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EireBadBoy
05/11/2006, 2:09 AM
Not being smart or anything, genuine question. Why so Shamrock Rovers have a star on their kit?

Meant to ask this ages ago (well, since the Pats match versus the Rovers U21 team) but forgot 'til I noticed a Liverpool question on the Derry forum.

Really hate to ask as I'm betting the answer will be really obvious! :o

Réiteoir
05/11/2006, 6:52 PM
Some national and club sides include one or more stars as part of (or beside) the crest appearing on their shirt, to represent important trophies the team has previously won. Sometimes this is a unilateral decision by the team concerned rather than a privilege earned and sanctioned by any governing body. Note that some clubs have stars on their crest that do not signify any particular titles, for example Manchester City.


Standardised significance

The first team to adopt a star was Juventus, who added one above their crest in 1958 to represent their tenth Serie A title. This was an extension of the existing convention by which the reigning champions are entitled to display the scudetto on their shirts for the following season. The star was later formally adopted as a symbol for ten titles.

The Turkish league introduced a similar scheme in 2000, with one star per 5 titles.

In the Bundesliga in Germany, a standardised star system was introduced in 2004 called Verdiente Meistervereine (roughly "championships earned"). It has a sliding scale of 1, 2, and 3 stars for 3, 5, and 10 titles. This controversially excludes champions from before the formation of the Bundesliga in 1963, and from the East German League. In November 2005, the German FA allowed all former champions playing outside the Bundesliga (the top 2 divisions) to display a single star inscribed with the number of titles[1]. Not all clubs abide by this decision.

Since 2006, all clubs currently playing in the Swedish premier league that have won ten or more championships have added a star above their crest. IFK Norrköping, have ten titles but no star, as they are currently playing in a lower division.

Major League Soccer's previously informal system, one star per MLS Cup title, was standardised in 2006, with the exception that defending champions will wear the MLS Scudetto for one season in place of the star.


Ad hoc adoptions

Brazil added three stars above their crest after winning their third World Cup in 1970. Italy did likewise in 1982. All world champions have since followed suit. Uruguay display four stars, regarding their triumphs in the 1924 and 1928 Olympics as equivalent to their later World Cup wins, as there was no World Cup at the time.

More recently, club teams have added stars: either upon winning a landmark trophy, or in response to a rival team's having added stars. Manchester United wore two stars in their UEFA Champions League matches in 1999-2000, to celebrate their second victory in the competition the preceding season. Liverpool F.C. likewise wore four stars in 2001-02, their first campaign in the event since the Heysel Stadium disaster in 1985. They wore five stars in the competition in 2005-06 after their fifth victory. In stead of stars, the UEFA introduced the UEFA badge of honour in 2003, currently worn by five teams, who have either won the Champions League five times or more in total, or three times in a row.

In women's football, the emerging ad hoc standard is to wear stars on the sleeve instead of the crest. All three teams that have won the FIFA Women's World Cup to date—the USA, Norway and Germany—wear their star(s) there.


List here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_%28football_crest%29#List


Rovers placed a star on their jerseys in 2005 to represent winning over 10 League Titles

jebus
05/11/2006, 7:00 PM
I think this is covered in a roundabout way in the rubbish section

Philo
05/11/2006, 7:23 PM
Rovers placed a star on their jerseys in 2005 to represent winning over 10 League Titles

The old shamrock won those titles, the new club hasn't won a thing yet.

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Réiteoir
05/11/2006, 7:38 PM
iirc - there was a massive issue concerning Milton Keynes Dons claiming the Honours that the club won as Wimbledon.

Billy Lord
05/11/2006, 9:37 PM
The old shamrock won those titles, the new club hasn't won a thing yet.

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Nice try, Philo. I'll give you 16 re-elections for effort. We've won 15 leagues and 24 cups as Shamrock Rovers. We are still Shamrock Rovers and that's all there is to it, and now the fans own the most successful franchise in Irish football. In my lifetime I've seen Rovers win six leagues and 11 FAI Cups. If you live to be 1,000 you'll never witness that much silverware.

Macy
06/11/2006, 7:44 AM
Note that some clubs have stars on their crest that do not signify any particular titles, for example Manchester City.
It's to signify how many different divisions they've played in since 5-1. FACT.

Dodge
06/11/2006, 9:26 AM
So to answer the initial question, they just decided to put one there. Just like Shels did. Just like Celtic decided to put a silver one (platinum me ********...) there and Rangers decided to put 5 gold ones on their kit

dcfcsteve
06/11/2006, 12:15 PM
iirc - there was a massive issue concerning Milton Keynes Dons claiming the Honours that the club won as Wimbledon.

There was Reiteoir.

Since Franchise FC went to Milton keynes and their fans set up a new club, AFC Wimbledon have been campaigning to have the owners won by Wimbledon - including a replica FA Cup - transferred to AFC.

In the last month, following arbitration between the clubs, they finally succeeded :)

There is now absolutely nothing to connect MK Dons to Wimbledon Fc any more. Different location, team colours, crest, and now history. Yet the FA enabled their move on the basis that they would be the same club...... :rolleyes: