Fenlon to Bohs?

[Vitruvian Man]

Strong rumours are being put about among the Bohs in Germany that this is a done deal.

Don't really know what to think of it myself.

What is the general feeling out there - especially any Shels fans want to comment.

[Poor Student]

It was in the Sun on Thursday. It claimed Bohs would finalise their multi-million Euro stadium deal or something.

[Vitruvian Man]

I think the definitive land-deal is going to be announced to the members at the meeting tomorrow night.
Something is definately moving behind the scenes all right.

[Poor Student]

The article was saying you'd be able to attract him on the basis of the new funding. It would be perfect, him being a cheque book manager and all. I don't know if all the rumours you heard on Germany were based on this pretty substance lacking article.

[hoopy]

I think the definitive land-deal is going to be announced to the members at the meeting tomorrow night.
Something is definately moving behind the scenes all right.

Has the Blanch stadium not been knocked in the head yet? I assumed there was no way planning permission would be given? Any alternatives?

[Raheny Red]

It would not suprise me if he did make the short journey up the road, quite worrying really when he still hasn't come out to deny it!

[hoopy]

It would not suprise me if he did make the short journey up the road, quite worrying really when he still hasn't come out to deny it!

Some of your players are fairly open about the fact they'll be moving on at the end of the season. Maybe Nutsy now realises that Shels can't continue to pay the high wages and may not have the quality of player he wants next season. If he does go to Bohs it's purely down to this imop

[MariborKev]

Strong rumours are being put about among the Bohs in Germany that this is a done deal.


Well Gerry Cuffe was on his mobile constantly when we met him in the Mercedes museum on the Friday.

Maybe he was promising Nutsy an SLK?

[DmanDmythDledge]

I think a move from Shels could be likely for Fenlon, even if Bohs weren't looking for a manager. The squad will have to be cut in the post season, maybe sooner if possible/necessary, and Shels will not be able to compete as they have done so this season(IMO). I don't think Fenlon would be able to take Shels further than he has already done so under such circumstances, so a new challenge could interest hin, especially with Bohs been a sleeping giant with plenty if cash and good hardcore support.

[pete]

Fenlon to Drogs would be logical.

[BohsPartisan]

Fenlon wouldn't be top of my list but we could do worse. It could be Roddy! :eek:

[BohsPartisan]

Has the Blanch stadium not been knocked in the head yet? I assumed there was no way planning permission would be given? Any alternatives?

[QUOTE=Irish Times]Dalymount to be sold in €65m deal
Emmet Malone Soccer Correspondent




Bohemians get Dalymount Park offer: A dramatically improved proposal for the purchase of Dalymount Park will be presented to the members of Bohemians at a meeting in Glasnevin this evening with the committee set to unveil a package now said to be worth in the region of over €65 million for the Phibsboro stadium.

The deal, which is with the property developer Liam Carroll, whose group of companies includes the likes of Zoe Developments and Daninger Developments, is made up two elements with the club set to receive around €45 million in cash plus a 10,000-seat stadium on a site at Harristown, close to Dublin Airport.


The terms involved represent a huge improvement on those negotiated with Andorey Developments and approved at a meeting of the membership in May.

At that stage the club was set to receive some €26 million in cash plus a stadium in Castleknock similar in size to the one now envisaged off the M50 motorway.

Under the terms of the deal agreed at that stage, Andorey had 30 days in which to tie up the contract or Bohemians would be allowed to talk to other parties again. As it turned out the matter took longer than expected to conclude and Carroll, who had made a last-minute cash-only bid at the end of April, returned to the table with a new offer.

The price is believed to have risen substantially further during the talks that followed between the various parties until the current terms were finally agreed at some point over the last week or so.

Aside from the greatly increased amount of money on offer the deal is believed to provide a good deal more certainty for Bohemians than its predecessor.

Although Andorey had committed itself to making substantial payments to the club while it sought to have the 5.17-acre site rezoned, the final purchase was contingent upon the local authorities agreeing to the change of use.

There were also planning issues in relation to the proposed site at Diswellstown with a number of public representatives, notably Joan Burton of the Labour Party, making clear their opposition to the scheme and questioning whether the access to the site was of the required quality to allow it to proceed.

It is understood, on the other hand, that Carroll required only that Bohemians prove it owned the ground and that once this was done, which it has, he will take on all further risk relating to rezoning and planning.

Similarly the planning process at Harristown may prove more straightforward than had been anticipated at Diswellstown as there are no homes in the immediate vicinity of the site which is adjacent to a Dublin Bus depot.

However, this very remoteness - the proposed site, which is believed to belong to another property company with which Carroll is associated, Dunloe Ewart, is close to the Ballymun end of the airport and Sillogue public golf course - would appear to be a significant downside of the deal.

The new site itself is, at around seven acres, believed to be similar in size to the one Andorey was to provide although its precise proportions may depend on the car-parking requirements laid down by the planners.

It is envisaged the club could be playing football at its new home within five years but the financial benefits will kick in almost immediately with Bohemians due to receive around €3.2 million as soon as contracts are signed, which could well happen over the coming weeks.

The club would then be paid a similar sum each year for four years or until the new stadium is complete. Carroll has also agreed a substantial separate sponsorship deal with the club said to be worth the best part of €1 million over four years.

In addition Bohemians are on the verge of concluding another, much smaller deal for a parcel of land at the shopping centre end of Dalymount which should bring in roughly €1 million during the coming weeks.

All told, the money should provide Bohemians with an opportunity to take a huge leap forward in terms of its development. When contacted yesterday leading officials at the club declined to comment on the sale of the ground, saying that it was their intention to discuss the matter with the membership first.

When they talked about the original, smaller Andorey deal back in May, however, the club's honorary secretary Gerry Conway and president Gerry Cuffe suggested that the new ground would provide substantial opportunities to generate income from outside the game while the lump sum would allow Bohemians to build a more successful team, build an academy for the development of young players and invest money with a view to ensuring the availability of significant revenues long into the future.

It remains to be seen whether they can pull off such an ambitious balancing act but in a league where the largest turnover is currently only about €3 million (Shelbourne) it would certainly appear to be a remarkable opportunity.

This is all likely to be a major consideration for the club as it weighs up its options in the search for a replacement for former manager Gareth Farrelly who departed in the aftermath of the defeat by Shamrock Rovers in the FAI Cup last week.

While the bookmakers have stopped taking money on Pat Fenlon moving from Shelbourne it remains far from certain he is the only man under consideration and the possibility that the club might make an approach to Brian Kerr has also been floated.

It is apparently hoped an appointment might be made by the weekend. [quote]

[Drumcondra Red]

Well Gerry Cuffe was on his mobile constantly when we met him in the Mercedes museum on the Friday.

Maybe he was promising Nutsy an SLK?

He's already got an E class!!! ;)

[ifk101]

Great deal for Bohs if it comes to fruition. Best of luck to them.

[drummerboy]

Although I would be sad to see Dalymount go, it will secure the future of Bohs in the long term. In fact it will transform them into the Chelsea of the Eircom League. The area, near the airport in not too far away form their original home and it also located between Ballymun and Swords. I'm sure there would also be training facilities on site, which will benefit them even more. Lets just hope that Bohs have some decent legal reps as dealing with any developers can be a tricky business.

As regards the manager's situation, I think they would be mad to choose Fenlon. He is the man who plundered the club a few years ago. They would be far better to go after Kerr or Dolan or both, they could afford them both now.

[BohDiddley]

Gerry Cuffe is in the Star today saying there's no rush to appoint a new manager, and the piece says we might even see out the season with the coaches who beat Drogheda 2-1 with a bunch of kids on Friday.

[Poor Student]

the coaches who beat Drogheda 2-1 with a bunch of kids on Friday.

:confused:

I think Fenlon has showed himself to have a lot of tactical shortcomings over the years. The sheer quality of players he's had at his disposal has enabled him to continue being successful. I think it's right that Bohs would sit down and take their time over this. The season is pretty much a write off for them. No cups, no Setanta or European places and no relegation threat.

[drummerboy]

Well at least its a good news story for the EL league.

[BohDiddley]

:confused:
Have you been away for a bit?

[Poor Student]

Have you been away for a bit?

Yes actually. Was it not 2-2?

[BohsPartisan]

He was refering to the "goal" that was two yards from the line.

[Poor Student]

He was refering to the "goal" that was two yards from the line.

So Bohs have now had a goal that well crossed the line not given and a goal that didn't come close to the line awarded against them?:eek:

Got any footage?

[dcfcsteve]

So Bohs have now had a goal that well crossed the line not given and a goal that didn't come close to the line awarded against them?:eek:

Got any footage?

Madness isn't it !

It's all part of the pro-Dub conspiracy.......! :p

[BohsPartisan]

Of which? The Bray one that crossed the line not given is on the official website. The other one was shown on TG4 so its not on the web. There was a photo posted from Irishfootball online of where the ball was when the "goal" was given.

[micls]

So Bohs have now had a goal that well crossed the line not given and a goal that didn't come close to the line awarded against them?:eek:

Got any footage?

http://rapidshare.de/files/31612096/_Cable-87_20060901_214132.mpg.html

Go to free download

[Poor Student]

http://rapidshare.de/files/31612096/_Cable-87_20060901_214132.mpg.html

Go to free download

Holy fu(k, that's even worse than Devlin's "goal". That is absolutely woeful. Wow........

[TonyD]

Saw the "goal" last night on EL Weeky. In-friggin-credible decision.:eek:

[Sheridan]

Available here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCshUH6wKSc) also, not great quality though.

O'Brien was stationed in front of his near post, the ball deflects off his thigh and rolls forwards. Compulsory physics/geometry lessons for all officials? :confused:

[Poor Student]

Slightly off topic, but here's what Digger may have done to the linesman if he was twice as big:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQy9VXSUHRw&mode=related&search=

[Sniffer]

There is no hope of this Harristown ground getting planning permission. youo must remember the land is right beside Dublin Airport, and the combination of long balls and low flying aircraft would be a recipe for disaster:)

[wws]

Ive played in Dalymount and the pitch has a very deceptive sloping - bang in the middle of that goalmouth - the groundstaff have never been able to rectify this (never noticed it at all til I was on the pitch itself)

its the only possible explanation - but you're into the eye tricking the mind territory (not as far fetched as you may first think)

[WeAreRovers]

Ive played in Dalymount and the pitch has a very deceptive sloping - bang in the middle of that goalmouth - the groundstaff have never been able to rectify this (never noticed it at all til I was on the pitch itself)

its the only possible explanation - but you're into the eye tricking the mind territory (not as far fetched as you may first think)

That's what Oso was trying to say on ELW last night. Personally I'd always go with Scully ahead of Oso - ref should have seen it. No "slope" excuses that kind of incompetence.

I actually feel sorry for Bohs over those two "goals" in Bray and Dalymount. And it just helps to reinforce people's view that the league is a joke.

KOH

[hoops1]

Ive played in Dalymount and the pitch has a very deceptive sloping - bang in the middle of that goalmouth - the groundstaff have never been able to rectify this (never noticed it at all til I was on the pitch itself)

I dont by that for a second the ref was only 18 yards max away
it doesnt slope that much.
Plus it was two yards at least out. Not on or near the line

[wws]

this slope is very deceptive - and *could* have tricked the refs assistant - who made the call and alerted the ref according to all accounts

im not excusing these idiots for one second but its the only plausible explanation

[hoops1]

A more believable explanation is that they are just incompetent
And mars being in line with venus had nothing to do with it