Team For The Czech Republic Game

[FootballsKing]

Henderson: GK
O Dea : CB
Mc Carthey: CB
Mc Shane: CB
Mc Geady: LW
Duff: RM
Ireland: CM
Gibson: CM
Stokes: S
Long: S
Doyle: S

Might as well get rid of the dead wood now-any REALLY build for the future instead of pretenting to with mugs like Kilbane, Honey Monster, Morrison etc in the team. Put out that attacking formation and just go for absolute broke.

ps this is a frustration post and i will probably regret making it

[Marked Man]

Henderson: GK
O Dea : CB
Mc Carthey: CB
Mc Shane: CB
Mc Geady: LW
Duff: RM
Ireland: CM
Gibson: CM
Stokes: S
Long: S
Doyle: S

Might as well get rid of the dead wood now-any REALLY build for the future instead of pretenting to with mugs like Kilbane, Honey Monster, Morrison etc in the team. Put out that attacking formation and just go for absolute broke.

ps this is a frustration post and i will probably regret making it


Dunne is no mug, whatever about today.

[Qwerty]

Who is the Duff fella?

[FootballsKing]

Dunne is a mug, he's an oaf who occassionally looks good, when covering up for his own mistakes, as I always say. Irelands REAL future does not lie with people like this.

[skitz3]

Barry Ryan
Owen Heary
Darragh Maguire
Jason Gavin
John Frost etc etc

Any team made up of EL players

[inexile]

bonner
irwin
phelan
mcgrath
babb
houghton
townsend
keane
sheedy
aldridge
cas

as they are now

[Fear Manach]

Gibson injured...but would probably still do a better job..

[Marked Man]

Would have McCarthy or O' Leary in for babb. Otherwise you've nailed it.

[Condex]

bonner
irwin
phelan
mcgrath
babb
houghton
townsend
keane
sheedy
aldridge
cas

as they are now

Jesus, no Babb he would look at home in this team!!

[inexile]

i included babb cos otherwise we might have a very good side and that would be unrealistic!!!!

[soccerc]

Alan Quinn and Andy Reid will both start in midfield ;)

[Young Hov]

Would really love to see a minor cull of players after this performance. There's no need for Kilbane to play again, we all no how limited he is. Morrison likewise. Carsley, McCarthy and Long to play on Wednesday night.

[pete]

Alan Quinn and Andy Reid will both start in midfield ;)

Reid has played for Charlton in recent weeks. Why does Staunton not see him as fit enough for at least a place on the bench in Cyprus?

:confused:

(btw no single player would have made a difference today)

[theworm2345]

How about

------------------Me------------------
E. Dunphy-Staunton-McCarthy-O'Donoghue
---Blood---McAleese---Ahearn---Delaney
-----------Podge---------Rodge------------
:rolleyes: :( :mad:

[pete]

------- Devine
Finnan ??? ??? Harte
McGeady Gamble Miller Duff
--------- Reid
--------- Doyle

[theworm2345]

------- Devine
Finnan ??? ??? Harte
McGeady Gamble Miller Duff
--------- Reid
--------- Doyle
Bring Breen back, Connolly, probably Tabb and hopefully McCarthy

[tetsujin1979]

it is goign to get worst on wednesday. we've no central midfield, and with dunne suspended we've no central defence.
it'll be o'brien and O'shea, and we're fcuked. there's no 2 ways about it

[theworm2345]

it is goign to get worst on wednesday. we've no central midfield, and with dunne suspended we've no central defence.
it'll be o'brien and O'shea, and we're fcuked. there's no 2 ways about it
Can it really get worse? (Besides losing to San Marino)

[DmanDmythDledge]

Lets face it. The only changes will be St Ledger in for Dunne, Doyle back if he's recovered and maybe Andy Reid in midfield. Stan is clueless. He will think that he has a point to prove picking a similar lineup.

[higgins]

Heary should be considered.
Theres no way a back four with Heary in it would go 90 mins defending like that !!!

Long should get at least a place in the squad as Clinton is a tool. Doyle to start with Robbie up front and if he's not fit then go 4-5-1. Jayo has not had a great season so far and does not deserve another call up on current form.

He'll probably stick O'Shea in at the back for Dunne?

[shakermaker1982]

as long as O'shea and Kilbane are in the side who cares???

[Peadar]

Kenny
Kelly, O'Brien, O'Shea, Finnan
McGeady, Ireland, Kilbane, Duff
Doyle, Keane

I fear for us, I really do. :(

Full squad for Wednesday:
Paddy Kenny (Sheffield United)
Wayne Henderson (Brighton)
Nick Colgan (Barnsley)
Andy O’Brien (Portsmouth),
Stephen Kelly (Birmingham City),
Steve Finnan (Liverpool)
John O’Shea (Manchester United)
Aiden McGeady (Celtic),
Stephen Ireland (Manchester City),
Kevin Kilbane (Wigan),
Damien Duff (Newcastle United),
Clinton Morrison (Crystal Palace),
Robbie Keane (Tottenham Hotspur),
Alan Lee (Ipswich Town),
Kevin Doyle (Reading),
Alan Quinn (Sheffield United),
Andy Reid (Charlton Athletic),
Alan O’Brien (Newcastle United).
Sean St. Leger (Preston North End),
Paul McShane (West Bromwich Albion),
Jonathan Douglas (Leeds United)

PaddyPower.com is offering 11/4 on us winning, 10/11 on the Czech's winning and 21/10 the draw.

[ifk101]

Kenny

Kelly O'Brien Josh Finnan

McGeady Ireland Reid Douglas Duff

Keane

Try to keep it tight, stable and scoreless for the first 60 mins, bring on Doyle for the last 30 and try to win.

[Dr. Ogba]

Kenny
Kelly, O'Brien, O'Shea, Finnan
McGeady, Ireland, Kilbane, Duff
Doyle, Keane

I fear for us, I really do. :(

Full squad for Wednesday:
Paddy Kenny (Sheffield United)
Wayne Henderson (Brighton)
Nick Colgan (Barnsley)
Andy O’Brien (Portsmouth),
Stephen Kelly (Birmingham City),
Steve Finnan (Liverpool)
John O’Shea (Manchester United)
Aiden McGeady (Celtic),
Stephen Ireland (Manchester City),
Kevin Kilbane (Wigan),
Damien Duff (Newcastle United),
Clinton Morrison (Crystal Palace),
Robbie Keane (Tottenham Hotspur),
Alan Lee (Ipswich Town),
Kevin Doyle (Reading),
Alan Quinn (Sheffield United),
Andy Reid (Charlton Athletic),
Alan O’Brien (Newcastle United).
Sean St. Leger (Preston North End),
Paul McShane (West Bromwich Albion),
Jonathan Douglas (Leeds United)

PaddyPower.com is offering 11/4 on us winning, 10/11 on the Czech's winning and 21/10 the draw.

Jaysus get you money on the Czechs now...thats a banker!

Just heard on the radio that he has called up Stephen Kelly (a full back) to cover for Richard Dunne (centre-half!!!!!)....bloody hell Paddy McCarthy didn't sleep with Staunton's missus did he???? :eek:

[mjpcc]

Drop the extire squad and send out an entire EL selection.
I think they would do better than the existing squad.

Th EL players would give 100%.

[dr_peepee]

Stephen Kelly was called up to replace Liam Miller who withdrew through injury!!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

There should be a cull on Wednesday. And had Dunne not been suspended O'Brien would've got the chop, and rightly so. He still might. Hard to say who'll start. Kelly has played on both full back positions for spurs so he may start at left full. He may also pack the middle and opt for the lone forward. But Doyle would be more suited to that and he's not going to drop Keane. God only knows what he'll opt for. I can't believe he played 2 out and out wingers with such a soft midfield. I really can't.

[DeNiro]

We're going to have to stop trying to work out things. We can only do that when logic is being applied. We know Staunton is not applying logic.

[onenilgameover]

Ted

Dougal Jack Mrs. Doyle Bishop Brennan


Pat Mustard Bono Geldof Graham Norton

McFadden Jim Corr



SUBS: Bertie Ahern, Mary Robinson, Dustin the Turkey, Louis Walsh, The Edge, Liam Miller, Sean St Ledger.

Jim Corr could do a job for us alright....

not sure about Sean St Ledger but his misses on page 3 of the star looks hot.

still trying to get my hands on a gun so i dont have to watch the match on Weds..

[Keithcon]

Kenny
Finnan O'Brien O'Shea Kilbane

McGeady Quinn Ireland A.Reid

Duff
Keane

[theworm2345]

Just thought I would mention that Long is back from suspension, and Murphy and Connolly are both fully fit

[kingp35]

Why do poeple want Stephen Ireland to start. He is rubbish against Cyprus from start to finish. Just because he scored a goal doesnt cover up those facts.

--------Kenny-------
Finnan--O' Brien--O' Shea--Kilbane
Duff---Douglas--Quinn--McGeady
-----------Reid----------------
-----------Doyle--------------

Thats the team I would play although there is no wat Stan will. As I keep saying, Douglas has got to play!!

[concanta]

I think it's great that Kilbane and O'Shea will not be in midfield that will definitely be an improvement but of course our back line looks a pile of sh*te - think kilbane might ( I say might ) be ok but o'shea worries me deeply.

I know I will be called every stupid eejit under the sun here but I think we might scramble a win on wednesday

[Stuttgart88]

For the first time in my life I can't even be bothered to think about who to start.

So few deserve to play and some that do aren't even in the squad.

[Metrostars]

What would be better?

Squeezing out a 0-0 draw and Staunton stays in the job or a thumping of say 4-0 and Staunton goes?

[concanta]

even though I feel sick, humiliated, hurt, angry, upset and violated by saturdays game - I cannot bring my myself to want Ireland to lose. I know there is sense in saying if we lose we might get rid of him.

[eirebhoy]

I'll be cheering on Ireland as much as any other game but put it this way, there'll be plenty of consolation in defeat. Stutts mentioned that he wasn't as disappointed after Saturday's defeat as he has been on many occasions and I feel the same. I wasn't dreading coming on here on Sunday afternoon.

I think the FAI would actually be better off financially if they pay Stan off if we lose on Wednesday as a new manager will mean a lot more people willing to support the team in Croker.

[Stuttgart88]

I'll accept pretty much whatever happens of Wednesday.

I said it on another thread but I'm far more upbeat this morning than when, for example, we drew 1-1 in Skopje. I'm the eternal optimist & I can see a sceario where we gain from this.

At least this catastrophe happened early on.

[Stuttgart88]

I think the FAI would actually be better of financially if they pay Stan off if we lose on Wednesday as a new manager will mean a lot more people willing to support the team in Croker. Excellent point.

[nismo]

now that keane is gone you see how much off a loss he is!

[shakermaker1982]

As long as the following don't start I'm content:

Kenny
O'Brien
O'Shea
Kilbane

dropping the following lads to prove a point that you don't take the green shirt for granted would also be a risky but brave move:

Keane
Finnan
S Ireland
Clinton

2 guys I'd keep would be:

McGeady
Duff

Dunne is suspended. Basically we don't have a team left and Staunton is too stubborn to call up Carsley and McCarthy.

[tetsujin1979]

I think the FAI would actually be better of financially if they pay Stan off if we lose on Wednesday as a new manager will mean a lot more people willing to support the team in Croker.

Can't think where I read it (probably the Indo) but rumour has it that the 4 games in Croke Park will all be sold together as the one package. So if you want to see Germany and Wales you'll have to see (or at least buy tickets for Slovakia and Cyprus.
I'd say it's more likely that the games will be sold as Wales + Slovakia and Germany + Cyprus

[geysir]

I see that there is hope that it's a no lose game.
Assuming that is, that Stan is replaced and not rementored.

There were some things that Kerr would not have done in that game but I wonder if he addressed a similar Cyprus post match performance debriefing with the team with a similar intensity that Stan has done.
After the first set of results in September we had no chance of qualifying anyway. How did we become 4th seeds?.
Now there's a rather tough combination of circumstances which includes the Czechs. I'm curious to see if there's any evidence of the effect of Stan's mettle on the team.

[FarBeag]

Awful news. :D Kenny, O'Brien and Ireland all doubtful for Wednesday with various injuries. (Sky sports News)

[concanta]

team then should be


Henderson

Finnan
McShane
O’Shea
Kilbane

McGeady
Andy Reid
Douglas
Duff

Keane

Doyle

[eirebhoy]

Decent team. Both central midfielders can tackle while Reid is one of our best passers. With Reid usually playing as a left winger I think most people would put him down as an attacking player but I think he has the sense to know when to stay back or go forward. He's an intelligient player and a much better option than Kilbane. Douglas will run himself down to the ground.

[Dr. Ogba]

Bring Breen back, Connolly, probably Tabb and hopefully McCarthy



Oh please, for the love of God, stop going on about Connolly!!!!! :eek:

Although things are going so bad now that I probably would welcome Breen back with open arms!!!

[theworm2345]

Oh please, for the love of God, stop going on about Connolly!!!!! :eek:
Not going to happen, sorry. Come on, hes no worse than Morrison or Lee. Yes, he got sent off against Belgium, 9years ago. Richard Dunne got sent off 2 days ago as well. I seem to recall Drogba getting sent off in the Champions League against Barcelona 2 years ago as well. Yes, he missed a penalty, but who the **** hasn't? Henry, Pele, Shevchenko, DROGBA, Maradona, have all missed penalties, they just werent unfortunate enough to have missed at the time he did. Seems to be hes just unlucky. The rest of the time, he really has not been too bad


Although things are going so bad now that I probably would welcome Breen back with open arms!!!
Even if they weren't going bad, Breen would be equal or better to all of the defense we have right now (besides maybe Finnan, probably equal to a fully fit Harte)

[Over the post]

I reckon Killer will be moved to left back, JohnO into centre back, two from Reid, Ireland and Quinn in centre mid and Doyle in for Morrison if fit. There's not much else than can realistically be done. I don't reckon throwing lads like McShane, StLedger or Kelly into the midst of a team in crisis facing strong opposition will do them or the team any good.

The Czech game must be seen as a damage limitation exercise and a chance for some of the underperformers (i.e. everyone) to claw back some respect in the eyes of the fans.

[keenanboy]

Would be very interested to see a full EL selection taking on the Czechs. And before anyone starts I'm not a regular EL fan I'm just making a point that passion and committment go a long way in compensating for other shortfalls. I don't think an EL 11 would have even lost in Cyprus.

That aside I think it was nuts that no-one was hauled off at half time last Saturday. O'Shea, Kilbane and Clinton would have been subbed if I were in charge, but sure ah well, who am I? I mean its not like I have any experience is it....;)

[thegit]

Henderson

Finnan McShane O'Shea Kilbane/Harte
McGeady McPhail Ireland Carsley Duff

Keane

Maybe using Quinn if Ireland isn't up to it.
S**t we're gonna be trashed, how did it get this bad Dunne really should have been aware of what he was up to in Cyprus.