, all of this is cash injection out of the money Shels were to get for Tolka and the carrot for Kilkenny is that he gets his hands on the ground earlier than planned.
garyderry
28/02/2007, 3:32 PM
For this season only iirc.
Just postpones the inevitable another year.
Oh and in case anyone is wondering why Kilkenny's has suddenly decided to become so benevolent, all of this is cash injection out of the money Shels were to get for Tolka and the carrot for Kilkenny is that he gets his hands on the ground earlier than planned.
its hardly all of a sudden he has been doing in for years and one of the reasons why they are in such a mess now
OneRedArmy
28/02/2007, 4:25 PM
its hardly all of a sudden he has been doing in for years and one of the reasons why they are in such a mess nowThe deal on the table AFAIK is tied to Shels giving up their lease earlier than planned.
The previous monies paid were related to an option to buyout.
Kilkenny is clearly tightening his grip.
dublin15bohs
28/02/2007, 5:29 PM
Transfer Update
Aidan Collins has left Bohemian FC and signed for Shelbourne.
Conor Rafferty and Davitt Walsh have gone on loan to Shelbourne until July.
Chris Kingsberry has signed for Bohemian FC.
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