View Full Version : Carr Withdraws, Doyle a doubt
drinkfeckarse
04/10/2006, 3:09 PM
aye coz iced water won't thin it at all....the sea and all it's pollutants are the only thing that can somehow do that. C'mon man.
NeilMcD
04/10/2006, 3:22 PM
I never said Iced water wont thin it. YOu are asking a question and both Stuttgart are trying to give you an answer and yet you are responding in sarcy agressive tones. I am only trying to help you with the question you pose.
drinkfeckarse
04/10/2006, 3:37 PM
I never said Iced water wont thin it. YOu are asking a question and both Stuttgart are trying to give you an answer and yet you are responding in sarcy agressive tones. I am only trying to help you with the question you pose.
:rolleyes: Chill Neil, nobody is being aggressive. It's hardly an issue more to the point.
All I said was that I failed to see the difference with dipping your foot in the sea or a bucket of iced water/bath for a non wound injury. You then said the sea has this mysterious healing power. Stuttgart provided someone's blog and I said it sounded like an old wife's tale. None of us are right, none of us are wrong. It was just a little side issue.
Don't take things so seriously.
Stuttgart88
04/10/2006, 3:43 PM
I was only taking the p1ss when I posted the blog, but I respect Kerr's belief. Based on absolutely zero scientific evidence!
drinkfeckarse
04/10/2006, 3:53 PM
I knew that Stutts and your smiley should have told anybody else too!
Over the post
04/10/2006, 4:13 PM
Salt acts as an anti-inflammatory too, hence the sea's mysterious powers. But most importantly we're a rugged island race and heading into the waves comes to us far more naturally that relying on new-fangled remedies involving buckets and ice.
eirebhoy
04/10/2006, 7:19 PM
Changing the subject from Portmarnock beach for a sec. ;) On the topic of withdrawals, Sionko and Galasek are out for the Czechs. Sionko is a right winger off Rangers who scored 2 and set up the other 3 of the Czech's 5 goals so far. Galasek is their holding midfielder. They both started the Slovakia match.
shakermaker1982
05/10/2006, 6:54 AM
We just need Cech and Koller to go down with something now....!!!
Stuttgart88
05/10/2006, 7:36 AM
Just reading about Terry Dixon in The Irish Times. Anyone else reckon Staunton's a jinx? It started with Robson's brain tumour and seems to have gathered pace since then. Anybody know a good witch doctor?
Changing the subject from Portmarnock beach for a sec. ;) On the topic of withdrawals, Sionko and Galasek are out for the Czechs. Sionko is a right winger off Rangers who scored 2 and set up the other 3 of the Czech's 5 goals so far. Galasek is their holding midfielder. They both started the Slovakia match.
Glad to hear we're not the only ones getting hit with injuries. That Sionko guy had a very good guy in Slovakia, might mean a weaker player on their right hand side........come on duffer!
NeilMcD
05/10/2006, 9:00 AM
That Sionko guy had a very good guy in Slovakia,
Do you know something we dont about Sionkos post match activities.
Jerry The Saint
05/10/2006, 10:09 AM
The thing I can't understand is why they don't just get Mick Byrne to use his magic sponge on Doyle's injury. Surely this is the main reason he was brought back! :)
shakermaker1982
05/10/2006, 1:22 PM
Steve Staunton feels Kevin Doyle is now unlikely to play in Republic of Ireland's Euro 2008 qualifier against Cyprus.
The Reading striker is battling to shake off an ankle strain in time to feature in Saturday's game in Nicosia.
Though Doyle is making steady progress from the knock, he has been unable to train fully this week and will also sit out Friday's session.
Ireland coach Staunton admits the 23-year-old is getting better, but feels that if he were to play against Cyprus, he would miss next Wednesday's clash with Czech Republic.
"Kevin Doyle is the same as yesterday and he is going to sit out tomorrow as well," Staunton told Sky Sports News.
"We'll see how he is and give him every opportunity to be fit for Saturday. If he's not, he's got every chance to be ready for Wednesday.
"On Saturday, it's looking like he'll probably not (play). He is improving vastly every day and I am going to give him every chance.
"On the other side of the coin, if he does play on Saturday, there is every chance he won't play on Wednesday."
Staunton is toying with alternatives to partner Robbie Keane in attack, if Doyle is unfit, with Clinton Morrison and Damien Duff among the options.
He added: "Clinton's played there a few times before. He will get hold of it, he's got an eye for goal and he has looked sharp in training.
"I would have no problem with him, or big Alan (Lee), to come in, or Damien might play up there with Robbie. We've got options."
Liam Miller also skipped training on Thursday with a slight foot injury, but Staunton expects the Sunderland midfielder to be available for the Cyprus game.
Staunton concluded: "Liam Miller has a slight wee strain underneath his foot. It's nothing major and he'll be training tomorrow."
skysports.com
Looks like it's Clinton up front with Keano. ******.
irishfan86
05/10/2006, 1:30 PM
Don't be so dramatic, Clinton scored some crucial goals for us in this past qualifying campaign.
He should have no problems against the likes of Cyprus.
I just hope Staunton has the sense to leave Duff out on the wing instead of using him up front.
A pairing of Keane and Duff up front would be horribly ineffective in my opinion.
NeilMcD
05/10/2006, 1:32 PM
Yeah I agree Morrisson upfront is not a disaster he is not in form as much as doyle is and not as clever a player but he is well able to get a goal or 2 against them as he has done it before. Doyle is more important kept for Wednesday if there is any doubt in my view.
eirebhoy
05/10/2006, 1:34 PM
Obviosly it's a blow not to have Doyle for this game but I'm sure Morrison will go out and give his all to try and earn a place in the team. The Keane and Morrison partnership was pretty decent anyway. Just looking at the team that beat Cyprus 3-0 a couple of years ago:
Given, Carr, O'Brien, Cunningham, O'Shea, Kilbane, Kavanagh, Andy Reid, Duff, Keane, Morrison.
The difference for this game will be Kenny for Given, Finnan for Carr, Dunne for Cunningham, someone for Kavanagh, McGeady for A.Reid.
Are we stronger or weaker for Saturday?
irishfan86
05/10/2006, 1:39 PM
Are we stronger or weaker for Saturday?
I'd say it's much the same.
Kenny isn't as good as Given but I doubt goaltending will play a huge factor in this match. It will come down to our ability or lack of ability to score.
I rate Dunne higher than Cunningham was back then.
Andy Reid and McGeady are both around the same level in my estimation.
Finnan is an upgrade on Carr.
Liam Miller or Douglas are able replacements for Kavanagh.
Duff may not be as good now as he was then, which is cause for concern. But if he can't work his magic against the Cypriots then we are well screwed anyway.
Has anyone seen a few of Millers performances for Sunderland? How has he being doing, i heard in his first few games he was putting in MOM performances, havent heard alot lately though
You alot are making Cyprus out to be rubbish, but they aren't.The Slovakia match was a blip.
gustavo
05/10/2006, 5:26 PM
I posted this elsewhere but
We dont know how good we are yet thats the way i look at it, We will know a lot more this time next week, Sure Stan has made a few baffling decisions but lets give him the benefit of the doubt and see where we stand after this series of games.
In a funny kind of way playing Morrison on Saturday and Doyle on Wednesday might work out because Clinton has a lot more International experience which will be useful away from home. Home games generally are 'easier' for newer less experienced players to play in because of the crowd and travelling etc
shakermaker1982
05/10/2006, 7:35 PM
Clinton's a decent player and does try but he hasn't been getting game time at all this season and like O'Brien will not be match sharp. That's why I'm not optimistic about the pairing - at least Doyle has played in all his PL matches and been grabbing goals.
I'll be happy with a 1 nil at present, 3 points is essential.
theworm2345
05/10/2006, 8:01 PM
Long, Hunt, Clarke, Connolly, or Murphy
What the **** is wrong with you Staunton
gustavo
06/10/2006, 12:50 AM
I wouldnt have at least 3 of those you mentiond in the squad.
theworm2345
06/10/2006, 1:55 AM
I wouldnt have at least 3 of those you mentiond in the squad.
and the other 2? What the hell is the point in not having at least 1 of them when you only have 2+5/6 of a striker available (Morrison has a thigh injury, though he should be fine). Whats the point in sacrificing Duff's ability in the midfield for a striker we could have for no cost more than a plane ticket to Nicosia?
gustavo
06/10/2006, 7:03 AM
Fair enough but i dont think Long Hunt (im presuming the Reading guy) and Murphy are ready or indeed deserving for international football yet .
ifk101
06/10/2006, 7:36 AM
Long, Hunt, Clarke, Connolly, or Murphy
What the **** is wrong with you Staunton
Long and Clarke aren't international standard, just yet. They don't have a case for a full international call-up either as neither of them are first-choice players at their respective clubs.
Hunt is not international standard and never will be.
Connolly has had his chance, it's time to move on.
Murphy didn't set the LOI alight when he was with Waterford - and, honestly, he hasn't improved that much at Sunderland to jusify a call-up. We have a long list of players in that position that are better than Murphy.
Dr. Ogba
06/10/2006, 8:00 AM
Lads I think its about time to stiop bitching and moaning about Stan's selections for the squad and get behind the lads. Bar the Carsley debacle (and McPhail) I can honestly say that its the best we have at the moment and providing he picks the right team I think we can get something out of both matches!
And sure when he picks the next squad we can start the bitching all over again! :)
Billsthoughts
06/10/2006, 11:36 AM
Yeah agree that the only slightly controversial decision is leaving out carsley. the rest are much of a muchness. his team selection against germany was disappointing so lets hope he changes things about there. i.e. no kilbane and no o shea. have never remembered a more miserable atmosphere in the run up to a match. everyone ya talk to is totally pessimistic. Well done John Delaney for bringing the "Passion" back to Irish football. You complete ****ing ******.:mad:
OwlsFan
06/10/2006, 12:16 PM
Has anyone seen a few of Millers performances for Sunderland? How has he being doing, i heard in his first few games he was putting in MOM performances, havent heard alot lately though
He only came on as a last minute sub against Wednesday last Saturday and almost gave away a goal :eek:
NeilMcD
06/10/2006, 12:18 PM
Before that I think he has been playing quite well for them . Keane rested him or dropped him for that whichever way you wanna look at it.
theworm2345
06/10/2006, 12:26 PM
Long and Clarke aren't international standard, just yet. They don't have a case for a full international call-up either as neither of them are first-choice players at their respective clubs.
Hunt is not international standard and never will be.
Connolly has had his chance, it's time to move on.
Murphy didn't set the LOI alight when he was with Waterford - and, honestly, he hasn't improved that much at Sunderland to jusify a call-up. We have a long list of players in that position that are better than Murphy.
Fine then, but call up someone (maybe Jason Byrne or Glen Crowe). By the way, I wont move on with Connolly till he has retired
pineapple stu
06/10/2006, 12:31 PM
Murphy didn't set the LOI alight when he was with Waterford - and, honestly, he hasn't improved that much at Sunderland to jusify a call-up. We have a long list of players in that position that are better than Murphy.
Didn't he score 20 goals one season when Waterford got to the Cup Final? Byrne and Crowe have been called up for similar feats. Murphy seems to be getting his game now with Sunderland and has scored a couple. That's more than others in the squad have done this season e.g. the two O'Briens, St Ledger (?), etc.
Stuttgart88
06/10/2006, 12:46 PM
I actually think Murphy was unlcky not to be called up. However, my guess is that he thinks Lee is there as the tall option. Murphy only played 74 mins last week on his return from injury. It's not unfeasible that given Sunderland's mounting injury problems it was agreed he wouldn't travel.
Murphy will do well for Ireland in the future. I think his game is definitely improving.
pineapple stu
06/10/2006, 12:49 PM
He's come a long way from when McCarthy scouted him for Sunderland and Tony McDonnell had him in his pocket for 90 minutes in Belfield...!
NeilMcD
06/10/2006, 1:11 PM
Lads some people seem to be arguing for stikers inclusions ahead of defenders. They are not competing for the same spots. St Ledger does not get in ahead of Murphy etc. A squad is about having different types of players etc. As Stuttgart pointed out Murphy and Byrnes competition is Alan Lee.
inexile
06/10/2006, 1:25 PM
quick question lads where is the czech game on weds?
NeilMcD
06/10/2006, 1:58 PM
Lansdowne Road.
Stuttgart88
06/10/2006, 2:02 PM
quick question lads where is the czech game on weds?
Where exactly are you in exile? Pluto? :)
RogerMilla
06/10/2006, 2:06 PM
in exile you better just be back from a year long tour in iraq!!
DmanDmythDledge
06/10/2006, 4:25 PM
and the other 2? What the hell is the point in not having at least 1 of them when you only have 2+5/6 of a striker available (Morrison has a thigh injury, though he should be fine). Whats the point in sacrificing Duff's ability in the midfield for a striker we could have for no cost more than a plane ticket to Nicosia?
He couldn't possibly be planning Duff upfront and O'Brien on the left? Or even Kilbane?:eek:
He's come a long way from when McCarthy scouted him for Sunderland and Tony McDonnell had him in his pocket for 90 minutes in Belfield...!
I had a feeling you would mention that.:p
theworm2345
06/10/2006, 6:11 PM
He couldn't possibly be planning Duff upfront and O'Brien on the left? Or even Kilbane?:eek:
Dont know about the other 2, but he definitly mentioned possibly playing Duff upfront
inexile
07/10/2006, 3:50 AM
Where exactly are you in exile? Pluto? :)
excuse my ignorance gents, just thought lansdowne wasn't hosting anymote games, it only clicked with me when i realised there was rugby on there tonight, apologies!!!!
theworm2345
07/10/2006, 2:33 PM
excuse my ignorance gents, just thought lansdowne wasn't hosting anymote games, it only clicked with me when i realised there was rugby on there tonight, apologies!!!!
They wont play in Lansdowne anymore after San Marino this year
Paddy Garcia
07/10/2006, 2:42 PM
They wont play in Lansdowne anymore after San Marino this year
I hope they play there on Wednesday.;)
theworm2345
07/10/2006, 2:47 PM
I hope they play there on Wednesday.;)
I never said they wouldnt, I said the last match was San Marino, not the only match
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