21 yard line?

[SUB of the day]

According to John Delaney, the goals in Croker will be around the GAA 21 yard line.......Why?.Surely putting the Canal end posts within touching distance of the home support, with the resulting yawning gap at the hill end is the way to go.Away fans won't be happy.......so what.

[citizenerased]

yeah, but id say UEFA might have something to say, would look awful aswell....everyone knew it would happen

[paul_oshea]

can they incur flags on the grass behind the goals then on the away end? maybe away supporters might like that, but im thinking there wont be any hoarding, do it on the cheap, and not let anyone near the pitch!!

[elroy]

Ya its true that the goals will be on the 21 yard line. The gaa pitch was always gonna be much bigger that required. However, if you think about the game in stuttgart, there was a running track between us and the pitch there and still had decent views from behind the goal. It will be something equivalent in croker from the hill and canal end. So dont think it will be too bad. Im sure the fai are making a nice few quid out of big advertisements that will go between the goals and the stands.

[paul_oshea]

Im sure the fai are making a nice few quid out of big advertisements that will go between the goals and the stands.

ya it will be easier that way, and still look good. Didnt think about that, some good marketing techniques there, that will cover their 1.5 mil rent!!! But seriouslly, it makes more sense to "fcuk the foreigners" than their own fans, really though it would look worse if both goals were moved in the way and the atmosphere wouldn't be as good.

[gspain]

It is probably because I assume the GAA have their VIP box on the halfway line of the GAA pitch. Bertie and the boys will still have to have the best seats.

[elroy]

ya it will be easier that way, and still look good. Didnt think about that, some good marketing techniques there, that will cover their 1.5 mil rent!!! But seriouslly, it makes more sense to "fcuk the foreigners" than their own fans, really though it would look worse if both goals were moved in the way and the atmosphere wouldn't be as good.

It would look much worse if the pitch was centred, plus if you were near the Hill 16 end in the Cusack or Hogan stand doubt you'd be too impressed with the pitch been pushed down closer to the Canal End.

[Bluetonic]

Croke Park is designed in such a way that the pitch should be symmetrical from the centre of the Hogan/Cusack - media facilities, corporate box pricing, tv camera postions, more recently floodlighting, etc.., are all designed around on this basis.

Can't believe anyone would even consider to have it off centre. Even in Lansdowne though the distances were smaller they were proportional, however there was never a call to have the pitch off centre to the south terrace away from the majority of away fans in the north terrace.

It appears some people have been a bit naive and opted for canal tickets and are now up in arms.

[reder]

Well for starters, many like me picked the end seats simply because the main stand lower seats were way too expensive and from comments I read here the view from the upper tier is poor unless you are at the front. I dont expect a wonderful view in the end.

There is no way on earth that fans will be allowed to put flags or banners on the pitch behind the goals. The only people who will be up in arms are the people who payed full whack for lower tier seats are will be seated outside the bounds of the pitch (between the endline of the football pitch and where the endline of the GAA pitch would be).

[galwayhoop]

not even in the gate and the moaning is 90!

who didn't realise that the pitch dimensions were so different?? it shows that if you want an 'intimate' soccer stadium it can not be a GAA stadium!

this should also show some people how ridiculous the situation re: tallaght and the GAA is!!

[noby]

reder, I have, on different occasions, sat in all three tiers, in varying positions, and each one gives fantastic views.

[galwayhoop]

reder, I have, on different occasions, sat in all three tiers, in varying positions, and each one gives fantastic views.

your right noby. i have too and if you can see the ball and play in 'small ball' then soccer shouldn't be too difficult

[NeilMcD]

The only tickets I though were not great at Croke Park where the lower tier Canal as the netting ruined the view and due to the nature of GAA you really did not get a good view of the game. I would rather be higher up to be honest as you see the pattern of play much better.

[Schumi]

The only tickets I though were not great at Croke Park where the lower tier Canal as the netting ruined the view

I presume there won't be netting there for football.

[NeilMcD]

Yeah I know that. I was just speaking about my time when I was there for the GAA games.

[elroy]

Have been almost in every section in croker except the hill and the view throughout is pretty good. Although for hurling the upper tiers arent the greatest, no such problems should arise for us anyways.

Either way, its better facilities etc and its almost gonna be twice the capacity of LR so we should lift the roof off the place.

[Kingdom]

I presume there won't be netting there for football.

Wouldn't be so sure about that. When there is no matches on in the stadium the nets at the Davin Stand are just drawn across. So if that happens in the soccer the people at turn of the Davin and Cusack stands would have an obsticle in their way! I'm sure there are nets behind the goals in other stadia across Europe, the Nou Camp is one I think?

[Superhoops]

Croke Park is designed in such a way that the pitch should be symmetrical from the centre of the Hogan/Cusack - media facilities, corporate box pricing, tv camera postions, more recently floodlighting, etc.., are all designed around on this basis.

Can't believe anyone would even consider to have it off centre. Even in Lansdowne though the distances were smaller they were proportional, however there was never a call to have the pitch off centre to the south terrace away from the majority of away fans in the north terrace.

It appears some people have been a bit naive and opted for canal tickets and are now up in arms.

Hope nobody on this forum were that naive. This was discussed here back in August when discussing the singing section, well before the ticket application process.


With the Hill being designated for away fans, surely the Canal End is the obvious location.Having a roof and four decks of seating, it would be an incredible sight.Given the dimensions of a GAA pitch V its football equivalent, I suggest the goal at the Canal End be placed as close as possible to the fans, hence leaving a yawning prairie between the away fans and goal at the Hill end.


Don't think that is going to happen, because the soccer pitch is about 40 metres shorter than the GAA pitch, which would mean that too many of the seats, including the premium level seats at the Hill end of the Hogan and Cusack would be well beyond the goal line.

[NeilMcD]

Gaelic Football Pitch

The field of play for Gaelic games is rectangular and its dimensions are as follows:

* Length - 130m minimum to 145m maximum
* Width - 80m minimum to 90m maximum

Football Pitch

International Matches

Length: minimum 100 m (110 yds) maximum 110 m (120 yds)

Width: minimum 64 m (70 yds) maximum 75 m (80 yds)