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[GavinZac]

Not vastly different squads , plus by then half the season will be over :rolleyes:

i wouldnt bother arguing, this is the member who thinks FIFA should make bringing the ball to the corner of the pitch a bookable foul.

[The Sheliban]

1) Shels
2) Drogs
3) UCD
4) Derry
5) Cork
6) Bohs
7) Galway
8) Pats
9) Sligo
10) Rovers
11) Longford
12) Bray

Shels still have the nucleus of a very good team. Derry will be in transition. Cork haven't strengthened enough. Possibly could be the tightest title race in a long time with a lot of teams still in at the end.

[lofty9]

Derry will be in transition.
:confused:

Why? Because we have brought in a new manager? We expect to win the league this year. Last year we expected to challenge. We have got rid of a few very average squad footballers and I'm sure Fenlon is going to replace them with quality. On top of that we have a very young squad who have had the experience of losing the league on the last day of the season 2 years on a trot. They want to win it big time this year. So do the fans, expectation is high, our limit of 1800 season tickets sold.

Drogheda should be up there but I doubt Doolin is the man to win the league for them.

[Red&White Rover]

Derry
Drogheda
Bohs
Cork
St. Pats
Shels
UCD
Shams
Sligo
Longford
Galway
Bray

is how I see it at this moment in time...

I have visions of Connor blowing a lot of Bohs money on failings from England & The North...Paul Brown anyone?

[SligoBrewer]

Derry
Drogheda
Bohs
Cork
St. Pats
Shels
UCD
Shams
Sligo
Longford
Galway
Bray

is how I see it at this moment in time...

I have visions of Connor blowing a lot of Bohs money on failings from England & The North...Paul Brown anyone?

bryan tosh?;)

[Red&White Rover]

bryan tosh?;)

Genius...just too big for us...

[monkey magic]

GUFC along with every other team will finish above Longford....and you know it.

galway, as it stands, are the ONLY team that might finish below us...

look, you've got into the premier, fine, but ffs get rid of the attutide that your gonna win the champions league in five years:rolleyes:

FACT is galway at present have a WEAKER squad then that which finished third in the first division.

[SligoBrewer]

galway, as it stands, are the ONLY team that might finish below us...

look, you've got into the premier, fine, but ffs get rid of the attutide that your gonna win the champions league in five years:rolleyes:

FACT is galway at present have a WEAKER squad then that which finished third in the first division.
but if they keep adding to it the way that they are doing atm. i could easily see them doing a 'sligo rovers' next season

[Martinho II]

we are in for a very poor season...

Derry
Drogheda
Bohs
St. Pats
Cork
Shams
UCD
Shels
Bray
Sligo
Galway
Longford

[galwayhoop]

galway, as it stands, are the ONLY team that might finish below us...

look, you've got into the premier, fine, but ffs get rid of the attutide that your gonna win the champions league in five years:rolleyes:

FACT is galway at present have a WEAKER squad then that which finished third in the first division.

imo most players at GUFC are actually better suited for the premier div than the first div. GUFC under Tony Cousins are a footballing side and with current additions and some more in the pipeline should do reasonably well.

in no way shape or form will GUFC finish bottom. imo will be 10th or higher.

Longford Town and Bray to finish below us with Derry as champions, Drogheda second and cork third. Shels mid table at best!

[sligoman]

galway, as it stands, are the ONLY team that might finish below us...

look, you've got into the premier, fine, but ffs get rid of the attutide that your gonna win the champions league in five years:rolleyes:

FACT is galway at present have a WEAKER squad then that which finished third in the first division.Waste of time talking to him monkey, he'll find out at the end of the season.

[pineapple stu]

3) UCD
Ah now - even I'm not that confident!!

[DmanDmythDledge]

I thought he was taking the píss.

[pineapple stu]

Yeah - he did have Shels to win the league as well. But the rest of the table seems to make some sort of sense.

[Iorfa]

1st Division

1) Waterford Utd
2) Dundalk
3) Finn Harps
4) Athone Town
5) Cobh Rambers
6) Monaghan Utd
7) Kidare County
8) Kilkenny City
9) AN Other
10) AN Other

[DmanDmythDledge]

Bray were ****e last year and don't seem to have any indictations that they'll be much better this year.I would safely say that last years top 3 in the 1st Divison would have been better than Waterford,Bray and Longford.Considering we've strengthened our squad and neither Bray or Longford have done so i think we'll at least survive.With TC at the helm i think 7th is a realistic position.
Galway have made one good signing in O'Flynn and have lost some of their best players from last season. Hardly a "strengthened" squad.

Bray have got load of a whole load of crap players and have signed good players like Cawley and Delaney. With their current squads Bray will finish ahead of Galway.

Also I can't understand how people think that Rovers, Galway or Sligo will finish so high up the table. Rovers and Galway still have First Division teams and Sligo have lost a whole host of important players from last year and have only signed one player to date. They will more than likely bring in more, but with the squad they have at the moment they will be bottom half.

My predictions (with current squads):

1. Drogheda
2. Derry
3. Cork
4. Pats
5. Bohs
6. UCD
7. Bray
8. Rovers
9. Sligo
10. Galway
11. Longford

Can't put Shels anywhere as their squad could turn out to be completely different.

[Olander]

so u think ucd will finish 6th with no goalkeepers? :p

[DmanDmythDledge]

so u think ucd will finish 6th with no goalkeepers? :p
We have a very good youth keeper actually;).

[CollegeTillIDie]

Well need I remind folks at this point that's it's supposed to be three down and one up automatically at the end of 2007 with possibly a play-off where 9th in the Premier plays 2nd in the First.

[sligoman]

Well need I remind folks at this point that's it's supposed to be three down and one up automatically at the end of 2007:eek:, didn't know that. Thought it was in the 2008 season that was in place.

[DmanDmythDledge]

:eek:, didn't know that. Thought it was in the 2008 season that was in place.
You're right, it is 2008.

[Soper]

We will win the league

McDonalds signing Van Der Vaart

[The Stars]

Great,all we need now is another striker,2 centre halfs and we will walk this league. (rollseyes)

[Soper]

No need to roll them, I'm not Sean Connor

[gael353]

1st Division

1) Dundalk
2) Athlone
3) Waterford Utd
4) Finn Harps
5) Cobh Rambers
6) Kildare County
7) Kilkenny City
8) Monaghan Utd
9) Wexford/Wallace/Dolan/Yellowbelly/strawberry celtic
10) Limerick FC

[The Sheliban]

Yeah - he did have Shels to win the league as well. But the rest of the table seems to make some sort of sense.

Just think the quality of the League next year is going to go down rather than up, which will tend to even things up and help the sides that get the ball on the floor and try to play football. As such, UCD could well have a very good season.
And I firmly believe that, conditional on who we appoint as manager, Shels will still be up there at the end.

[pineapple stu]

I agree with the first bit anyway. We've to replace Pat Kavanagh in particular, and to a lesser extent Darren Quigley and Gary Dicker (both are kind of replaced already, but the replacements need a few games obviously to bed in) and could do very well.

However, I can't see Shels being up there, to be honest. So far, Williams, Delaney, Ndo, Cahill, Stuart Byrne, Fenlon and Crawley are gone, with O'Neill and Rogers seemingly almost confirmed at Pat's and Dillon taking legal action to have his contract rescinded. The U-21s went on strike for one game as well last year over unpaid wages and I'm sure some would be happy to move on if they got the chance (if you have the next Conor Kenna, we'll take him off you!) If I were a manager or a player, I wouldn't touch Shels with a ten-foot barge pole, to be honest. That would leave, for the moment, a squad of (going off your website) -

Heary
Harris
Hawkins
Moore
Baker
Byrne
Crowe
Kearney
Ryan
O'Halloran
Ennis
Mulhall

That's only 12 players, of whom several have been linked with moves away. They obviously won't all move, but even two or three more players will leave you struggling for an XI with the quality throughout that Shels are used to, let alone a squad. With the UK transfer window only opening today, legal action now being taken to allow contracted players to rescind their contracts and leave for free and any full-time players highly unlikely to sign, Shels look to be in serious trouble ahead of next season. Wouldn't surprise me to see youz go largely part-time next season, to be honest.

[Dodge]

Just think the quality of the League next year is going to go down rather than up
Must be a Shels fan point of view. I think it'll increase greatly.

[DmanDmythDledge]

pats signing well, a scully led aggressivly hungry rovers, drogs sniffing around, a new black and tan manager, a stable derry with nusty...
I can't understand how you could even have put Rovers in the same sentence as those teams

[Kildare Lad]

1. Derry City
2. Drogheda United
3. St.Patricks Athletic
4. Cork City
5. Bohemians
6. Shelbourne
7. Sligo Rovers
8. Shamrock Rovers
9. UCD
10. Galway United
11. Longford
12. Bray Wanderers

1. Dundalk
2. Waterford United
3. Athlone Town
4. Cobh Rambelers
5. Kildare County
6. Finn Harps
7. Wexford Youths
8. Monaghan United
9. Kilkenny City
10. *Whoever fills the other spot*

[pineapple stu]

Must be a Shels fan point of view. I think it'll increase greatly.
I can't see it at present, to be honest. Look at the list of players who have left the league at the moment - Seán Dillon from Shels, Danny Murphy from Cork, Trevor Molloy and Paul Keegan from Pat's, Pat Kavanagh from UCD, David Forde from Derry, Dean Fitzgerald (Longford), and that's before you look at the likes of Gary Dicker, Darren Quigley, a fair chunk of what's left at Shels, those players (Stephen O'Brien, Jim Crawford, Vinny Arkins, etc) who have retired and of course Stephen Kenny as a manager. From the transfers thread, we've only got Brian Murphy, Mikko Vilmunen coming into the league from outside, as well then as youth players. So overall, I would say more quality has left the league than has joined it at present, which would point to a decreased quality next season. But not enough to have Shels anywhere near challenging for the title, with another player gone today.

Pat's will be improved, for example, but only because they're taking from Shels, so overall, there's no change for the league.

[Raheny Red]

(Stephen O'Brien, Jim Crawford, Vinny Arkins, etc) who have retired

Where did you hear that :confused: :ball:

[Dodge]

Crawford more than likely going to Rovers AFAIK.

And of those players mentioned only Dillon could be considered top class. I'd be fairly certain the others could be replaced easily enough

[pineapple stu]

Where did you hear that :confused: :ball:
Thought I'd heard it; maybe I'm wrong. Apologies so, though it doesn't change my point


I'd be fairly certain the others could be replaced easily enough
Could be replaced, but haven't yet. Which is kind of the point. ;) Anything could happen.

[The Sheliban]

Must be a Shels fan point of view. I think it'll increase greatly.

I'm not saying the quality will decline because Shels are in decline. I actually think the quality of football was better when Cork won the League the year before. Then we had two or three teams playing football. If (when?) Shels goalscoring dries up this year, I think we could expect a lot of low-quality goalless draws and 1-0 wins. Too many teams seem to feel, and God knows perhaps they are right, that their only chance of success is by boring and frustrating the other team, a sort of a football rope-a-dope.

[SligoBrewer]

I can't see it at present, to be honest. Look at the list of players who have left the league at the moment - Seán Dillon from Shels, Danny Murphy from Cork, Trevor Molloy and Paul Keegan from Pat's, Pat Kavanagh from UCD, David Forde from Derry, Dean Fitzgerald (Longford), and that's before you look at the likes of Gary Dicker, Darren Quigley, a fair chunk of what's left at Shels, those players (Stephen O'Brien, Jim Crawford, Vinny Arkins, etc) who have retired and of course Stephen Kenny as a manager. From the transfers thread, we've only got Brian Murphy, Mikko Vilmunen coming into the league from outside, as well then as youth players. So overall, I would say more quality has left the league than has joined it at present, which would point to a decreased quality next season. But not enough to have Shels anywhere near challenging for the title, with another player gone today.

Pat's will be improved, for example, but only because they're taking from Shels, so overall, there's no change for the league.

is on the pfai list:eek: 37 next year:eek:

[CollegeTillIDie]

Well if Shels go belly up there will only be four teams in Dublin, Bohs, Pats. UCD and Rovers.

[BohsPartisan]

1) Drogheda Utd
2) Derry City
3) Bohemian F.C.
4) St. Pats
5) Cork City
6) Sligo Rvs
7) Shamrock Rovers
8) UCD
9) Galway
10) Bray
11) Longford
12) Shels

[desaintsno.12]

1) Drogheda Utd
2) Derry City
3) PATS
4) Cork
5) Bohs
6) UCD
7) Sligo Rovers
8) Bray
9) Galway
10) Shamrocks
11) Shels
12) Longford

[pineapple stu]

Here's how Ladbrokes see things. From p 281 of Aertel -

2 Shelbourne
10/3 Cork City
5/2 Derry City
5 Drogheda Utd
10 Bohemians
10 Shamrock Rvs
25 Sligo Rovers
28 Galway Utd
28 St Patricks Ath
40 Longford Town
50 UCD
100 Bray Wanderers

The fact that they have Shels as favourites and, to a lesser extent, us to finish second last tells me they haven't a clue really. Some good value there, especially on Derry and Drogheda. Evens on Drogs to finish top three is free money, I think.

[Poor Student]

If they believe Shels are the favourites for the league then what odds would you get on them getting relegated?

[DmanDmythDledge]

I'd be more worried about Rover's and Galway's odds.

Pats each way looks like a great bet.

[DmanDmythDledge]

Paddy Power (http://www.paddypower.com/bet?action=show_type_by_main_market&category=SOCCER&disp_cat_id=&ev_class_id=56&id=817) odds:

Derry City 2 - 1
Drogheda United 3 - 1
Cork City 4 - 1
Shelbourne 9 - 2
Bohemians 8 - 1
St Patrick's Athletic 20 - 1
Sligo Rovers 40 - 1
Shamrock Rovers 40 - 1
UCD 50 - 1
Galway United 66 - 1
Bray Wanderers 66 - 1
Longford Town 80 - 1
Each way odds 1 / 5 places 3

Stan James (http://www.stanjames.com/betting/index.asp?sl=sle&gi=10&sltc=177958.2&sle=571628.2&slm=1617130.2)

[GuisaSaigon]

1-Drogheda Utd
2-Derry City
3-Pats
4-Cork City
5-Bohs
6-Galway United
7-Shamrock Rovers
8-Bray Wanderers
9-UCD
10-Shligo Rovers
11-Shels
12-Longford Town

[pineapple stu]

Paddy Power (http://www.paddypower.com/bet?action=show_type_by_main_market&category=SOCCER&disp_cat_id=&ev_class_id=56&id=817) odds:

Derry City 2 - 1
Drogheda United 3 - 1
Cork City 4 - 1
Shelbourne 9 - 2
Bohemians 8 - 1
St Patrick's Athletic 20 - 1
Sligo Rovers 40 - 1
Shamrock Rovers 40 - 1
UCD 50 - 1
Galway United 66 - 1
Bray Wanderers 66 - 1
Longford Town 80 - 1
Each way odds 1 / 5 places 3

That's more like it, although Shels are still far too high up.

[Terry]

Defintely worth putting an each way bet on Pats now, what would I get for shels to be relegated?

[sligoman]

What are the odds on Longford to be relegated? Prob crap though

[DmanDmythDledge]

You can't get odds on relegation.