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Lev Yashin
21/02/2007, 9:59 AM
Anyone bought this album???
i bought it last weeknd end out it straight onto my ipod and haven't stopped lestening to it since....its fantastic

Damon Albarn has to be the most underated songwriter around at the moment...especially when oasis get a life time achievment award...for what three good albums!!!!
damon has had numorous great albums with blur two good albums with gorillaz and now this one

anyway...just buy it!!
Wolfie
21/02/2007, 12:32 PM
Anyone bought this album???
i bought it last weeknd end out it straight onto my ipod and haven't stopped lestening to it since....its fantastic

Damon Albarn has to be the most underated songwriter around at the moment...especially when oasis get a life time achievment award...for what three good albums!!!!
damon has had numorous great albums with blur two good albums with gorillaz and now this one

anyway...just buy it!!

Supposed to be quality album alright - will grab a copy at weekend.

Heard the new Kings of Leon is the business as well.
CollegeTillIDie
21/02/2007, 6:58 PM
Anyone bought this album???
i bought it last weeknd end out it straight onto my ipod and haven't stopped lestening to it since....its fantastic

Damon Albarn has to be the most underated songwriter around at the moment...especially when oasis get a life time achievment award...for what three good albums!!!!
damon has had numorous great albums with blur two good albums with gorillaz and now this one

anyway...just buy it!!

You're taking the fun out of everything / you're taking the fun out of everything :D
Lim till i die
21/02/2007, 10:18 PM
Damon Albarn has to be the most underated songwriter around at the moment...especially when oasis get a life time achievment award...for what three good albums!!!!
damon has had numorous great albums with blur two good albums with gorillaz and now this one


Gorillaz WTF?!?! :eek:

To quote the less literate Gallagher brother he's a ponce
Lev Yashin
22/02/2007, 9:56 AM
Gorillaz WTF?!?! :eek:

To quote the less literate Gallagher brother he's a ponce

first of all "the less literate gallagher"...and you have the guile to quote him..did you see him at the brits...he cant sing anymore!!

easy to dismiss gorillaz but if you listen to there abums they are very good

im not going to get into an argument because music is subjective...each to their own you know....i was a massive oasis fan and i still am but after seeing them at oxegen a few years ago and then at the brits...i just wouldn'd bother anymore with them live....liams voice is shot...years of singing about the "sunshiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine"

still great tunes! :D
Jamjar
22/02/2007, 11:20 AM
Listen to some tracks online.
http://www.thegoodthebadandthequeen.com/

Excellent stuff alright. Good to see Paul Simenon back as well.
Not wishing to add to the blur/oasis debate but I've always felt that oasis while releasing decent enough songs are alway quite predictable. Blur/Albarn at least try new stuff.
Yes, I'll definitely have to get this.
gustavo
22/02/2007, 11:25 AM
Nothing wrong with being predictable Jamjar really :)
Lim till i die
22/02/2007, 2:43 PM
easy to dismiss gorillaz but if you listen to there abums they are very good


Basically a pile of tatty B-Sides that were lying around Damons riverfront apartment since the Blur days
gustavo
22/02/2007, 2:44 PM
So by that logic , The Good the Bad and the Queen will be made up of Gorillaz B- sides.
Lim till i die
22/02/2007, 2:54 PM
So by that logic , The Good the Bad and the Queen will be made up of Gorillaz B- sides.

Ya, that's right, that's a perfectly reasonable and well thought out conclusion your after drawing there

Well done
BohsPartisan
22/02/2007, 3:13 PM
Gorillaz are fekin genius. Nothing tatty or B-Sidish about them. Albarn is Mozart to the Gallaghers' George Formby. The sheer scope of his songwriting puts him up there with the likes of Eno and Bowie IMO.

Modern life is Rubbish, Parklife, 13, Gorillaz, Demon Days and The Good the Bad and the Queen are modern British classics.
Leisure, Blur, The Great Escape,Think Tank and Mali Music are also really good albums.
Quoasis haven't done anything worthwhile in 12 years, and even then it was derivative rock n' roll.
Lim till i die
22/02/2007, 3:30 PM
Albarn is Mozart to the Gallaghers' George Formby.

I had no idea they were peers :p
anto1208
22/02/2007, 3:41 PM
I have it i must admit i havent listened to it as much as id like to have but i like what ive heard so far .

you cant compare Albarn with the oasis brothers , albarn has changed direction plenty of times now and done it very well , think tank was completly different from what blur normally did , gurrilaz again changed even the 2nd album was different from the first , and now this one and all are really good .

oasis i liked when i was 15 now i look back and think how where they so big ??? 1 good album of by the book pop rock , one ok album and the rest was pants .
gustavo
22/02/2007, 3:43 PM
Gorillaz are fekin genius. Nothing tatty or B-Sidish about them. Albarn is Mozart to the Gallaghers' George Formby. The sheer scope of his songwriting puts him up there with the likes of Eno and Bowie IMO.


Quoasis haven't done anything worthwhile in 12 years, and even then it was derivative rock n' roll.

plleassee

Blur are just as derivative as the rest of them , They owe a huge debt of gratitude to the songwriting of Ray Davies.
gustavo
22/02/2007, 3:45 PM
I have it i must admit i havent listened to it as much as id like to have but i like what ive heard so far .
oasis i liked when i was 15 now i look back and think how where they so big ??? 1 good album of by the book pop rock , one ok album and the rest was pants .

presumably you bought all the albums then in order to come to that fully formed opinion.
Lev Yashin
22/02/2007, 5:12 PM
plleassee

Blur are just as derivative as the rest of them , They owe a huge debt of gratitude to the songwriting of Ray Davies.

and damon would openly admit that..he has said the biggest thrill in his life was meeting ray davies....but there is a difference to be influenced by someone..and blatently robbing solo's or chord structures!!

hey dont get me wrong i love balls out rock and roll....but damon had always written stuff with a bit morre class than noel...

as i said before the beauty of music is it is totally subjective!!and thats why after religon and football its probably the most argued about topic!!:D
BohsPartisan
22/02/2007, 9:08 PM
Blur are just as derivative as the rest of them , They owe a huge debt of gratitude to the songwriting of Ray Davies.

What Shannonman said. For one thing the Ray Davies influence is only really evident on albums two and three (out of 7 albums!). Another thing is that Albarn takes his influences and builds upon them.
gustavo
23/02/2007, 1:43 AM
So do Oasis , Noel said he always regretted saying his big influence was Beatles cos everyone picked him up on it , said he was always influenced far more by Slade , most great Oasis tracks i know sound just like Oasis themselves rather than anything else , as Noel says they could experiment but thats not what their fanbase want,
BohsPartisan
23/02/2007, 7:55 AM
Fanbase shmanbase.
Their original fanbase wanted that. Everyone I know that was into them in the beginning including myself were bored with them by the time the third album came around.
What Noely G is really saying is that its easier to sell records if you don't artisticly challenge the music buying public. Its the difference between being an artist and a used car salesman.
gustavo
23/02/2007, 10:11 AM
artistically challenge :D
BohsPartisan
23/02/2007, 10:26 AM
artistically challenge :D

whatever :rolleyes:
Lim till i die
23/02/2007, 11:15 AM
whatever

One of oasis' catchier efforts :p
jebus
23/02/2007, 1:37 PM
Really liking the Good, the Bad and the Queen to be honest, think it's gonna be one of those albums that gets better with time as well. As for Mr.Albarn's input into British music, well I think he ranks up there with Ray Davies, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Morrissey, Joe Strummer, Mick Jones, and Jerry Dammers in documenting British life. For my moneys he has been involved in six quality albums (Modern Life, Parklife, Blur, 13, Demon Days, Good, the Bad and the Queen), five good albums (Great Escape, Think Tank, Mali Music, Gorillaz, Democrazy) and one patchy affair (Leisure).

I think the only thing that has held him back from National Treasure status in Britain is his arrogance to be honest
Lev Yashin
23/02/2007, 4:24 PM
Really liking the Good, the Bad and the Queen to be honest, think it's gonna be one of those albums that gets better with time as well. As for Mr.Albarn's input into British music, well I think he ranks up there with Ray Davies, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Morrissey, Joe Strummer, Mick Jones, and Jerry Dammers in documenting British life. For my moneys he has been involved in six quality albums (Modern Life, Parklife, Blur, 13, Demon Days, Good, the Bad and the Queen), five good albums (Great Escape, Think Tank, Mali Music, Gorillaz, Democrazy) and one patchy affair (Leisure).

I think the only thing that has held him back from National Treasure status in Britain is his arrogance to be honest

i dunno about arrogance maybe just apathy....your bang on with your other point about his imput into british music...i'd have paul weller in there too....
CollegeTillIDie
27/02/2007, 7:39 AM
Experimentation requires levels of imagination many modern musos do not possess.
Lev Yashin
27/02/2007, 8:35 AM
Experimentation requires levels of imagination many modern musos do not possess.

Totally agree, but with the ease at which record companies drop artists these days it hard to do something that would be considered experimentation...and maybe alienate a section of your fanbase...which of course would in turn lead to loss of sales and maybe being dropped...
BohsPartisan
27/02/2007, 8:38 AM
Could you imagine if Captain Beefheart and Zappa were starting out today?
Could you imagine an album like Trout Mask Replica getting made?
Lev Yashin
27/02/2007, 8:50 AM
Could you imagine if Captain Beefheart and Zappa were starting out today?
Could you imagine an album like Trout Mask Replica getting made?

I cant imagine an album with the name "trout mask replica" being made!!!!:D
jebus
27/02/2007, 3:41 PM
Could you imagine if Captain Beefheart and Zappa were starting out today?
Could you imagine an album like Trout Mask Replica getting made?

Beefheart I'll give you, but Zappa getting told he shouldn't bother with music at an American Idol audition could have saved us all a lot of grief ;)
BohsPartisan
27/02/2007, 3:50 PM
Aw come on, Ship arriving too late to save a drowning witch is a great album...cover
Lev Yashin
28/02/2007, 4:12 PM
Aw come on, Ship arriving too late to save a drowning witch is a great album...cover

im either ignorant or too young but this means nothing to me!!!!:confused:
BohsPartisan
28/02/2007, 10:46 PM
http://www.science.uva.nl/~robbert/zappa/files/jpg/Ship_Arriving_Too_Late_To_Save_A_Drowning_Witch.jp g

The Album's Wiki page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_Arriving_Too_Late_to_Save_a_Drowning_Witch)
Wolfie
01/03/2007, 1:13 PM
Really liking the Good, the Bad and the Queen to be honest, think it's gonna be one of those albums that gets better with time as well. As for Mr.Albarn's input into British music, well I think he ranks up there with Ray Davies, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Morrissey, Joe Strummer, Mick Jones, and Jerry Dammers in documenting British life. For my moneys he has been involved in six quality albums (Modern Life, Parklife, Blur, 13, Demon Days, Good, the Bad and the Queen), five good albums (Great Escape, Think Tank, Mali Music, Gorillaz, Democrazy) and one patchy affair (Leisure).

I think the only thing that has held him back from National Treasure status in Britain is his arrogance to be honest

I wouldn't under-estimate Graham Coxon's input into what made Blur such a great band. His guitar playing on all of the albums was inspired.

His last two albums were great.

Appears to be rumours that Coxon may be re-joining Albarn to record one more Blur album.

Doesn't appear to be the level of acrimony that surrounds Ian Brown and John Squire - so an original line-up Blur could still happen.
SligoBrewer
01/03/2007, 8:09 PM
Appears to be rumours that Coxon may be re-joining Albarn to record one more Blur album.
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if you read nme this week it seems to be happening all right yay!:)
BohsPartisan
02/03/2007, 7:53 AM
if you read nme this week it seems to be happening all right yay!:)

Excellent. I liked Think Tank but it didn't feel like a Blur Album.

Might be the last time we get to see them live as a unit too.
Lev Yashin
02/03/2007, 9:51 AM
Excellent. I liked Think Tank but it didn't feel like a Blur Album.

Might be the last time we get to see them live as a unit too.

the first ever gig i went to as i young man was blur in the r.d.s. supported by balck grape and supergrass.
just a great live show i remember damon climbing up the side of the stage(dont think he'd do that now) but the gig itself was just brilliant

would give an arm and a leg to see them again....
BohsPartisan
02/03/2007, 11:09 AM
blur in the r.d.s. supported by balck grape and supergrass.


Was at that myself. 'twas the day England beat Spain on Penalties in the Euro quarter final.
Wolfie
02/03/2007, 12:52 PM
I saw them a few times and they were always great gigs -

Feile 94 in Tipperary, Feile 95 in Cork (Headlined Saturday), Olympia (2004?)

The Olympia gig had a different vibe to it without Coxon's guitar. A great gig - but different to the previous Blur gigs I'd seen.

Damon has mellowed a bit since the days when he was pogo-ing around the stage like a demented lunatic as well though.

Coxon has developed into a great song writer as well so it would be interesting to see what they could produce on a final Blur album.
BohsPartisan
02/03/2007, 1:05 PM
Saw them at Feile '94 and '95, The Point '95, RDS '96, Point '97 and '99. Missed the Olympia unfortunately, would have loved to have gone. Will definitely go see them if they come back again.