I Million Bill May Spell the End For Shels

[TommyT]

Headline in tomorrows Indo. Saw a bloke reading a mock up of the page on the bus home. Apparently the bars, directors rooms etc are ******ed and they've lost their paperwork. Also the floodlights MIGHT be ****ed and the stand's structures need to be checked.

They can't play at Tolks in the near future apparently.

[Éanna]

I thought they were insured- thats what I heard on the news anyway

[pete]

Unreal picture on the front page of the IT sports section on saturday.

Since the bar is below the stand & water looked like 4-5 feet deep who seem that the bar would be completel;y ruined.

I'm not sure if insurance covers flooding but if the state is compensating peoples private homes then shels will get some compo too. Probably doesn't make mean they'll be able to play in tolka any sooner though....

[fosterdollar]

Originally posted by Éanna
I thought they were insured- thats what I heard on the news anyway

and insured heavily too - supposedly

[Jaime]

They probably are insured but it will be difficult for them to get insured against this in future, who will touch them?

[Éanna]

Originally posted by Jaime
They probably are insured but it will be difficult for them to get insured against this in future, who will touch them?
I dunno, I mean they haven´t been flooded like this before, so what odds it will happen again? I imagine they´ll be able to get insurance alright- maybe cost them a fair bit more though.


* What odds they´ll take the insurance money, sell tolka and merge with Dublin City? :eek:

[mouldymurphy]

there is a piece on soccercentral about it too lazy to get the exact address

[Éanna]

Originally posted by mouldymurphy
there is a piece on soccercentral about it too lazy to get the exact address here (http://www.soccercentral.ie/viewstory.asp?id=8496&mainheading=Eircom&viewstory=yes)

But here (http://www.soccercentral.ie/viewstory.asp?id=8471&mainheading=Eircom&viewstory=yes) they´re quoting Byrne Laden as saying Shels are covered for it :confused:

[UCD_4_Life]

I'd doubt they'll go under, even if they only bring in E250,000 in insurance they could just sell someone like Wes Houlihan (his value will go way up if he plays for Ireland) for at least E500,000.

[Macy]

Eh? Whats to stop the fookers from playing on a weekend afternoon if the floodlights are knackered???? Suppose that would be too easy for oily and he'd rather act the big martyr.....

$h€l$ just back to being Shels anyone? ;)

[pete]

Originally posted by Macy
Eh? Whats to stop the fookers from playing on a weekend afternoon if the floodlights are knackered???? Suppose that would be too easy for oily and he'd rather act the big martyr.....


I think Ollie was quoted with some massive bill to fix the floodlights when all that would need replacing is the wiring at ground level & those kinda transformer boxes at each pole. The lights being at the top of big poles will be fine as will the poles themselves.

The biggest worry for shels may be any possible structural damage to the stands. I'd stuill be surprised if shels not playing there again by the end of the year.

[fosterdollar]

Originally posted by pete


I think Ollie was quoted with some massive bill to fix the floodlights when all that would need replacing is the wiring at ground level & those kinda transformer boxes at each pole. The lights being at the top of big poles will be fine as will the poles themselves.


They do cost a fortune though, prob as much as the lamps themselves.

Byrne was being a right Bollicks last nite on TV3 news saying that this could very well spell the end of $hel$. Totally over the top and only said it to make him look better when he 'fixes' it.

[Schumi]

Originally posted by Macy
$h€l$ just back to being Shels anyone? ;)

:D

[Éanna]

Originally posted by Macy
$h€l$ just back to being Shels anyone? ;)

Yup! And they wonder why everyone hates them :rolleyes:

[Shed End John]

Originally posted by Jaime
They probably are insured but it will be difficult for them to get insured against this in future, who will touch them?

Exactly. Either that or their brokers will hit them with a 100%+ increase in their premium. Can't say I like $hels, but, I do pity their predicament and feel it would be an awful shame if the matter was anything more than a massive setback for them.

Murphy Out Now!!!

[Macy]

Originally posted by Shed End John
Can't say I like $hels, but, I do pity their predicament and feel it would be an awful shame if the matter was anything more than a massive setback for them.

Can't agree, and no Oily can only be good for the league....

[Shed End John]

So you like $hel$, that's your problem.:)
I'm just saying that it wouldn't be good for the eL if one of the top clubs in it went bankrupt.

Murphy Out Now!!!

[pete]

I'd say last weeks floods also seriously reduced the value of the Tolka property if $hel$ ever wanted to sell up & move to a green field site in North Dublin.

[Shed End John]

Originally posted by pete
I'd say last weeks floods also seriously reduced the value of the Tolka property if $hel$ ever wanted to sell up & move to a green field site in North Dublin.

Definitely, unless some SERIOUS repair/reconstruction work is undertaken. That, though, is liable to be extremely costly in itself.

Murphy Out Now!!!

[Xlex]

It is now common perception that the main reason we are getting flash flooding in Dublin is because of property devolpment. Natural river basins are now concrete and tarmac. When flooding occurs the natural water retention is reduced and the water flows straight into the rivers such as the Tolka... I don't think Planning permission would be granted as easily along such shores seeing as the likes of Bertie is getting grief... Green areas are no longer going to be just built on as easily as in the past...

Lucan was the last area I'm aware of that was effected by such flooding...

[pete]

Originally posted by Xlex
It is now common perception that the main reason we are getting flash flooding in Dublin is because of property devolpment. Natural river basins are now concrete and tarmac. When flooding occurs the natural water retention is reduced and the water flows straight into the rivers such as the Tolka... I don't think Planning permission would be granted as easily along such shores seeing as the likes of Bertie is getting grief... Green areas are no longer going to be just built on as easily as in the past...

Lucan was the last area I'm aware of that was effected by such flooding...

But dublin is a city & as such you generally don't see too many flood plain fields in the middle of cities. Theres no reason why with a proper infrastructure city centre flash flooding couldn't be completely eliminated as it was only a few inches of rain which isn't that unusual here.

I have suggestions that the reason the tolka flooded was cos the river was badly in need of dregging due to clogging around the bridges which in turn made the river rise?

Either way if Ollie had any thoughts of seeling tolka for apartment development he may as well forget about it for a good few years.

[Xlex]

even in isolated areas around river basins natural water flow didn't always directly spill into the river system, as building and devolpment increased in the last few years any extra water is now funnelled into the river systems... I'm aware of the dredging issue but the addition of any sort of devolpment would be severely fought against and anyone living along that stretch of tolka is going to wonder where the extra water would have went if it couldn't have gone into Tolka Pk.... dredging itself won't appease locals...