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10/10/2002, 10:05 AM
From the Irish Times:
Longford face nine-point deduction over John affair
By Emmet Malone
10/10/02: Longford Town face the possibility that they will be deducted nine points by the Eircom League's Board of Control this evening after it emerged that Avery John may not have been properly registered while playing his first three games for the club.
Trinidad and Tobago international John signed for the Flancare Park club in mid-September after a brief spell in England, where he had been refused a work permit to play for Colchester United, and made his debut against Cork City. Since then he has played against Bray Wanderers and Bohemians.
But it emerged last week that while the FAI had forwarded an international clearance certificate for the player to the association in England, so that the 27 year-old could sign for the second division club, a similar document had not been sent in the opposite direction when he returned to this country.
Longford chairman Jim Hanley contends that if there has been a problem then the club should not be penalised, as it is the league that is ultimately responsible.
"After all that happened last season," he says, "we put mechanisms in place to guard against precisely this sort of thing and we have faxes from the league listing the players who are eligible for various games and Avery is on the relevant lists."
The practice at the league, however, is to send out lists of registered players and in this case while nobody appears to dispute that the club registered John in good faith, the absence of an international clearance would make the defender ineligible to play for the club.
According to the rules it is the responsibility of the club to supply an international clearance if one is required. This is in part because the FAI's international department is not required to inform the league of any clearances that it has issued for players leaving the country and there is therefore no expectation that the organisation should be aware of whether a player needs a clearance or not.
Longford's member of the board, Donald Keogh, is expected to contend that because John was refused a work permit and never played a game for Colchester, the international clearance is an irrelevance. When registering the player Longford listed his previous club as having been Bohemians but the question on the form apparently relates to what club the player was last "associated" with and having attempted to sign for Colchester - it is unclear whether he actually signed forms - it appears that the English club should have been listed here. In any case it is reported that the league's chairman, Michael Hyland, has since contacted the English FA to establish whether the clearance certificate sent by the FAI could simply be cancelled retrospectively but it was the view of officials at Soho Square that it could not and that a new cert would indeed have to be issued.
The club's potential difficulties are compounded by the fact a separate league rule states in the event a player leaves the country, and a clearance is issued for him, he may not play again here for a minimum of eight weeks, a period that elapsed only yesterday.
In addition it is alleged that, upon discovering the discrepancy one of the league's administrators, Sharon Smith, phoned Longford manager Alan Matthews shortly before last week's game against Bohemians and informed him that John should not play.
Matthews denies getting the warning in time, claiming "I got a call from the league when I was in the dressing room and wasn't in a position to take the call". He concedes, however, that he answered the phone but maintains, "the call was breaking down and when I checked afterwards there was a message" (to the effect that John should not play).
It is expected that this evening's board meeting will consider the matter and take an initial decision on what action to take. But if its members feel that Longford have broken the rules then they are obliged to dock the club three points for each game in which the player has played illegally.
If Longford are docked nine points it would leave the club joint bottom, although whatever decision is taken today, it is almost certain to be appealed.
"If we've done wrong then we'll stand up and accept the fact but I hope that the people in the league are prepared to do the same if, as we believe, the mistake turns out to be theirs," concludes Hanley.
From the Irish Independent:
Longford 'have case to answer'
Thursday October 10th 2002
ANOTHER player registration row has struck the Eircom League.
This time it's Longford Town and defender Avery John who are in trouble with the League, who have called an emergency Board of Control meeting today to rule on whether the Trinidad and Tobago international played three Premier Division games this season without being properly registered.
If the claims are upheld than Longford could lose nine points and plummet from fourth to joint bottom. The League's basis for argument is that that John didn't receive international clearance to return to Ireland after he went on trial to Colchester in the summer.
But Longford Town manager Alan Matthews believes the club has nothing to be alarmed about.
"We signed Avery and registered him with the League as we would any player. The registration was accepted and I understand we have written confirmation from the League that Avery was eligible to play for us," he said.
"Avery was released by Bohs and went to Colchester where he played in a couple of trial games but never signed for them. On his return, he was a free agent and we signed him.
"The League informed us we couldn't play him because he had a suspension to serve but the first we knew there might be a problem was last week when the League wrote to us. It's a mess but we feel it will be sorted out in our favour."
A League source said: "Avery John needed international clearance to leave the League, which he got, and he needed clearance on his return, which he didn't get. Longford have a case to answer."
It's unclear whether John was eligible to play for Longford so soon on his return as the rules state a player must wait eight weeks before playing again if he goes to another jurisdiction.
Shamrock Rovers manager Liam Buckley has completed the signing of Trevor Molloy on a two-year contract. Molloy, who was a free agent after being released by Carlisle, won a league medal under Buckley at St Pat's ('98/'99).
Dundalk will start interviews for the manager's job next week. Caretaker boss Ollie Ralph is favourite to succeed Martin Murray.
Philip Quinn
Longford face nine-point deduction over John affair
By Emmet Malone
10/10/02: Longford Town face the possibility that they will be deducted nine points by the Eircom League's Board of Control this evening after it emerged that Avery John may not have been properly registered while playing his first three games for the club.
Trinidad and Tobago international John signed for the Flancare Park club in mid-September after a brief spell in England, where he had been refused a work permit to play for Colchester United, and made his debut against Cork City. Since then he has played against Bray Wanderers and Bohemians.
But it emerged last week that while the FAI had forwarded an international clearance certificate for the player to the association in England, so that the 27 year-old could sign for the second division club, a similar document had not been sent in the opposite direction when he returned to this country.
Longford chairman Jim Hanley contends that if there has been a problem then the club should not be penalised, as it is the league that is ultimately responsible.
"After all that happened last season," he says, "we put mechanisms in place to guard against precisely this sort of thing and we have faxes from the league listing the players who are eligible for various games and Avery is on the relevant lists."
The practice at the league, however, is to send out lists of registered players and in this case while nobody appears to dispute that the club registered John in good faith, the absence of an international clearance would make the defender ineligible to play for the club.
According to the rules it is the responsibility of the club to supply an international clearance if one is required. This is in part because the FAI's international department is not required to inform the league of any clearances that it has issued for players leaving the country and there is therefore no expectation that the organisation should be aware of whether a player needs a clearance or not.
Longford's member of the board, Donald Keogh, is expected to contend that because John was refused a work permit and never played a game for Colchester, the international clearance is an irrelevance. When registering the player Longford listed his previous club as having been Bohemians but the question on the form apparently relates to what club the player was last "associated" with and having attempted to sign for Colchester - it is unclear whether he actually signed forms - it appears that the English club should have been listed here. In any case it is reported that the league's chairman, Michael Hyland, has since contacted the English FA to establish whether the clearance certificate sent by the FAI could simply be cancelled retrospectively but it was the view of officials at Soho Square that it could not and that a new cert would indeed have to be issued.
The club's potential difficulties are compounded by the fact a separate league rule states in the event a player leaves the country, and a clearance is issued for him, he may not play again here for a minimum of eight weeks, a period that elapsed only yesterday.
In addition it is alleged that, upon discovering the discrepancy one of the league's administrators, Sharon Smith, phoned Longford manager Alan Matthews shortly before last week's game against Bohemians and informed him that John should not play.
Matthews denies getting the warning in time, claiming "I got a call from the league when I was in the dressing room and wasn't in a position to take the call". He concedes, however, that he answered the phone but maintains, "the call was breaking down and when I checked afterwards there was a message" (to the effect that John should not play).
It is expected that this evening's board meeting will consider the matter and take an initial decision on what action to take. But if its members feel that Longford have broken the rules then they are obliged to dock the club three points for each game in which the player has played illegally.
If Longford are docked nine points it would leave the club joint bottom, although whatever decision is taken today, it is almost certain to be appealed.
"If we've done wrong then we'll stand up and accept the fact but I hope that the people in the league are prepared to do the same if, as we believe, the mistake turns out to be theirs," concludes Hanley.
From the Irish Independent:
Longford 'have case to answer'
Thursday October 10th 2002
ANOTHER player registration row has struck the Eircom League.
This time it's Longford Town and defender Avery John who are in trouble with the League, who have called an emergency Board of Control meeting today to rule on whether the Trinidad and Tobago international played three Premier Division games this season without being properly registered.
If the claims are upheld than Longford could lose nine points and plummet from fourth to joint bottom. The League's basis for argument is that that John didn't receive international clearance to return to Ireland after he went on trial to Colchester in the summer.
But Longford Town manager Alan Matthews believes the club has nothing to be alarmed about.
"We signed Avery and registered him with the League as we would any player. The registration was accepted and I understand we have written confirmation from the League that Avery was eligible to play for us," he said.
"Avery was released by Bohs and went to Colchester where he played in a couple of trial games but never signed for them. On his return, he was a free agent and we signed him.
"The League informed us we couldn't play him because he had a suspension to serve but the first we knew there might be a problem was last week when the League wrote to us. It's a mess but we feel it will be sorted out in our favour."
A League source said: "Avery John needed international clearance to leave the League, which he got, and he needed clearance on his return, which he didn't get. Longford have a case to answer."
It's unclear whether John was eligible to play for Longford so soon on his return as the rules state a player must wait eight weeks before playing again if he goes to another jurisdiction.
Shamrock Rovers manager Liam Buckley has completed the signing of Trevor Molloy on a two-year contract. Molloy, who was a free agent after being released by Carlisle, won a league medal under Buckley at St Pat's ('98/'99).
Dundalk will start interviews for the manager's job next week. Caretaker boss Ollie Ralph is favourite to succeed Martin Murray.
Philip Quinn