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I'm working in the best interests of Shels
Two cent with. . . Ollie Byrne
NO point in wasting time, the bottom line is this. Shelbourne FC had a cash-flow problem. But the club also had an agreement, an understanding, and ultimately a legal relationship with some companies regarding the re-zoning, the sale and destination of the proceeds regarding Tolka Park. That has to happen by 2010 and the relocation of Shelbourne FC will be to an area that is fully acceptable to all involved with the club and it must be in the best interests of the club.
It's been a tough time for all concerned and I know people will say football should be run like a business, but it can't be. Business principles can apply but this is not like a manufacturing industry where I go out, make 1,000 footballs and know what price to sell them at in order to cover my costs and make a profit. Football depends on success on the field and you don't know what will happen.
Last year was a disaster for the Eircom League as regards attendances. When budgets were made out at the start of the year nobody was to know that. I do apologise to the players and the situation they have been put in because of that. But I would like to say that I am doing everything in my power to rectify the situation and since I went on with Joe Duffy on Liveline last week, a number of people have come forward and offered their support and guidance from a business point of view and it is all greatly appreciated. So as it stands, every effort will be made to keep as many of the players from last season's squad but at the same time the budget will be cut by between Euro750,000 and Euro1m.
See here for full story. (http://forum.shelbournefc.ie/chat/viewtopic.php?t=7666)
I'm working in the best interests of Shels
Two cent with. . . Ollie Byrne
NO point in wasting time, the bottom line is this. Shelbourne FC had a cash-flow problem. But the club also had an agreement, an understanding, and ultimately a legal relationship with some companies regarding the re-zoning, the sale and destination of the proceeds regarding Tolka Park. That has to happen by 2010 and the relocation of Shelbourne FC will be to an area that is fully acceptable to all involved with the club and it must be in the best interests of the club.
It's been a tough time for all concerned and I know people will say football should be run like a business, but it can't be. Business principles can apply but this is not like a manufacturing industry where I go out, make 1,000 footballs and know what price to sell them at in order to cover my costs and make a profit. Football depends on success on the field and you don't know what will happen.
Last year was a disaster for the Eircom League as regards attendances. When budgets were made out at the start of the year nobody was to know that. I do apologise to the players and the situation they have been put in because of that. But I would like to say that I am doing everything in my power to rectify the situation and since I went on with Joe Duffy on Liveline last week, a number of people have come forward and offered their support and guidance from a business point of view and it is all greatly appreciated. So as it stands, every effort will be made to keep as many of the players from last season's squad but at the same time the budget will be cut by between Euro750,000 and Euro1m.
If thats how much they have to cut then god only knows how much they actually fork out over the year
sonofstan
14/01/2007, 7:54 PM
Quote from later on in the piece; "Martin Luther King said he had a dream and that it wasn't realised till after he was dead" so,er, when did he say this? leaving aside complete the hubris of Ollie comparing himself to MLK
BohsFans
14/01/2007, 8:09 PM
If thats how much they have to cut then god only knows how much they actually fork out over the year
There was also a big article on Ollie in Saturdays indo and the reporter stated that the Shels wage bill was over €2m pa! :eek:
Even with a realistic budget, how could you cover that + expenses?
He just stated that he'd refuse to sell the club if it meant him leaving completely, effectively saying that he will be involved one way or another and is not willing to leave to secure the clubs future. Jeez that sure sounds like someone who has the clubs best interests at heart:rolleyes:
There was also a big article on Ollie in Saturdays indo and the reporter stated that the Shels wage bill was over €2m pa! :eek:
Even with a realistic budget, how could you cover that + expenses?
They obviously budget for Shels to win the leagye every season. A major gamble that has backfired
But, they've won the league three out of the last four seasons, they've been in europe every season for the last, how many years ? So they've had all the success that a club could reasonably expect, and it still wasn't enough. Which shows how crazy their spending was. It's just not true for Byrne to claim that he budgeted for success, and it was a gamble which backfired. Unless he's claiming he budgeted for Champions league group stages every season, which is like trying to go from crawling to flying. Madness.
pineapple stu
14/01/2007, 9:34 PM
Quote from later on in the piece; "Martin Luther King said he had a dream and that it wasn't realised till after he was dead" so,er, when did he say this?
Are you seriously asking "When did Martin Luther King say 'I have a dream'"?
Last year was a disaster for the Eircom League as regards attendances. When budgets were made out at the start of the year nobody was to know that.
Like last season was a one-off for Shels.:rolleyes:
Self-pitying drivel from a person who can't accept that he's about the sole problem at Shels.
Poor Student
14/01/2007, 9:36 PM
Are you seriously asking "When did Martin Luther King say 'I have a dream'"?
No, he's asking when he said that he hadn't realised it until after he was dead?
dcfcsteve
14/01/2007, 9:41 PM
I see Ollie's up to the old antics of blaming Summer football for something that didn't actually happen.... :rolleyes:
"Last year was a disaster for the Eircom League as regards attendances".
Was it ? Was it really "a disaster" ? Or were attendances just down a bit on the overall average, whilst up at most individual clubs ? What's the opposite of "a disaster" : a spectacular ? If there is the same percentage increase in attendances in 2007 as there was decrease in 2006, would that amount to 'a spectacular increse regards attendance'.... :o
Good to see Olly happy to damage the image of the league and completely misrepresent facts in order to support and justify his own shambolic views and actions.
The man has even less credibility by the day....
pineapple stu
14/01/2007, 9:42 PM
Ollie didn't say that Martin Luther King said that bit. But it is true that his dream - such as it has come true - wasn't realised until after he was dead.
sonofstan has actually misquoted the piece - there's an extra "it" after the that which changed the whole meaning.
SligoBrewer
14/01/2007, 9:47 PM
Ollie Byrne in the Turbine
aww was dissapointed when i found out it was typo!:(
i thought he had been taken care of by ryanair..:D
anyways..ollie crying for sympathy doesn't wash with me..all he is a dictator..
sonofstan
14/01/2007, 10:03 PM
Ollie didn't say that Martin Luther King said that bit. But it is true that his dream - such as it has come true - wasn't realised until after he was dead.
sonofstan has actually misquoted the piece - there's an extra "it" after the that which changed the whole meaning.
Martin Luther King said he had a dream and that wasn't realised until after he was dead'
That's the quote as it appears; obviously it was ambiguous and I was attempting to be funny; what's funnier is that Ollie thinks his dream about Shels is somehow up there with MLK's in the visionary stakes.
pineapple stu
14/01/2007, 10:06 PM
We'll have to work on your sense of humour so! ;)
dcfcsteve
14/01/2007, 10:19 PM
Ollie does indeed have a dream.
Sadly - it's not in any way grounded or linked into reality.....
Ollie does indeed have a dream.
Sadly - it's not in any way grounded or linked into reality.....
He's not the first and won't be the last. While he's the most extreme example so far I think a lot of clubs could provide examples of people who've brought their club close to the edge. I think speaking of Ollie as if he's some sort of entirely exceptional case is wrong, as we've seen and probably will see again the same sort of dream chasing feck up clubs in this league over and over again.
I see Ollie's up to the old antics of blaming Summer football for something that didn't actually happen.... :rolleyes:
Did he blame summer football in the full article or just say attendances were down?
Poor Student
15/01/2007, 8:45 AM
Ollie does indeed have a dream.
Sadly - it's not in any way grounded or linked into reality.....
I've found myself saying the same thing about your own chairman.
OneRedArmy
15/01/2007, 9:47 AM
Am I the only one who found the title of the weekly column Ollie spouted his verbal diahorrea in both highly amusing and accurate given the content:
"My two cents"
Which is probably about what he's got left.
OneRedArmy
15/01/2007, 9:49 AM
I've found myself saying the same thing about your own chairman.What has Hugh McDaid said to give this impression?
Or would you possibly be incorrectly referring to an ex-chairman?
Poor Student
15/01/2007, 11:02 AM
What has Hugh McDaid said to give this impression?
Or would you possibly be incorrectly referring to an ex-chairman?
What's Roddy's role these days?
dcfcsteve
15/01/2007, 11:33 AM
I've found myself saying the same thing about your own chairman.
PS - If you're going to lie awake at night tossing and turning under the weight of a feeble little grudge, at least make it an up-to-date one...... :o
OneRedArmy
15/01/2007, 11:59 AM
What's Roddy's role these days?Commercial Manager or Chief Executive, have seen references to both. Hasn't been Chairman for at least 2 years.
CharlesThompson
15/01/2007, 12:05 PM
Is anybody else getting sick and tired of reading about Oily?
OneRedArmy
15/01/2007, 12:13 PM
Is anybody else getting sick and tired of reading about Oily?He's spent the last fortnight in a whirlwind tour of any media outlet that will have him, trying to drum up any interest in Shels plight that might persuade some newly enriched guillible son of the Celtic Tiger to write him a blank cheque. Even his admissions of guilt were straight out of the "any publicity is good publicity" approach to PR.
Unfortunately/fortunately it would appear nobody really cares.
dcfcsteve
15/01/2007, 12:35 PM
He's spent the last fortnight in a whirlwind tour of any media outlet that will have him, trying to drum up any interest in Shels plight that might persuade some newly enriched guillible son of the Celtic Tiger to write him a blank cheque. Even his admissions of guilt were straight out of the "any publicity is good publicity" approach to PR.
Unfortunately/fortunately it would appear nobody really cares.
I'd say that was probably his plan alright, but it's backfired badly.
Shels is a badly wounded animal amongst what is considered an endangered species (Eircom League clubs). Looking for investors when you're on a high and have a positive story to sell is one thing. Going out with the begging bowl when you're on your last legs and your reputation is shot to pieces is just too little too late. No right minded investor would put anything into the mess that Shels are at the moment. And any that did would do it at a ridiculously low fire-sale price. Either way, Ollie's desperation is pungent and will see Shels being sold short.
The question is, why didn't he make such a concerted effort when the club was on a high and he'd good news to sell, rather than bad...?
I see Ollie's up to the old antics of blaming Summer football for something that didn't actually happen.... :rolleyes:
"Last year was a disaster for the Eircom League as regards attendances".
Would be interesting to see how bad Shels attendances would be if the DID NOT WIN the league...
:rolleyes:
CollegeTillIDie
15/01/2007, 2:04 PM
Am I the only one who found the title of the weekly column Ollie spouted his verbal diahorrea in both highly amusing and accurate given the content:
"My two cents"
Which is probably about what he's got left.
If he still had two cents left over with all his debts paid he'd be solvent !:D
pineapple stu
15/01/2007, 5:25 PM
Would be interesting to see how bad Shels attendances would be if the DID NOT WIN the league...
:rolleyes:
You'll find out this season.
Just go into the transfer thread and look at the amount of players that have left and who they are. Basically they have no squad left.
On another note stu, well spotted that the bookies were asleep the other day regarding the setanta cup group betting. got cork 6/4 on boyles.. they have changed now allright..
nice one man.. i dont even have to buy you a pint! glory be to the internet!
BohDiddley
15/01/2007, 6:24 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but the best way to dispel it is to ask the question: what is Ossie Kilkenny's interest in Shels and/or Tolka?
Schumi
15/01/2007, 8:53 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but the best way to dispel it is to ask the question: what is Ossie Kilkenny's interest in Shels and/or Tolka?Ollie sold him first option (I think that's the phrase) on Tolka. Kilkenny will buy the lease off Ollie when the land is rezoned and Shels are in Morton (or wherever) and build on it. He's forwarded some of the money that will be due to Shels, funding Ollie's recent spending, but has stopped recently causing the current money woes.
That's my understanding of the situation anyway, no doubt other posters are better informed.
OneRedArmy
15/01/2007, 9:04 PM
Excuse my ignorance, but the best way to dispel it is to ask the question: what is Ossie Kilkenny's interest in Shels and/or Tolka?The love of the game.............:D
pineapple stu
15/01/2007, 9:58 PM
nice one man.. i dont even have to buy you a pint!
Oy! Where'd you get that from?!:p
Student Mullet
16/01/2007, 4:30 AM
Originally Posted by Poor Student
I've found myself saying the same thing about your own chairman.PS - If you're going to lie awake at night tossing and turning under the weight of a feeble little grudge, at least make it an up-to-date one...... :oIf mentioning something once or twice on an internet site constituted an obsession, the men in white coats would have taken you away a long time ago.
Patrick Dunne
16/01/2007, 7:41 AM
Only in good ol' Eire could the chairman of the nationa sports council own
the principal football stadium in the country and plan to "develop" it :mad:
Poor Student
16/01/2007, 9:53 AM
PS - If you're going to lie awake at night tossing and turning under the weight of a feeble little grudge, at least make it an up-to-date one...... :o
....................?
dcfcsteve
16/01/2007, 11:09 AM
If mentioning something once or twice on an internet site constituted an obsession..
Once or twice on an internet site ?? Once or twice a month maybe....! :o
...the men in white coats would have taken you away a long time ago.
They rang ahead to say they were still frantically looking for you in the Dublin area....... :D
dcfcsteve
16/01/2007, 11:11 AM
....................?
The ongoing UCD obsession with Jim Roddy - who hasn't even been our Chairman for years now.... :o
Poor Student
16/01/2007, 12:52 PM
The ongoing UCD obsession with Jim Roddy - who hasn't even been our Chairman for years now.... :o
I have an ongoing obsession with him? Are you merging me with Pineapple or something?:confused:
Was the typo in this thread title deliberate...? :cool:
Schumi
16/01/2007, 1:06 PM
Was the typo in this thread title deliberate...? :cool:
Turbine? I assume so, fairly widely used name for the Tribune.
pineapple stu
16/01/2007, 6:50 PM
The ongoing UCD obsession with Jim Roddy - who hasn't even been our Chairman for years now.... :o
Yup, lots and lots and lots we go on about him here alright. :rolleyes:
Was the typo in this thread title deliberate...? :cool:
Indeed. :)
dcfcsteve
16/01/2007, 11:27 PM
Yup, lots and lots and lots we go on about him here alright. :rolleyes:
This thread being yet another case in-point........
pineapple stu
17/01/2007, 5:42 PM
By that logic, it's also a case point in your obsession about us having an obsession with Roddy.
Student Mullet
17/01/2007, 5:49 PM
By that logic, it's also a case point in your obsession about us having an obsession with Roddy.And so on and so on .............
dcfcsteve
18/01/2007, 9:56 AM
By that logic, it's also a case point in your obsession about us having an obsession with Roddy.
Childish though that statement clearly is, I can live with the double truth in it. Can you ?
At least we're all open and in agreement now about the UCD fan's hard-on for Roddy. Step 1 in the rehabilitation process....
Upwards and onwards people....
Student Mullet
18/01/2007, 10:08 AM
Childish though that statement clearly is, I can live with the double truth in it. Can you ?
At least we're all open and in agreement now about the UCD fan's hard-on for Roddy. Step 1 in the rehabilitation process....
Upwards and onwards people....By the same logic, have you a hard-on for Pineapple?
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