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finlma
07/10/2006, 7:13 PM
Dispicable - to quote Dunphy "I'm embarrassed to be Irish".

Players, Stan, FAI hang your heads in shame. Come out of that dressing room and apologise to us.

lim abroad
07/10/2006, 7:15 PM
i thought before the game that it would be tough maybe 1 or 2 nil to ireland,can't believe what i just saw,i just feel sick!!!

DeNiro
07/10/2006, 7:17 PM
Seriously though people should stay away from the Czech game. Delaney and his cronies only speak in euros, if they don't get them then they'll have to start listening. If the next two games have poor attendances they'll be in bother for Croke Park. It's not on. It's heartbreaking looking at that tonight. It's not on really. To say 111 people are logged into this forum says it all. I remember at the Swiss game in 2002 there were handouts to bring Roy back. How about doing the same to get rid of Staunton?

Qwerty
07/10/2006, 7:17 PM
Joe Kinnear may the guy at least in the short term. Not sure if he would be still interested.

as_i_say
07/10/2006, 7:17 PM
in europe these days nearly any team can beat any other team. cyprus beat spain 3-2 at home in a qualifier a few years back and spain beat them 8-0 in the return in spain. however ive been told by a mate that we didnt have one single shot on target in the second half.

maybe the players just dont care any more.

rodoman
07/10/2006, 7:19 PM
I was embarrassed watching it, disgraceful is a polite word for that performance. I could understand if the 2-5 result was against someone like Germany, but Cyprus !! They were by far the better team, and that says a lot, from the top of the fai, manager, team, should be ashamed of themselves. Only our f.a. would appoint a manager who has absolutley no experience, and try and con the supporters telling us it's about heart, pride, etc.

Soko
07/10/2006, 7:20 PM
Cowards hiding in their dressing room. Come out and try to let us fathom how you let a nation down and digraced everyone with an Irish passport. I'm shocked and appalled to have this team of wasters, from hieracrchy to division 2 subs, representing our country in European competition.

We just lost 5-2 to Cyprus. I'm not an old age warrior but I hope the youth of today do not see this an think its not an abberation. I feel ill

GuisaSaigon
07/10/2006, 7:20 PM
Disgraceful performance Staunton must go now.He should stop hiding, be a man, do an interview, apologize and resign.

thejollyrodger
07/10/2006, 7:21 PM
the way i see it is... we were never going to qualify for this campaign.... even the media were saying it after the germany game... the qualifying campaign is well and truely over.

dancinpants
07/10/2006, 7:23 PM
Stans not up to the job obviously, but it doesn't help his cause when ye have 11 sacks of sh!t runnin' around the pitch for ye.

Qwerty
07/10/2006, 7:24 PM
Bet you feel stupid now

No, why? Asking people to sign a petition after only a 1-0 defeat away to Germany was silly.

Today's debacle of a 5-2 loss to Cyprus was not predicted or predictable by anyone, to suggest otherwise is stupid. I've criticized Stan on the forum for his behavior before today but he deserved his chance, but not after todays game.

BobbyHans
07/10/2006, 7:24 PM
In Darwin, Oz, my mate just text me the score feel physically sick, didn't believe it at first. Time for a complete overhaul, this can't go on. Stan a great player, but honest lads how can we have the walstall assistant manager as our boss. the fai (as usual) picked a cheap and cost effective alternative, no vision, no courage, haven't learnt their lesson, too feckin tight!!

good night god bless!

as_i_say
07/10/2006, 7:26 PM
yes but at least we might salvage some pride or something in the rest of the games if staunton goes. i have never wanted an irish team to lose for any reason but if ewe get a battling draw against the czechs it could well give stan more time in the job. also with dunne injured and andy o briens confidence shot to sh it i expect a brutal defeat on wednesday.

btw does anyone actually think stan will get sacked if we lose to czechs?? i mean really???

theworm2345
07/10/2006, 7:26 PM
Mick McCarthy got sacked after loosing the first two qualifying games last time round AND on the back of a decent world cup! Now, not that i'm a McCarthy lover or Staunton hater but why the double standards? Staunton out please!

From what I understand McCarthy's sacking had to do with Roy Keane as well, and the effort to get him back

soccerc
07/10/2006, 7:28 PM
From what I understand McCarthy's sacking had to do with Roy Keane as well, and the effort to get him back


No it didn't

rodoman
07/10/2006, 7:29 PM
Spain's defeat to Cyprus was like our draw with Liechtenstein, a blip, and like the beatles would never happen again. San Marino for f***s sake will believe they can get a result against us now.
Delaney i agree is more interested in the euros than anything else, and rather than the result tonight, he'll be bricking it because of the money aspect. Let's see now if they will be looking for the 80 euros for a seat at Croke Park !!!!!!

If he gave a s***e about progressing Irish Soccer he would have forked out a few more hundred thousand and gone for a REAL manager, someone who has a personality, experience, and some pedigree, just because Staunton once upon a time wore the green jersey don't mean he can manage them. If that was the case he could have anyone who ever posted on this forum.

theworm2345
07/10/2006, 7:33 PM
No it didn't
Thats not what the documentary I saw said

soccerc
07/10/2006, 7:33 PM
Delaney i agree is more interested in the euros than anything else, and rather than the result tonight, he'll be bricking it because of the money aspect. Let's see now if they will be looking for the 80 euros for a seat at Croke Park !!!!!!



Nail on head there. I am aware already of concerns that we will not fill Croker and the financial implications of that.

pete
07/10/2006, 7:34 PM
If he gave a s***e about progressing Irish Soccer he would have forked out a few more hundred thousand and gone for a REAL manager, someone who has a personality, experience, and some pedigree, just because Staunton once upon a time wore the green jersey don't mean he can manage them.

Bobby Robson was to be paid 250k a year to do something so if combined his wage with Stans could have afford a good manager. I don't see finances an issue unless you looking at the very top end.

FFS we just needed someone who had actually managed something before. Even kids football would have done. The FAI learnt nothing from McCarthy who took 3 years to figure out what he was doing & wasn't too bad from then on. Staunton has now been given a 4 year contract which was utter stupidity - any search on this forum will see many people highlighting that.

Staunton should go but if Delaney sacks him how does he explain after his 2010 World Cup team building comments?

Fergie's Son
07/10/2006, 7:34 PM
He should go now.

Dunne will be suspended for the next game due to the red card.

We have no decent cover at CB. Again, Staunton makes the wrong choices at the wrong time.

Resign.

Now.

samabu92
07/10/2006, 7:35 PM
christ, what a pathetic performance:mad: :mad: :mad: ..never seen so many fans leaving early at away game..McGeady and Dunne got applauded when they departed the field..O Shea got serious booing every time he touched ball after Cyprus 5th goal.

mistergreen
07/10/2006, 7:38 PM
The Manager takes responsibility.
Delaney must take responsibility

But the players must also take responsibility
We never really score many goals but we did not normally concede them either - good defence was always a hallmark of an Irish side
Irish Defence tonight
O'Shea's performance - a disgrace
Finnan - a disgrace
No excuse from these two

O'Brien - what can you say!
Richard Dunne - tried at least
In his failure to sort out the defence Staunton has shown his lack of experience as a manager.

Kerr - even if he was a bore - in retrospect - with these players was doing an OK job. Because everyone thinks that we are Brazil we dump him and put all our money on a rank outsider.

At this point - dumping Staunton - to replace him with who?
Who would take the job? We do not have the players.

Condex
07/10/2006, 7:42 PM
At this point - dumping Staunton - to replace him with who?
Who would take the job? We do not have the players.

We may not have great players but they can be organised, and they should be
as good as say Scotland...

Where are those people who have been saying what a great player Robbie Keane is, world class some reckoned. I would not care if he played again for Ireland...

DeNiro
07/10/2006, 7:42 PM
christ, what a pathetic performance:mad: :mad: :mad: ..never seen so many fans leaving early at away game..McGeady and Dunne got applauded when they departed the field..O Shea got serious booing every time he touched ball after Cyprus 5th goal.

Sambu you sound like writing it from Cyprus! If so, was there any show of anger from fans towards manager or players outside the ground at the end?

tetsujin1979
07/10/2006, 7:49 PM
Kenny - not his fault, but did little to no organisation

O'Shea - rubbish
O'Brien - at least 3 of the goals were his fault
Dunne - tried his best
Finnan - made one serious error that I can remember

Duff - worked hard but marked out of it. AGAIN
Ireland - took his goal well but did little of note after that
Kilbane - I honestly don't remember him touching the ball in the 2nd half until about the 70th minute
McGeady - worked hard, must be thinking "tonight I could have beaten France, instead I chose to lose to Cyprus"

Keane - nothing of note
Morrison - less

Lee - too late
Alan O'Brien - feel sorry for him, going to take some of the heat for this, not his fault he got called into the worst Ireland team in living memory
Douglas - did nothing to shake up the midfield.

And it's going to get worse, Holland took the foot off the gas at 4-0 because it was a friendly, the Czechs will not be so forgiving.

Feech
07/10/2006, 7:49 PM
Why is everyone so surprised by the decline?

Ireland are now reaping the whirlwind of decades of neglect at grassroots but more especially national league level.

Difference now is that sending faxes to British clubs now full of imports from Africa etc appealing for people to declare for Ireland is not going to paper up the cracks caused by their criminal neglect and lack of vision for the game in Ireland.

The FAI have squandered the windfall they mostly accumulated in the 90s.

Just like post 1950s Irish soccer will once again be left to the hardcore while the FAI continue to majorly **** up everything they touch.

History repeating itself, this time as farce......

scousedub
07/10/2006, 7:50 PM
was there last year and that was bad,but to concede 5 goals against a team like Cyprus says it all. No excuses will do.Have not missed a home game in 20 years but seriously thinkin of giving up my tickets for weds

backstothewall
07/10/2006, 7:54 PM
The north are about to draw with Denmark, and we are perilously close to being below them in the world

gustavo
07/10/2006, 7:55 PM
Fair play to them i say , at least they have a manager who has a clue.

The Swordsman
07/10/2006, 7:58 PM
Mistergreen:
That defence have played together many times before - why should they need sorting out? :confused:

Most of the players aren't good enough and some of those who are don't have enough pride in the jersey - they are just happy to spend their inflated premiership wages.

I really can't see how it is going to be different for any manager.:mad:

No matter how things were going, I have never before not looked forward to going to Lansdowne, but I've lost all interest in Wednesday night.

Perhaps I'll wake up shortly and discover that this has been a bad dream.

backstothewall
07/10/2006, 7:59 PM
Apparently he wants a new job......

sligoman
07/10/2006, 8:02 PM
Sign him up, Sanchez would be good.

pete
07/10/2006, 8:02 PM
For some time now the irish team has been picked on what team you play for. If you play in the Permiership you will usually be in the squad and team.

rodoman
07/10/2006, 8:03 PM
was there last year and that was bad,

you can write that down, was there meself, and the only thing that stopped them from being booed at halftime was the Elliot goal. I agree with the post grass roots level neglected, the current buy when ye can policy in the premiership don't help either, but as it was said earlier, organisation is key. Looks like Staunton can't manage a bowel movement, has never managed a team, and certainly can't organise.
The fai have f88ked themselves up, stuck with him, and even if they did get rid of them you'd want to be a headaball to take the job whatever the shillings they offered.
Delaney will say they are going to stick with him as he's part of the 4-8year plan,

samabu92
07/10/2006, 8:13 PM
Sambu you sound like writing it from Cyprus! If so, was there any show of anger from fans towards manager or players outside the ground at the end?

from first 10 minutes there was anger shown..players all slaughtered except mcgeady and dunne

The Bit O'Red
07/10/2006, 8:14 PM
Were they booed tonite? Should have been.

sligoman
07/10/2006, 8:16 PM
Were they booed tonite? Should have been.afaik, Andy O'Brien was booed when he was been substituted...

Fear Manach
07/10/2006, 8:17 PM
Stauntons Quote on RTE:-

"We`ve got to pick ourselves up and get it right"

mistergreen
07/10/2006, 8:21 PM
Fair dues Scotland. Shows what a good manager can do.
(Wonder if McGeady has any regrets)

Question?
How far back does one need to go to find a WORSE result than tonight?

DeNiro
07/10/2006, 8:24 PM
Yeh just saw staunton's wise words on RTE. Great philosophy indeed. Why didn't Robbie Keane do it as captain. He's probably to busy buying rounds of drinks for the lads like what was going on in Germany.

popmart
07/10/2006, 8:24 PM
Worst night in Irish Football history. Staunton must go. Feel sorry for him as its not his fault he was appointed. Well out of his depth, farsical stuff really. Delaney is the big problem. How do you get rid of him? Headline on aertel says it all, "Irish lucky to lose 5-2 to cyprus":(

Qwerty
07/10/2006, 8:24 PM
Tonight is the worst result ever for Ireland. And Cyprus' best.

Guardian:

Cyprus crush Ireland for greatest ever success

By Lakis Avraamides
NICOSIA, Oct 7 (Reuters) - Cyprus, so often the whipping boys of international soccer, handed out a hiding of their own on Saturday when they crushed Ireland 5-2 for the greatest international victory in their long history.
It was Cyprus's most emphatic victory since they began playing competitive soccer in 1960, and was achieved after going a goal behind after only eight minutes of this Euro 2008 Group D qualifier.

billybunter
07/10/2006, 8:27 PM
fair play to the worm. he put his thoughts out there prior to the game, and now the bandwagon is rolling. i did not agree with stan getting the job (he's to hard on the oul ears to listen to). get aldo in, or kevin moran, or ray houghton - someone with a pair of balls, and a bit of character. at least we know they'll give it a shot.

Billy Lord
07/10/2006, 8:30 PM
A great night for Irish football because it offers us chance to look at th way we do things. Maybe now the muppets in Merrion Square and the Ole heads in their green wigs and stupid hats will realise that, if we don't build the game up at home, the national squad is doomed unless the Brits do us a favour and develop our players for us.
Holland only began to progress when their domestic game was taken seriously. It's the only way forward, but who really cares enough to make it happen?
Blaming Staunton for what's been coming for years is pathetic scapegoating. Look in the mirror, you fools!

DeNiro
07/10/2006, 8:31 PM
Exactly. I can't understand why they went for Staunton over any other ex-Irish player that had managerial experience. Can anyone remember did they interview anyone else. I remember they bypassed Aldridge and never asked him for interview!

dfx-
07/10/2006, 8:31 PM
"Irish lucky to lose 5-2 to cyprus"

If I just woke up and saw that, I'd go to the Errortel thread.......but I am wide awake for hours and it happened

Noelys Guitar
07/10/2006, 8:43 PM
Apologists for the FAI, Hand and now Staunton. Believe me there is nothing new here. I posted 2 weeks ago about Staunton and look at the reaction then. He has proven himself to be the WORST Irish manager of all time. Quite incredible. An absolute disgrace. I am sick. I don't want to hear the apologists go on about the lack of talent in the squad ( they used to state this at the end of the Hand era when we had got beaten 4-1 at home by Denmark). Staunton rsign now (which of course he won't do. Like kerr who else would give him a jo?. Sad state of affairs.

pete
07/10/2006, 8:46 PM
Match Stats:
Goals: Cyprus 5 Ireland 2
Shots: 23 v 11
On target: 14 v 6

Thunderblaster
07/10/2006, 8:49 PM
It was the most humiliating, gutless ninety minutes I ever saw from Ireland. The country is embarrassed and surely is our President who was at the game. The hacks will have a field day and the FAI will have to look very seriously at the direction of the senior game. Sacking Kerr was a grave mistake and as it transpired, a fatal mistake. An overreaction to Ireland finishing fourth in the World Cup qualifiers on the basis on only one defeat to France. Kerr may have his critics but Cyprus never scored five with him in charge. As Liam Brady pointed out on The Star, the real problems lie with our domestic club underage structure.:ball:
The Curse of TV3 that haunted us during the Euro 2000 qualifying campaign has come back to haunt us!!:eek: :D

Stuttgart88
07/10/2006, 8:52 PM
Where does one even start? Ultimately it's not Staunton's fault. He didn't appoint hinself. The buck stops with Delaney, at least on an individual level.

But it goes beyond that. Do we as a country even deserve a decent football team? We're the parasites of world football. We send our kinds abroad from a young age, depriving many of a decent education, to play football in an overrated, morally bankrupt from top to bottom league system. Like the Irish BNP councillors popping up in the East End, the moral corruption is speading. Look at the performances our 'stars' put in this evening and tell me that we haven't all been cheated.

Our media is obsessed by English football & despite its perpetual failure to make any impact on the international stage we set it up as the ultimate football showcase.

Those individuals who can afford to invest large amounts in football prefer to do so in some second rate backwater in the UK than at home. It'd probably take only about 20 of the newly rich to sell their 3rd or 4th properties to build an academy that could be the pride of any country in Europe.

This is only the start of what I'd like to say. Those of us who care deply about our team & the thousands who invest their time with **** all resources up and down the country have been cheated by those in whom we invest our faith.

I think anyone upset by tonight's result should look at himself & ask if he's part of the problem, even in only the smallest way.

Worst night I can ever recall as a football fan.