Dalglish taking over from Robson?

[Noelys Guitar]

I knew Delaney was up to something and stated so 2 days ago. And this is purely to cover himself.

[onceahoop]

What's your source

[Noelys Guitar]

http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=1702294&issue_id=14742

[Noelys Guitar]

I meant to put a queston mark after the title. I don't believe Daglish will come on board as a "consultant"! And he would want a few more Euros than the FAI offered Robson. Can't see it happening and he would'nt be my choice. We are in a quagmire of Delaneys making. He needs to go. Stan needs to be paid off (as little as possible)Half empty stadiums and loss of endorsements would cost more. I would bring in Kinnear or Curbishley. Anyone hoping for a football revolution should not hold their breath. We need stability. A manager who understands tactics and getting the best out of what we have. The basics please.

[Fergie's Son]

It appears that Daglish may be brought in to steady the ship so to speak. http://www.eleven-a-side.com/euro2008/irish_soccer_detail.asp?newsid=24821

Not a terrible decision but it will only work if Daglish is given complete control. Put another way, Staunton has to be fired before Daglish can take over. Having two managers just doesn't work and Daglish should not have to play second fiddle to Staunton. I think Daglish would shore things up and wouldn't have an ego about players (i.e. Carlsley).

Thoughts?

[co. down green]

Trying to keep Kenny off the golf course will be the biggest problem

[DeNiro]

The dalglish stroke looks inspired by Delvin. They have good contacts from what I understand. So it's still Delaney and his cronies that are contriving our downfall. Dalglish won't be able to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. And by god is it a sow's ear.

[onenilgameover]

It appears that Daglish may be brought in to steady the ship so to speak. http://www.eleven-a-side.com/euro2008/irish_soccer_detail.asp?newsid=24821

Not a terrible decision but it will only work if Daglish is given complete control. Put another way, Staunton has to be fired before Daglish can take over. Having two managers just doesn't work and Daglish should not have to play second fiddle to Staunton. I think Daglish would shore things up and wouldn't have an ego about players (i.e. Carlsley).

Thoughts?

if delaney thinks bringing kenny in to replace robson in the same role he will have made the same mistake twice...i can see it happening though....:eek:

i can also see a linching and a purging....:D

[Block G Raptor]

Reckon Kenny could make a real difference but I'd rather he was stans replacement rather than mentor
cant believe the negativity of people on here about him. the man is a legend
was class at Liverpool and Won the premiership at a minnow club (blackburn)
newcastle weren't great under him but I think international management would suit him. I've always been amazed that he's not managed Scotland

[Fergie's Son]

Well which is why I think Stan has to go.

Daglish would be a steadying influence and wouldn't take crap from any player. He would be a good transitional manager at least for the remainder of our so called Euro campaign.

[Roadend]

was class at Liverpool and Won the premiership at a minnow club (blackburn)

He ingherited an already great side at Liverpool and I'll just say Jack Walker about Blackburn.

[thegit]

By getting Dalglish is Delany admiting Staunton needs help to dig himself out of the S*** pit he's in ....... why keep wasting all this money? can't we just get rid of Delany and Staunton and forget about Dalglish, and look out for a GOOD manager with a direction, who will shake all those senior players up and give them the kick up the A*** they need.

[Block G Raptor]

when did he do these things?

what was his last management job and how did that end?

he is unemployed for a reason.....

He is unemployed for the same reason Martin O'Neill was unemployed for quite a long time. because unlike Bill Shankley Kenny knows that football is not more important than life and death and is spending time with his wife who is recovering from Breast Cancer
he is also currently involved in fund raising for the Marina Dalglish foundation

[Poor Student]

The dalglish stroke looks inspired by Delvin. They have good contacts from what I understand. So it's still Delaney and his cronies that are contriving our downfall. Dalglish won't be able to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. And by god is it a sow's ear.

Well spotted. Dalglish and Devo struck up a friendship over Devlin selling Graham Coughlin to Blackburn. It's come in handy over the years like when he got Celtic over to face Bray during Celtic's disasterous and short lived John Barnes/Kenny Dalglish era. I think that's Dalglish's last job in management and it went terribly. There's no reason to suggest he could help Stan any better than he could help Barnes and as DeNiro pointed out, it's got cronyism and old pals act written all over it.

[eirebhoy]

I don't know whether Dalglish would take it. After what happened in a similar role at Celtic he'd be risking his managerial career by taking this.

[geysir]

Do you think he has still ambitions to manage at a high enough level?

[reder]

I would bring in Kinnear or Curbishley.

LMAO. You must be mad, like Curbishley is gonna take this job, he is a young man and I think he may be a little too costly for FAI purse strings. Kinnear would cost an arm and a leg too. He has been out of management for a good while and is probably looking for a gig with a large salary. Also given that he isnt shy to speak his mind, I dont think the FAI and him would get on to well.

King kenny is porbably the best option at this stage but I dont think he will come to play 2nd. Given that his wife is recovering from cancer and that he is very active with the charity I doubt he will be willing and able to take on the job cos this is a massive job. Whoever comes in has a mountain of work to do.

Did kenny ever manage Celtic or was he just director of football?? The 2 roles are a million miles apart in a club.

[shakermaker1982]

keep clear of Kinnear - he was a shambles at Forest after an initial decent start.

Kenny would be the last straw for me personally - I just don't think I can take another chump as a manager. This is another backward step - Kenny bless him had a brilliant set up at Liverpool and money to burn at Blackburn. I could have won the league with his resources.....

I don't expect us to go out and get Guus Hiddink or Mourinho but a decent name with international /Champions League/Uefa cup experience in the last 5 or 6 years. Curbishley hasn't got that but I'd definitely take him, somehow I son't think he'd be interested in Robbie Keane moaning. If we could steal L Sanchez from N Ireland I'd grab him with both hands. That is how desperate the situation is.

[EalingGreen]

LMAO. I doubt he [Dalglish] will be willing and able to take on the job cos this is a massive job. Whoever comes in has a mountain of work to do.


Hardly. It's actually a part-time job, requiring 10 to 12 weeks a year, max, thereby leaving Kenny plenty of time for his golf. After all, if Klinnsmann could manage Germany to the WC semi-finals from 6,000 miles away in California, and Hiddinck could manage Australia on a part-time basis, there's no reason why Dalglish couldn't do the same for ROI from his home in England. Why, even 90% of his players play there! Don't know whether he'd be any good, mind. Maybe? Maybe not?

And as for Shakermaker's suggestion of luring Sanchez, you have two hopes of that - Bob and No! Ever since he took the NI job, he has never hidden his desire to return to full-time management in England. And although he has pledged to see out the remaining 18 months of his Contract, he hasn't precluded doing so in addition to managing any England club which would sanction such an arrangement. Indeed, it was Sanchez who described managing NI as being part-time. I don't see the ROI as being that much bigger. You have better players than NI, for a start.

[Fergie's Son]

Daglish did well with Walker's money but he also bought well. Blackburn weren't a Chelsea where they could buy anyone and everyone. He still had to be selective. Fact remains, he won the Premiership which is light years away from anything Staunton has done.

Daglish to get things back in order then a new manager for the WC.

Staunton should resign now.

[Poor Student]

Did kenny ever manage Celtic or was he just director of football?? The 2 roles are a million miles apart in a club.

He saw out the last third of the season when Barnes went. He won the League Cup against Aberdeen but Celtic were already in the final. Celtic finished up miles behind Rangers in the league. He was supposed to do for Barnes what Robson was to do for Staunton. It was an unmitigated disaster.

[Stuttgart88]

Agreed. Dalglish is totally discredited. What'll the guy who played Stan Petrov as a full back do for our central midfield?

And he had the nerve to claim for 700k after the damage he caused. Not for me.

[Fergie's Son]

So he had a bad spell at Celtic. So what. Many good managers have had bad spells. He is still a lot better than Staunton and might actually light a fire under the arses of some of the players.

[Stuttgart88]

I was referring to his spell at Newcastle too. I was conscious when I posted that it could be interpreted as being the view of a bitter Celtic fan. Honestly, nothing could be further from the truth. It's a wholly objective opinion based on two awful performances at big jobs.

Dalglish doesn't have the work ethic required for the job. I've thought for a long time that he's lazy & self serving, and only out for what he can get cheaply.

[Fergie's Son]

I think, however, with the current crisis (and let's be honest, this is a crisis), he could do a job.

He's a good short-term solution.

[Billsthoughts]

I think Staunton should do the decent thing and resign on wed regardless of the result. the Holland and Cyprus games were a disgrace. 4-0 and 5-2 were awful results. Delaney should commit to getting a professional in to run the FAI and a Top football person in to run the football side of it. I dont think Daglish should be allowed anywhere near our national team. He did well when players thought he was a god of a player and not so well with players who didnt remember him playing. We dont need an "international consultant". We need a manager. No players should be guaranteed a start. Keane,Kilbane, O brien and O shea should all be dropped until their form/attitude improves.

[shakermaker1982]

Appointing Dalglish will just make things worse. Surely they(the FA) can see this? He hasn't achieved anything in football for well over a decade. Bill is right we need a MANAGER - not a bloody consultant. Let Stan look over the under 9s (create a new team for him!!!) or something if they feel guilty about sacking him but God appointing Kenny will only compound our misery even further.

Ealing - I know we'd never be able to appoint Sanchez. Why the hell would he want to join this sinking ship?? But he is the kind of guy with experience that we need. He gets the best out of a set of players that on paper wouldn't get into our shambles of a side. In reality I'd take the lot of em because they have pride and committment. Lawrie deserves credit for that.

[pete]

Bobby Robsons timesheet (http://www.rb59.com/babysitter/LGSS.jpg)

FAI Job spec (http://www.babysitters.ie/)

[CollegeTillIDie]

British coaching is part of the problem we need to go continental.
Marcello Lippi or Dino Zoff. At least they would sort out the defence !

[Fergie's Son]

Neither of them would come anywhere near Ireland.

Sven Goren was a continental coach in that that's where he learned his trade and he didn't do much for England.

We just need a manager who isn't a clown like Staunton.

[Stuttgart88]

British coaching is part of the problem we need to go continental.Longer term, yes, and our underage development plans should reflect this. We should get continentals involved in our league set up and maybe even have foreign referees officiate in eL games.

But in the near term we just need someone capable of making basic sound team selections and getting the players to play properly.

Billsthoughts is right when he says all we do is hoof it these days. Full back gets ball, punts it up touchline, midget loses possession to 6 footer...

There's absolutely no finesse in our play whatsoever.

[Superhoops]

There's absolutely no finesse in our play whatsoever.
Because none of our players are technically good enough.

Last Saturday, even the Cypriots had better touch and control. All our guys, including Damian Duff, reputedly our best technical player, needed two touches. Even the simple 10/15 yard pass which should be natural for any top class footballer is often beyond our guys.

It was not only last Saturday, it has been evident time and time again.

[eirebhoy]

Because none of our players are technically good enough.
We have no worse a first XI than we had under Kerr or McCarthy so I don't buy that we're not good enough to beat Cyprus.

[Billsthoughts]

no, but its a fair point to make that teams we play against always look far more comfortable on the ball.

[DeNiro]

Isn't there a meeting taking place today to decide Robson's future? Should we expect some sort of decision or will there be the usual fumbling?

[Calcio Jack]

British coaching is part of the problem we need to go continental.
Marcello Lippi or Dino Zoff. At least they would sort out the defence !

Great choices... but neither can speak english... hmmmm suspect both are top of Delanet's list !!

[DmanDmythDledge]

Because none of our players are technically good enough.
I think that is down to way youth players are developed at an early age. Many of the problems have been discussed here (http://www.foot.ie/showthread.php?t=33115).

[Billy Lord]

Bottom line: Irish people are more concerned with getting kids to England than developing them as technically competent footballers.
Bringing in Dalglish would be a joke and only shows that the FAI simply haven't a clue about the game. All he'll do is improve his swing. He has nothing to offer Irish football.

[macdermesser]

According the beeb who in turn are quoting the Star (with each word this becoming less plausible)

"the FAI set to turn to ex-Charlton manager Alan Curbishley to replace him after deciding against Kenny Dalglish."

Now .. I somehow doubt that Curbishley would want to be Staunton's assistant .. but I wonder how and where this originated. Was he sounded out in case we were hockeyed against the Czechs?

[DeNiro]

The Curbishley thing sounds ridiculous enough to be true. It's the FAI we are dealing with here remember. Whatever they see in Curbishley I don't know. Who recommended him? And Why? Does he know anything about international football? If he comes in as coach, does this undermine McDonald, who hasn't set the world a light with his coaching manoeuvres yet!

[Billsthoughts]

Great choices... but neither can speak english... hmmmm suspect both are top of Delanet's list !!
Neither can dalglish!



Bringing in Dalglish would be a joke and only shows that the FAI simply haven't a clue about the game. All he'll do is improve his swing. He has nothing to offer Irish football.

:D :D

[harps1954]

I have no problems with Dalglish or Curblishley coming in to fill the role that Robson had. However, I do have one problem with it. Who is making the appointment? Is Staunton calling the shots? Is Delaney/FAI making the appointment over Staunton's head?

If Delaney/FAI are making the appointment, they are undermining Staunton. How does that make Staunton feel?

I said it before in an earlier post, I would have no problem with Dalglish coming in. I wouldn't have a problem with Curblishley coming in either. But if it is not what Staunton wants, then the FAI have two options. They either stick with Staunton and forget about his babysitter or they sack Staunton and appoint Dalglish/Curbishley/AN Other to the Manager's position.

Imagine if you were Manager and the FAI told you that they were going to bring in someone to watch over you, give you advice, etc. The FAI would basically be telling you that they are not confident you could do the job on your own. If it is Staunton who wants the guy in the stand, fair enough. If not, the FAI should forget about it or appoint someone to the Manager's job who they trust to do the job!!

[cavan_fan]

Curbishley would be a good appointment if the idea was that he would provide the tactical experience. How the 2 would work together I dont know.

Nothing that has happened ove the last week would make me woried if Kevin McDonald were to leave though!