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James
19/11/2002, 9:10 PM
To Peter Ryan
Éanna Buckley
Terry Kelly
Chris Rock
Bryan Hammond

Dear Viewer,

Thank you for your correspondence regarding RTE's lack of recent coverage
of domestic football and apologies for taking so long to respond.

RTE's annual investment into football in Ireland had grown to almost
€1,750,000 (including non-exclusive International rights) when, to our
surprise, the FAI decided to change their broadcast arrangements without
reference to RTE. The FAI reported that they had secured €1,850,000 per
year from Sky (including exclusive international rights) and that they
would now have a broadcast partner who "showed a real appetite" for the
domestic game. RTE took this to mean that, between Sky and TV3, the
domestic game would be covered at least as well as had been the case
under the RTE/FAI agreement.

When further information regarding the new agreement was made public RTE
challenged the FAI's assertion that the domestic game would be
unaffected.
We reminded them of the scale of our investment and of the way we had
been working with them to develop the marketing of the domestic game. In
particular we pointed out the 25 outside broadcasts per year that we had
been deploying and the dedicated Sunday Sports programme and Soccer Show
programmes that we had been investing in over the course of the contract.

In a formal response on August 19th, the General Secretary wrote that
"...RTÉ were so far behind the other broadcasters.....for both domestic
and international football". He added "We have achieved a substantial
increase in rights fees without any diminution in coverage".

Although domestic football was struggling to justify prime-time broadcast
(with an average live match share of just 11% on Friday evenings) RTE had
planned to continue our investment in domestic football until a) All Home
International matches were assigned exclusively to BskyB and b) RTE was
formally told that the domestic coverage was going to be better without
RTE.

Of course we were disappointed to lose the FAI contract and, yes, we were
sad at the manner in which our long relationship had come to an end.
However we had to accept that we had been out manoevred by Sky, if not
significantly out-bid, and that the FAI had secured a better overall
deal for themselves. Or so we thought. We still had much work to do on
other major contracts such as Six Nations Rugby, Champions League, Away
Euro 2004 Soccer Internationals and many others so we turned our
attention to these and other matters.

We were genuinely astonished to discover that, contrary to their earlier
repeated assertions, the FAI had no agreement in respect of the FAI Cup
and, further, that they were claiming that they had scheduled matches "to
suit RTE" when we had not been party to any such discussion.

Our agreement with the SPL had been intended to compliment coverage of
the domestic game on the other channels rather than to compete with it.
Long before our SPL deal had been concluded, BBC Network had announced
that they would be broadcasting Celtic v Rangers live. I took a telephone
call from one disgruntled fan asking why RTE had asked for the FAI Cup
semi-final to start at the same time as the BBC's live coverage of the
Old Firm. He wanted to watch both.

RTE had reassigned its budgetary and resource provisions when the FAI
assured us that they were so well covered. We considered that the
domestic game had been reasonably well represented in our schedules and
that, if another broadcaster(s) would increase that level of coverage,
then the domestic game would do okay.
You might disagree with this but, in percentage terms, our spend went way
beyond our return by in relation to any other comparable property.

We covered the FAI Cup Final (the second FAI Cup final this year) at an
unpredicted cost of over €25,000 to RTE and we are in discussions with
the FAI regarding what level of coverage we can offer into the future.
RTE has informed the FAI that we wish to broadcast the Cup going forward
and we would hope to reach some agreement with them over the coming
months. We understand that the FAI has more pressing matters to attend to
in the shorter term.

I am sorry that you feel aggrieved that RTE let you down or that we were
deliberately "snubbing" the FAI or any section of our audience. That is
certainly not our intention and would run counter to our stated policy of
serving our viewers.

However there are many soccer fans in Ireland who are not interested in
the domestic game and we make no apology for securing other relevant live
football rights, although I must accept that British football is not
necessarily the best football in the world (Bryan)! The absence of Irish
football was not of our making and is a matter of genuine regret.

I hope I have addressed the various points raised in your respective
correspondence and that you will be able to enjoy the very many soccer
and other sports properties that we do have in our schedules over the
coming years.

Yours sincerely,

Niall Cogley
Head of TV Sport


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taken from jw's messagebaord from Chris Rock

pete
20/11/2002, 9:41 AM
I feel you honoured, at last i get some value for my recently paid tv licence ;)

I've only sent a few mails to RTE over say the last year but interestingly they replied to my old mail address (redirected to existing one).......maybe they keeping files on us :eek:

btw since the treply has been posted ye might as well see the mail in sent RTE the other week...decide yourself whether the questions are answered....



To whom it concerns,

I continue to be confused by the almost complete lack of irish football coverage on RTE;
- no underage internationals,
- 1 live FAI Cup game this season which was the final (which your own viewing figures show is not a charity case - top 10 most watched programmes on Network 2 that week)
- No live eircom league matches this season while RTE had the exclusive rights earlier in the season.

On the other hand since the summer RTE has been shamefully been obsessed with retaining the senior international matches tv rights.

Do I not pay for a tv licence for public service broadcasting through the RTE schedule yet I do not see any whatsoever in irish football recently.

My questions are;
1) How can RTE feel aggrieved that the FAI not sell them the home senior international tv rights for 1.6million while at the same time offering the IRFU 3million for a similiar tv package?

2) Why does RTE give so much coverage to Mr. Alan Hunter as if he was the voice of the irish football supporter? I know there may be no real "leader of supporters" available but Mr. Hunters Irish Football Supporters Association is a figment of his imagination, has no members (people who signed up to a travel club 30 years doesn't really count) & has no mandate whatsoever. I have not heard anybody in the irish football community who can contradict my view yet. If you are aware of conflicting information on the IFSA i would be delighted to hear it.....

Schumi
20/11/2002, 10:31 AM
Much as I think RTE's coverage was well below par when they had the rights, the FAI seem to have fúcked up this year's Cup semi finals rather than RTE. They didn't do a deal for coverage of the cup and seemed to just assume it would sort itself out.

pete
20/11/2002, 10:52 AM
We covered the FAI Cup Final (the second FAI Cup final this year) at an unpredicted cost of 25,000 to RTE

If i understand that correctly its E25,000 for 173,000 viewers or 14c per viewer?

:confused:

RTE are the past at this stage anyway...

patsh
20/11/2002, 1:22 PM
I think you are being a bit harsh on RTE. They acted as any organisation would, to try to get product as cheaply as possible.
It is not up to them to pump money into soccer here. The FAI as you well know are a bunch of muppets who are incapable of getting anything right.
That email seems to say that there was only €100,000 of a difference between Sky and themselves, yet they were not aware that Sky was bidding. If they were, would the offers have gone up?
I would think so, and they might have got €2 million for the rights.

On the other hand, RTE did seem to think that only themsleves were interested, so it serves them right.

pete
20/11/2002, 1:52 PM
Originally posted by oddboy
I think you are being a bit harsh on RTE. They acted as any organisation would, to try to get product as cheaply as possible.
It is not up to them to pump money into soccer here.

I'd agree with you to an extent but my main gripe with RTE has been their behaviour since they lost out to Sky Sports. As a state broadcaster in receipt of tv licence revenue IMO they have done themselves no favours for the future...

btw on a wider note i think in the long term RTE are screwed until they can show exactely what public service programmes on tv or radio the tv licence subsidises - without that i don;t think they'll ever get the tv licence increase they need...

Éanna
24/11/2002, 5:48 PM
Originally posted by oddboy
That email seems to say that there was only €100,000 of a difference between Sky and themselves, yet they were not aware that Sky was bidding. If they were, would the offers have gone up?
I wouldn´t believe that for a minute

The Money Man
25/11/2002, 9:31 AM
Originally posted by oddboy

That email seems to say that there was only €100,000 of a difference between Sky and themselves, yet they were not aware that Sky was bidding. If they were, would the offers have gone up?


Maybe and maybe not - but at least they would have had the opportunity. The FAI's stated position is that they wanted to maximise revenue in order to develop the game. If they genuinely wanted to maximise revenue, why didnt they keep all parties informed of the bidding position? Why would any broadcaster improve their offer if they thought they were the only bidder!?! Although I wouldn't try to defend RTE, I would suggest that they got shafted by the FAI on this occasion.

pete
25/11/2002, 9:33 AM
Only spotted that now. :rolleyes:

I think RTE like to include the cost of broadcasting games into their figures + they can hardly call it an investment in irish football anymore than buying friends is an investment in Warner brothers.