View Full Version : FAI EGM - Merger
harpskid
27/09/2006, 12:27 PM
This coming Saturday
An Extraordinary General Meeting of the Football Association of Ireland will take place on Saturday, September 30, in Cahir House Hotel, Co Tipperary, to vote on the proposed merger between the association and the Eircom League. The meeting commences at 12noon
harpskid
27/09/2006, 12:35 PM
Sorry should have been EGM - thought that would've been obvious :rolleyes:
Can a mod edit that...
EMG? Who are they?
They make pickups for electric guitars. See here- http://www.emginc.com/
The FAI are going to put them in charge of the league, just for a giggle.
I'd bet they won't feck it up any worse than the clubs do!
dcfcsteve
27/09/2006, 12:49 PM
Things might start to pick up around here then, eh - ehhh !?!???
Taxi.....!
Drumcondra Red
27/09/2006, 12:52 PM
Things might start to pick up around here then, eh - ehhh !?!???
Taxi.....!
Jaysus, never mind the taxi I'll just give you a lift!
soccerc
27/09/2006, 12:59 PM
Jaysus, never mind the taxi I'll just give you a lift!
Careful there Red, that could be a bridge too far as Steve can be highly strung!
Schumi
27/09/2006, 1:03 PM
No need to fret, he'll be fine.
sonofstan
27/09/2006, 1:19 PM
Should generate some feedback anyway
Just wanted to drop in a note...
Strabane_Harp
27/09/2006, 1:48 PM
*smashes guitar over thread*
cheifo
27/09/2006, 1:59 PM
"They were wild times man!,wild times"
Anyway...
Any chance of this being scuppered
Any chance of this being scuppered
Was just thinking it'd be some craic if the clubs voted it down at this stage!
Doubt that'll happen though, the clubs are too weak to resist Delaney's will even if they wanted to.
Schumi
27/09/2006, 2:11 PM
Any chance of this being scuppered
Doubt it. (Nearly) Everyone voted for it the last time, I doubt there'll be any changes.
soccerc
27/09/2006, 2:14 PM
Anyway...
Any chance of this being scuppered
No the FAI have enough votes even if all 21 clubs about turned and voted no.
It's not the eL voting this time but the FAI Council.
DmanDmythDledge
27/09/2006, 2:27 PM
Doubt it. (Nearly) Everyone voted for it the last time, I doubt there'll be any changes.
Will the FAI be able to blackmail us into voting yes again?
dublinred
27/09/2006, 2:36 PM
I think UCD should be barred from the top division as they isn't a decent pub beside the ground , would also like to see Galway, Athlone and Harps promoted as it would be a handy few points.
1 9 2 8
27/09/2006, 3:08 PM
No decent pub beside Galways ground either but it wouldn't be far to travel to pick up a few easy points
BohsPartisan
27/09/2006, 3:13 PM
I think UCD should be barred from the top division as they isn't a decent pub beside the ground , would also like to see Galway, Athlone and Harps promoted as it would be a handy few points.
When they move to the bowl there'll be a few decent pubs. Used to like Longs before it was done up.
will they be passive or active?
Passive, obviously. Active management of the league would give us all heart attacks!
Any chance of a decision on how many teams willl be in the whole league next season 20 or 22?.
Or do you think they might adopt a wait and see approach (see if anyone folds at the seasons end)?
I think basically they intend to continue with 21.
I can't see them kick anyone out and if they were bringing a team in they'd need to have made it known by now.
Doubt they will kick out a team myself.
But if they were to invite a team at this stage or even at the end of the season it would be the season after the next before they would be up to standard unless the facilities already exist.
So will it be a 9 team division one next season?
Yeah, so there'll be 4 weekends off for each team, bit of a disaster really. The FAI should have at least invited applications (maybe they still will) and if none where good enough then so be it- but why not give the non-league clubs at least a chance to try?
They probably will invite applications but whether anyone will apply and when the FAI intend on doing it will be interesting.
The new A league will have be open soon for applications for non-league teams as well so maybe they will try and coax any non league interested in joining this, maybe like one of the teams participating in the Under-21 league into Division One.
But have no idea when they are going to invite applications for this either.
Hopefully these kind of issues will be on their agenda
Billy Lord
27/09/2006, 9:22 PM
If the FAI are taking the new league seriously :eek:, now's the time to make the club total 20, 22 or even 24. But are there three new takers available for an even two dozen?
If anything, a 20-team league makes more sense, with two divisions of ten, playing each other four times. Bohs should obviously be sacrificed for the greater good.:cool:
In fairness, it's not an easy choice as most non-league clubs either don't care or can't afford EL membership.
Two divisions of 12 would be ideal IMO, FAI should give some incentive to those interested in joining like maybe waivering the membership fees for example until the new clubs are on their feet.
Membership fee is 5,000 for A championship and think it is the same for Division 1
soccerc
27/09/2006, 10:01 PM
Two divisions of 12 would be ideal IMO, FAI should give some incentive to those interested in joining like maybe waivering the membership fees for example until the new clubs are on their feet.
Membership fee is 5,000 for A championship and think it is the same for Division 1
€5000 would be the least of the new entrants worries (if they can find clubs willling to sacrifice their souls).
Even an all amateur club would incur costs of not less than €100,000 plus their ground would have to meet minimum UEFA Licencing standards.
NY Hoop
28/09/2006, 10:19 AM
If the FAI are taking the new league seriously :eek:, now's the time to make the club total 20, 22 or even 24. But are there three new takers available for an even two dozen?
If anything, a 20-team league makes more sense, with two divisions of ten, playing each other four times. Bohs should obviously be sacrificed for the greater good.:cool:
In fairness, it's not an easy choice as most non-league clubs either don't care or can't afford EL membership.
100& spot on. Monaghan to be asked to join the A league would be fair IMO.
The existing clubs are barely getting by so bringing in another club is ridiculous. Apparently the FAI have invited applicants but hopefully these clubs will see how prohibitive it will be.
KOH
Poor Student
28/09/2006, 10:21 AM
100& spot on. Monaghan to be asked to join the A league would be fair IMO.
It would be absolute nonsense. They're managing fine and have no need to step down.
Magicme
28/09/2006, 10:31 AM
No I agree with NY Hoop....we should be pushed out of the First Division for lack of facilities, lack of development of squads, lack of licensing, lack of funding....sure we dont want to be part of the league at all....
Anyways....this thing of having 4 weeks break....undoutably (and rightly so from their perspective) the PFAI will inisist that the players get paid during this enforced break and as a result clubs in the first division who will already be struggling financially will have to dig deep to pay their players with no gate receipts (no matter how small they are they contribute) or bar takings to help pay for this....will the FAI provide the deficit??
NY Hoop
28/09/2006, 10:31 AM
It would be absolute nonsense. They're managing fine and have no need to step down.
See the IMO part? IMO they are going nowhere and there wouldnt be a storm of protest. They wouldnt be folding just stepping down a few divisions. Harsh I know but it is about potential after all and in my book you could go back there in 10 or 20 years and they would still be at the bottom of the first with 50 people watching a monaghan team full of Dubs.
KOH
dublinred
28/09/2006, 1:15 PM
Cant see any changes to the current setup now that DC are gone, bottom team down , 1st and 2nd up and 3rd and second last in a play off. If don't want UCD they should just kick them out rather than relegating them as they would get promoted anyway the following season given the talent at their disposal.
Schumi
28/09/2006, 1:18 PM
bottom team down
Can you see Waterford being relegated if they finish bottom?
€5000 would be the least of the new entrants worries (if they can find clubs willling to sacrifice their souls).
Even an all amateur club would incur costs of not less than €100,000 plus their ground would have to meet minimum UEFA Licencing standards.
Was using that as an example, FAI would have to give a lot more as an incentive for new teams to set up.
DmanDmythDledge
28/09/2006, 2:51 PM
don't want UCD they should just kick them out rather than relegating them as they would get promoted anyway the following season given the talent at their disposal.
I don't see how it would be possible for them to just kick us out of the league.
It would be difficult for us to go straight back up as we would lose many of our best players.
The A league doesnt start till the season after next so Mons are safe from NY Hoops big axe for another year
Can't see any new team coming into the leage at this late stage. I think it will be a 9 team first which as stated will be a balls, with one team having no game every weekend.
9 teams maximum that is, have heard rumours about one or even two Div 1 clubs considering pulling out at the end of the season.
Student Mullet
28/09/2006, 2:55 PM
If the league goes down to 20 teams should it be a ten team premier or an 8 team first next season?
Schumi
28/09/2006, 3:01 PM
An 8 team First would mean only having 28 games in the season, a bit too short for my liking.
Would they not play each other four times and make it a 32 game season?
Student Mullet
28/09/2006, 6:57 PM
Would they not play each other four times and make it a 32 game season?No because you don't play against yourself. 5 games a season would be 35 but stupid.
Oops:o
Sorry, thats embarrasing:o
28 game season it is then
Magicme
29/09/2006, 8:01 AM
Less of the calling people stupid mullet....
Jerry The Saint
29/09/2006, 9:54 AM
I take it we still don't have any guidelines on what clubs need to do before the start of next season to qualify for the Premier. Some indications would be helpful. Something like:
If UCD finish 7th and Galway finish 3rd, UCD stay up - if the gap is smaller than that Galway get promoted unless Dundalk win the First and build a new stand...:eek:
At least then we'd know where we stand and people might actually start caring about the league again.:rolleyes:
bigmac
29/09/2006, 9:59 AM
Less of the calling people stupid mullet....
I think he's calling 5 league games a season against one opposition stupid
Magicme
29/09/2006, 10:14 AM
oh yeah, sorry Mullet!
Dodge
29/09/2006, 11:13 AM
I take it we still don't have any guidelines on what clubs need to do before the start of next season to qualify for the Premier. Some indications would be helpful. Something like:
If UCD finish 7th and Galway finish 3rd, UCD stay up - if the gap is smaller than that Galway get promoted unless Dundalk win the First and build a new stand...:eek:
At least then we'd know where we stand and people might actually start caring about the league again.:rolleyes:
But then we don't know anything about the X factor elements. Agree it'd be handy to have and make things interesting. Agree no one cares about the league in its current state
Schumi
29/09/2006, 12:02 PM
Some indications would be helpful. Something like:
If UCD finish 7th and Galway finish 3rd, UCD stay up - if the gap is smaller than that Galway get promoted unless Dundalk win the First and build a new stand...:eek: I think it's pretty obvious why that won't happen.
pineapple stu
29/09/2006, 12:37 PM
Small piece in the Mirror again... A quick snippet
One league source said 'Normally at this time of the week before a meeting of this nature, we would be lobbying for votes. We don't need to. Everyone wants this to go through.'
And that is because the merger is basically a win-win situation. The FAI will get control over the league and the clubs will get better prize-money, presumable more financial support and certainly more promises.
Whether those are fulfilled or not will only become clear over the passage of time.
God help us, but what did we ever do to deserve such lazy, pandering, pathetic excuses for journalists?
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